Bad Ending? (Spoilers)

[Simbolic]

I chose to sacrifice Johnny for Valerie, I wake up with Judy. Being she was V's last call. She apparently breaks up with V. While V appears to be a Fixer now and is still dying. Then goes on some last mission. Shooting off into space in their space suit then boom game ends...
Did I just get a messed up ending or are they all pretty much the same?. If playing V? meaning still dying, then on an unexplained final mission. While so called love partner or interest breaks up with you?
Regardless of DLC that is still the core game? TBH Not really want I was expecting for the ending. Think would have just preferred if V just died. Oddly would have just made everything that continues on less depressing. Although maybe I just got a bad ending?

[Izzy Wit Da Uzi]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Simbolic:

Diposting pertama kali oleh PiNEAPPLE CiROC:

Call Panam

After you call judy? that triggers it?

Yep. Call Judy first and then call Panam. The Sun ending left me with a sour feeling too. I don't like how V acts towards the people s/he's close to. That's not how I played as V so it was out of character for my V to be like that. The Star is the only ending in the game that feels even slightly satisfying to me.

[Simbolic]

Diposting pertama kali oleh PiNEAPPLE CiROC:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Simbolic:

After you call judy? that triggers it?

Yep. Call Judy first and then call Panam. The Sun ending left me with a sour feeling too. I don't like how V acts towards the people s/he's close to. That's not how I played as V so it was out of character for my V to be like that. The Star is the only ending in the game that feels even slightly satisfying to me.

Searched around for the good ending for Judy seemed like I had to choose Panam to help with Arasaka? If so I never chose that path just figured would have just led her to her death. Like Johnny mentioned after bringing her up. Or do I just call Panam after calling Judy to trigger it? Cause not sure now if had to also choose Panam to help with Arasaka. In order to actually trigger it? Would try it out myself even have a save relatively close to when I make the choices. I just I gotta take break from the game now. Getting that as my first ending really bothered me. Once I know for positive how to get the good ending might eventually try give it another shot.

[Tokenn]

IMO, all the endings are bummers to some degree. The vision of struggle that ends in a meaningless, unavoidable death is too grim for me. I prefer to think that V still exists with Alt, and could somehow reappear when she again needs a human agent.

[fauxpas]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Darkus56:

Diposting pertama kali oleh fauxpas:

"Choices matter" is the biggest lie told ... the endings are V dies ... V dies ... V dies ... ect.


I don't remember who originally said it but Johnny is the story's protagonist and V is a supporting character in his potential redemption arc.

Still matters more then games like RDR2 where Arthur and John die no matter what you do. Cyberpunk 2077 choices matter even more then say a choice based game like Life is Strange.

And what choices would that be?

Lifepaths don't really matter, 99% of dialogue all leads to the same result, and with a few notable exceptions quests are completely on rails as well.

[TMAC Blade]

The ending the OP mentions is the "sun" ending which I think is maybe the most realistic ending in this situation. The best ending is "don't fear the reaper" and this one requires you to be 100% with johnny silverhand. Sadly if you've screwed up your chances with johnny before the final quest, this ending is nearly impossible to get unless you restart the whole game.

[Simbolic]

Diposting pertama kali oleh TMAC Blade:

The ending the OP mentions is the "sun" ending which I think is maybe the most realistic ending in this situation. The best ending is "don't fear the reaper" and this one requires you to be 100% with johnny silverhand. Sadly if you've screwed up your chances with johnny before the final quest, this ending is nearly impossible to get unless you restart the whole game.

I did everything available on the map. I imagine to be in 100% with johnny is to let him take control to talk to rogue, do all his side missions collecting all his clothes and gun then doing the concert in Vs body. Think I even agreed with him on how to use delamain AI. That choice did seem somewhat influential. Since Johnny made such a big deal out of it.

[Ballistic Drop]

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Hannah Dune:

Your choices matter along the way of the game....there are various endings you can get.

Make certain choices you get certain outcomes.

I was aware of that, was wondering if was better outcome

There are better outcomes based on your own philosophy and gameplay style. If you liked the idea of going out in a glaze of glory and being remembered (for a while) as the best then the ending you got may be best.

For me, the Panam ending played well for me and was my "best" ending.

V is going to die, that was determined very early in the game. The rest of your gameplay is going to determine how he/she is going to go out. It is an ending that is fitting for the dystopian future of the game. A lot of people are upset that there wasn't a "storybook" ending for V; not all stories end happily and that is fine by me. It was well done.

[r.linder]

There's good and bad in every ending, none of them are a perfect sunny day where V gets to ride along into the sunset with Arasaka destroyed.

The Sun is where V finds success as Night City's greatest merc, but sacrifices had to be made to get there, and whoever V sleeps with and calls before their last mission, ends up leaving them because they can't bear to put up with V lying to them about their condition. But it also provides probably the best hope for V's survival as their original self, because of Mr. Blue Eyes.

The Star is where V hopes that leaving NC with the Aldecaldos will help them find some other way to survive their condition, which is unlikely. Very few have the technology or wealth to fix what the Relic has done.

The Devil is purely a bad ending, because Arasaka regains control of itself, and won't be dealt a devastating blow. Relic program will continue, now with proof that it works, with Saburo in Yorinobu's body to prove it.

Temperance is another mixed ending, where both V and Johnny get to survive, but in different ways.
Johnny keeps V's body, and V gets to leave with Alt for the Ghost City in Hong Kong, a city full of rogue AI outside the Blackwall that she had "built" for Kang Tao.

[Vela Darney]

Every ending where V doesn't go up against 'Saka alone (only with Johnny coming with them) is a bad ending because in two of those endings, someone who's reasonably close to V dies and in the third one, they decide to work with Hanako, which is just a HUUUUGE nope.

[r.linder]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Vela Darney:

Every ending where V doesn't go up against 'Saka alone (only with Johnny coming with them) is a bad ending because in two of those endings, someone who's reasonably close to V dies and in the third one, they decide to work with Hanako, which is just a HUUUUGE nope.

It's a shame you can't just change your mind in the middle of the meeting and just mow everyone down, and then moving on to finishing off Yori.

[Hunk]

Diposting pertama kali oleh 尺．し工几句ヨ尺:

The Star is where V hopes that leaving NC with the Aldecaldos will help them find some other way to survive their condition, which is unlikely. Very few have the technology or wealth to fix what the Relic has done.

how can you be so sure of it ? after all mitch mentions they have deep connections. maybe he knows netrunners/ripperdogs/rival corpos from ussr or china maybe ? arasaka(japan) isnt the only major corpo out there. maybe the deep connection mitch has can understand the technology and can reverse engineering it specially if we consider v has literally the blueprints for the chip/relic i mean even though alt says you gonna die 6 months later this is the only ending witch v's remaining days are uncertain maybe they did it with the emotional support of judy/panam and the aldecatos in general its only ending where v ends up with a family and partner depending on your choise (judy in my case) you see trying to overcome seemingly impossible goals (finding a cure for v in this case) with family husband wife rises up the chances a lot for example my cousin had stage 2 cancer with the emotional support of his wife and us relatives he managed to overcome it and did beat the cancer love/friendship has a big impact why the same cant be said to v ? his/her bond with the family the fear of losing judy/panam made v determined to find a way and get rid of the relic once and for all and he/she did it v did get rid of the chip and lives happily after with the aldecaldos of course everything i said is post ending events witch is uncannon but thats how my v ended the game so why cant we assume this ending as a good ending ? sure our goal was to become a legend in night city but instead we got something mutch more wholesome a family to lean and the love of your life by v's side.

[r.linder]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Miyanko:

Diposting pertama kali oleh 尺．し工几句ヨ尺:

The Star is where V hopes that leaving NC with the Aldecaldos will help them find some other way to survive their condition, which is unlikely. Very few have the technology or wealth to fix what the Relic has done.

how can you be so sure of it ? after all mitch mentions they have deep connections. maybe he knows netrunners/ripperdogs/rival corpos from ussr or china maybe ? arasaka(japan) isnt the only major corpo out there. maybe the deep connection mitch has can understand the technology and can reverse engineering it specially if we consider v has literally the blueprints for the chip/relic i mean even though alt says you gonna die 6 months later this is the only ending witch v's remaining days are uncertain maybe they did it with the emotional support of judy/panam and the aldecatos in general its only ending where v ends up with a family and partner depending on your choise (judy in my case) you see trying to overcome seemingly impossible goals (finding a cure for v in this case) with family husband wife rises up the chances a lot for example my cousin had stage 2 cancer with the emotional support of his wife and us relatives he managed to overcome it and did beat the cancer love/friendship has a big impact why the same cant be said to v ? his/her bond with the family the fear of losing judy/panam made v determined to find a way and get rid of the relic once and for all and he/she did it v did get rid of the chip and lives happily after with the aldecaldos of course everything i said is post ending events witch is uncannon but thats how my v ended the game so why cant we assume this ending as a good ending ? sure our goal was to become a legend in night city but instead we got something mutch more wholesome a family to lean and the love of your life by v's side.

That's not what Pondsmith or CDPR aimed for with that ending, or any of the endings, they all have positives and negatives, and are generally 'grey' in tone.

V can survive in the Sun if they work for Mr. Blue Eyes, but they're going to have to work hard and pay up the ass to survive, there is no quiet life for V, if V stops, V will die.

V can remain as an engram in the Ghost City and let Johnny have their body. The Ghost City is a paradise for rogue AI.

V can hope that Arasaka won't ♥♥♥♥ with their engram if they choose to get copied and placed in Mikoshi until they find a suitable vessel that won't reject V's uniquely altered engram that is ultimately a mash of V and Johnny.

V can ride along into the sunset with Panam, but the end result is going to be worse off for V than if they'd just did what they set out to do and became a legend. And let's be honest, the reason why most people pick this ending is because of Panam, it's the simp ending.

[Hunk]

Diposting pertama kali oleh 尺．し工几句ヨ尺:

That's not what Pondsmith or CDPR aimed for with that ending, or any of the endings, they all have positives and negatives, and are generally 'grey' in tone.

V can survive in the Sun if they work for Mr. Blue Eyes, but they're going to have to work hard and pay up the ass to survive, there is no quiet life for V, if V stops, V will die.

V can remain as an engram in the Ghost City and let Johnny have their body. The Ghost City is a paradise for rogue AI.

V can hope that Arasaka won't ♥♥♥♥ with their engram if they choose to get copied and placed in Mikoshi until they find a suitable vessel that won't reject V's uniquely altered engram that is ultimately a mash of V and Johnny.

V can ride along into the sunset with Panam, but the end result is going to be worse off for V than if they'd just did what they set out to do and became a legend. And let's be honest, the reason why most people pick this ending is because of Panam, it's the simp ending.

i get your point but what i mean is the star ending is the only ending where v is free/happy/keeps her/his body. sun ending being basically a tool/slave and being an engram isnt living. your consciousness/soul trapped in a vitural world i get it in the end v dosent truly die but living either as a engram in a vitural world waiting to getting experimented by the very corpo ho is responsible and letting basiclly a ''terrorist'' to take control over your body no thank you sir. i rather try to find my own cure. my point being i get what cdpr try to achive l but there is no harm assuming despite every obstacle thrown at v he/she got over it with the help of his loved ones there is no harm assuming things went well isnt it ? xD

[Ogami]

"The Star" is also the ONLY ending where Misty gives you a positive tarot reading on the final video call and says you have a good future ahead.
Yes, the ending is ambiguous but there IS talk about extending V´s life with tech from outside Night City and where the Aldecados have some connections.
Does that guarantee a happy end? No but there is the possibility, its open ended.

If you played a female V and romanced Judy she also leaves with you and her final video message (which are supposed to be a few months after the game ends) states that she is happy with you and that you are currently in the kitchen making breakfast for them.
That does not sound like V is in immediate danger of dying at that point.

By the explanation you receive about your condition you should be in constant pain and barely able to walk at that point so i take it as a hint that they found some way to help V extend their life.
Maybe just by a few years but V will be free and happy and has broken the cycle of death that every Night City story ends with.

"The Star" is the ending for people who want to hope there is something better out there, that people can be better.
The other endings are for the cynical Cyberpunk fans. Which is fine.

Personally i prefer "The Star" and some hope.

Diposting pertama kali oleh 尺．し工几句ヨ尺:

And let's be honest, the reason why most people pick this ending is because of Panam, it's the simp ending.

Never romanced Panam and always go with that ending.

[EricHVela]

Continuing romances depend which ending you get. Judy doesn't stay if V becomes the top merc in Night City.

Bad endings:
Path of Least Resistance: V and Johnny die.
Failing Don't Fear the Reaper: V and Johnny die.

Ending I really don't like:
The Devil: Johnny most likely dies if the corpos are to be believed, but that also means a slim possibility he's back in a soul prison if the corpos are lying. V's body is still dying. V's can continue to trust the corpos and opt to go to the soul prison after being in a physical laboratory prison for who knows how long with the promise of a new body when the kinks are worked out of the immortality shard. That's a lot of trust in people who dealt with V only because they must but have no reason to be trusted once V no longer has what they need.

Strangely appropriate ending:
Temperance: V disappears with Alt. Johnny literally lives and is deeply and forever changed by it all.

Sweetest ending:
The Star: Johnny disappears with Alt. V is still dying, but the new family is going to try to help find a cure. (Judy will come along if romanced as long as you call her at the right time.)

My canon ending (even though I like the Star better):
The Sun: Johnny disappears with Alt. V is still dying, but one last score (not played) holds the promise of a possible cure for V. V spent many days looking at the pad outside the apartment window and now owns that place in this ending. All the collectibles that V gathered over the course of the game (including pets) are seen with this ending but in no other ending. Hitting the big time was V's original goal with Jackie, and V accomplishes it.

It makes me think that this is CDPRs preferred/intended ending.

The Don't Fear the Reaper variants of Temperance and the Sun lack one particular gut-punch that seems thematic for this game.