Why does Jackie's engram seem like a cheap copy compared to Saburo's? (SPOILERS)

[Flowery]

There's a scene where we can talk to Jackie's engram, but it's more like a heavily dumbed-down AI that feels like a cheap copy of the original person. The "guy" doesn't even know where he is. Like a bazaar-doll that has a few pre-implemented recordings in it and that's it. Feels very sad (as intended to be).

But there is Saburo's engram in a certain ending, which is perfectly in tune with its situation and can pick up the thread exactly where the biological Saburo dropped. I don't mention Alt here because she was heavily altered, but Saburo seems a perfect copy.

So why is this huge difference between engrams?

[Agravain]

Jackie had died long before the engram was made, brain death had already set in by the time Arasaka copy pasted his psyche. Everyone else we see was still alive at the time they had it done.

[Silverbane7]

Also, Saburo's engram was made (probably) via the same system as the 'Secure your Soul' engrams.
Meaning, he probably makes regular 'backups' every time he goes away (like say, outside Japan, or to any possibly dangerous meeting)

[Nar!]

Yeah, Jackie was too far gone before the Arasaka took his body to try and turn him into an engram in order to interrogate him over the heist mission. So unfortunately Jackie can only say the same few lines over and over again.
Cuts pretty deep when you hear him.

[Silverbane7]

Originally posted by Nar!:

Yeah, Jackie was too far gone before the Arasaka took his body to try and turn him into an engram in order to interrogate him over the heist mission. So unfortunately Jackie can only say the same few lines over and over again.
Cuts pretty deep when you hear him.

If you happen to have 'Death Stranding' the game, there was some dlc where a copy of his engram crossed streams into that universe.
The main character there can find him on their journey and help him realise what happened to him. Help him via the chiral network.
Think the last thing he tells them is he now knows how things went down. Knows what he is, but who he is, and where he is going (home to NC)
Just isn't sure how he's getting there, and what he's going to do when he DOES get there.
It's a sweet little crossover.

[Nar!]

Originally posted by Silverbane7:

Originally posted by Nar!:

Yeah, Jackie was too far gone before the Arasaka took his body to try and turn him into an engram in order to interrogate him over the heist mission. So unfortunately Jackie can only say the same few lines over and over again.
Cuts pretty deep when you hear him.

If you happen to have 'Death Stranding' the game, there was some dlc where a copy of his engram crossed streams into that universe.
The main character there can find him on their journey and help him realise what happened to him. Help him via the chiral network.
Think the last thing he tells them is he now knows how things went down. Knows what he is, but who he is, and where he is going (home to NC)
Just isn't sure how he's getting there, and what he's going to do when he DOES get there.
It's a sweet little crossover.

Damn... I wonder of CDPR's writers are looking to bring him back in some data form for the Orion. From what I saw, sounds like he's very aware of his status now and like you said, looking to go back home somehow... Nice.

[Vela Darney]

Originally posted by Silverbane7:

Originally posted by Nar!:

Yeah, Jackie was too far gone before the Arasaka took his body to try and turn him into an engram in order to interrogate him over the heist mission. So unfortunately Jackie can only say the same few lines over and over again.
Cuts pretty deep when you hear him.

If you happen to have 'Death Stranding' the game, there was some dlc where a copy of his engram crossed streams into that universe.
The main character there can find him on their journey and help him realise what happened to him. Help him via the chiral network.
Think the last thing he tells them is he now knows how things went down. Knows what he is, but who he is, and where he is going (home to NC)
Just isn't sure how he's getting there, and what he's going to do when he DOES get there.
It's a sweet little crossover.

Oh my, now I'm imagining Jackie, Johnny and V all hanging out as "digital ghosts" in some kind of cyberspace-afterlife together, sharing stories and having (digital) drinks ...