Is there way to kill adam smasher then do PL/FIA ending?

[FD_Stalker]

I want to combine them into one storyline, since Johnny Silverhand agreed to be erased in exchange of Adam Smasher's death, can I go beyond point of no return, actually end Adam Smasher, then leave to get the NUSA surgery?

[EricHVela]

Once you pass the point of no return, you get one choice on what to do next and that choice is final. If V's fighting AS, you've made that decision and there's no going back.

After starting the point of no return, you cannot complete any other missions.

For the majority of the endings, "One More Gig" returns the player to just prior the point of no return to go and do stuff before trying the endings again or just to pick a different option.

[Silverbane7]

There is a mod (i forget it's name, sorry) that allows for boss spawns in game (it's not the console spawn tho)
It was made so you could both refight bosses, and add respawning boss/mini boss content.
Adam is one of those bosses you could set to go after the player in the outside world.

If you could find which mod that was, you could spawn Smasher, fight and kill him, then go do the NUsa ending.
Downside is, Johnny will not know, nor react, to this. So there would be no difference in his conversations with you during the ending.
Upside, you just (sort of) did what you wanted.

[FD_Stalker]

Originally posted by EricHVela:

Once you pass the point of no return, you get one choice on what to do next and that choice is final. If V's fighting AS, you've made that decision and there's no going back.

After starting the point of no return, you cannot complete any other missions.

For the majority of the endings, "One More Gig" returns the player to just prior the point of no return to go and do stuff before trying the endings again or just to pick a different option.

See this is what I hate about this game, the ending is so scripted that you have to get permission to attack an hostile faction instead of just walking in by no time fighting any sec you want.

[EricHVela]

Originally posted by FD_Stalker:

Originally posted by EricHVela:

Once you pass the point of no return, you get one choice on what to do next and that choice is final. If V's fighting AS, you've made that decision and there's no going back.

After starting the point of no return, you cannot complete any other missions.

For the majority of the endings, "One More Gig" returns the player to just prior the point of no return to go and do stuff before trying the endings again or just to pick a different option.

See this is what I hate about this game, the ending is so scripted that you have to get permission to attack an hostile faction instead of just walking in by no time fighting any sec you want.

The reason for this is that, by just walking into Arasaka any old time and shooting up the place, you're walking into certain death (as defined by (Don't Fear) The Reaper and failing).

If V is fighting AS, it's a few steps to the solution that Johnny and Alt agreed upon, and V's strength is failing to do much else.

It may be on rails, but it makes more sense than being at that point and calling Reed and hoping Reed makes it all the way into the basement to save V while betraying both Johnny and Alt to do so—Alt who controls much of the building at that time and wants Mikoshi just a few steps away but needs V to do the last step.

[FD_Stalker]

Originally posted by EricHVela:

Originally posted by FD_Stalker:

See this is what I hate about this game, the ending is so scripted that you have to get permission to attack an hostile faction instead of just walking in by no time fighting any sec you want.

The reason for this is that, by just walking into Arasaka any old time and shooting up the place, you're walking into certain death (as defined by (Don't Fear) The Reaper and failing).

If V is fighting AS, it's a few steps to the solution that Johnny and Alt agreed upon, and V's strength is failing to do much else.

It may be on rails, but it makes more sense than being at that point and calling Reed and hoping Reed makes it all the way into the basement to save V while betraying both Johnny and Alt to do so—Alt who controls much of the building at that time and wants Mikoshi just a few steps away but needs V to do the last step.

This game should allowed a time limited speed run / TOFU mode like resident evil series where V is really weak on health but gain most freedom to do whatever the fk she wants while progressing the story. Because the way ending scripted is so against player. It's literally dev laughing at player's effort and mocking "whatever you do not matter how good you are in my game you are still a loser"

[Vela Darney]

Yeah, I ended up in a sweet, posh penthouse and owning the Afterlife, taking Rogue's spot as THE fixer of fixers in Night City, and will be going down in history as the merc who not only ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up Arasaka, probably for good, but also pulled off the Crystal Palace Heist. Wow, I'm such a loser ... *sarcasm* I'd really like to know your definition of "loser" ...

[Actalo]

Originally posted by Vela Darney:

Yeah, I ended up in a sweet, posh penthouse and owning the Afterlife, taking Rogue's spot as THE fixer of fixers in Night City, and will be going down in history as the merc who not only ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up Arasaka, probably for good, but also pulled off the Crystal Palace Heist. Wow, I'm such a loser ... *sarcasm* I'd really like to know your definition of "loser" ...

Well, yeah, you did lose if you're playing for survival cause there's no continuity of character if you go to Mikoshi. V dies in Mikoshi, the "V", if you wanna even call it that, which is living in that penthouse and drinking in Rogue's spot in the Afterlife - is an Engram, just like Johnny that we meet - as in not the original.

The reason why the PL ending doesn't let you go after Arasaka is cause narratively speaking, Arasaka is Johnny's and Alt's fight - why does V wanna destroy Arasaka? What's the difference between Arasaka and any other Megacorp? Last time I checked, Militech's the only corp that used nukes on civilians, why doesn't V and Johnny fight them, oh wait, that's right, Johnny helped with the nuking.

V, for the first time after The Heist, has agency in what they wanna do, rather than simply reacting to what Johnny wants - that's why the PL ending is good. Besides, Yorinobu is trying to destroy Arasaka and all V does is kill a bunch of Arasaka employees, blow up Mikoshi servers and let Alt consume all of those engrams - hm, wonder what she'll do with all that, can't possibly be nefarious.