Why i think V is gonna be project orion's protagonist again

[Hamlet1984]

1. The endings: i think the PL cure ending would be the most canon one because it can be a lore reason of why V loses all the op weapons and cyberware, and even if they're gonna choose other endings In arasaka ending you can probably be a engram and sell your soul to arasaka (probably not the ending they gonna do in the next game) we cant do the johnny ending cuz atp whats there to fight for? Johnny is the new V and the old one's dead lol and the ending where V becomes the afterlife owner we could start the game robbing the crystal palace heist and shooting in space, but i think PL ending would be more fit cuz the lore reason
2. Why being a fixer and V being a npc wont be possible (maybe): Because cdpr said theres no canon gender, both gender is canon, if theyre gonna make V an npc and not a easter egg theyre gonna need a canon canon gender for V
3. Mr Blue Eyes and Reed: mr blue eyes is still out there somewhere, While V may not be chromed up anymore they still got experience, and even then Reed can still hook you up for a job with the nusa (Spy thriller cyberpunk 2 real??????)
4. Technicalities: its called a sequel and not a spinoff and sequel means theyre continuing the main character story and the main city and stuff
5. Which Protag is gonna fit?: unless theyre making a new one there is no one thats eligible for main character in cyberpunk, Reed is on a desk job, songbird ehhhh, johnny silverhand we already experience almost all his memories so no point, and morgan blackhand is like what 20 during the 2020's or something? And hes nowhere to be found (maybe a contender) and takemura... he either dies or he is wanted if you save him and do the cure ending
Sure call me copium but thats my theory.... a game theory!!!!

[EricHVela]

In all but the Sun ending, V fades into obscurity. In the Sun ending, V can possibly still fade into obscurity as it's open-ended (if it wasn't a dying fever dream as some productions do with the protagonist).

V will not be an NPC. The variations of V's endings with the claim that V is canon makes it impossible to have any one representation of V. Importing data that's organized for REDengine into a format that's organized for Unreal Engine (the reported engine for Orion) is difficult and prone to a lot of errors. It would be wisest to not try to import data like that.

The Blue Eyes faction is still out there. None of the endings eliminate them. That doesn't mean V is still out there.

Sequels have new protagonists all of the time. Just look at every Elder Scrolls sequel. There's nothing to state with certainty that Cyberpunk won't be an anthology like Dark Pictures. The Cyberpunk setting is what is most likely the returning feature as Tamriel and the DPU for the other two mentioned prior. Alan Wake to Quantum Break to Control to Alan Wake 2... and AW2 had an extra protagonist not played prior. Just because it's a sequel means zip all on who's going to be the protagonist.

V won't fit as a protagonist given how many different ways V's story can end as explained prior. A new unknown protagonist fits the bill perfectly, especially with a new engine and a new USA team with their own style. It'll likely be a new Night City in a future where V was/is nobody.

V's story is finished by whatever means the player chose, but it's finished.

You're welcomed to theory, but there's a bigger picture that you seem to be unwilling to see.

[Hamlet1984]

Originally posted by EricHVela:

In all but the Sun ending, V fades into obscurity. In the Sun ending, V can possibly still fade into obscurity as it's open-ended (if it wasn't a dying fever dream as some productions do with the protagonist).

V will not be an NPC. The variations of V's endings with the claim that V is canon makes it impossible to have any one representation of V. Importing data that's organized for REDengine into a format that's organized for Unreal Engine (the reported engine for Orion) is difficult and prone to a lot of errors. It would be wisest to not try to import data like that.

The Blue Eyes faction is still out there. None of the endings eliminate them. That doesn't mean V is still out there.

Sequels have new protagonists all of the time. Just look at every Elder Scrolls sequel. There's nothing to state with certainty that Cyberpunk won't be an anthology like Dark Pictures. The Cyberpunk setting is what is most likely the returning feature as Tamriel and the DPU for the other two mentioned prior. Alan Wake to Quantum Break to Control to Alan Wake 2... and AW2 had an extra protagonist not played prior. Just because it's a sequel means zip all on who's going to be the protagonist.

V won't fit as a protagonist given how many different ways V's story can end as explained prior. A new unknown protagonist fits the bill perfectly, especially with a new engine and a new USA team with their own style. It'll likely be a new Night City in a future where V was/is nobody.

V's story is finished by whatever means the player chose, but it's finished.

You're welcomed to theory, but there's a bigger picture that you seem to be unwilling to see.

Its gonna be weird if cure is not gonna be the ending with it being in a dlc and its the most fleshed out one, guess we wont know until the trailer giving a look on the map n the protag, welp

[Hamlet1984]

just hope the game can be fun n the new protag is likable n not bugged like 1.0

[Hamlet1984]

Originally posted by Potat al Gaib:

I really want a different timeline to be explored there is so much lore happening between the 1990s and 2040 timeline, we really need a prequel and not a sequel

Rdr2 way, i personally dont cuz it kinda limits cyberware lorewise and maybe gameplay wise (2020 kinda old) and we already experienced it as johnny. Why rdr2 worked mainly cuz the map is different and rdr1 map unlock when we play as john the rdr1 mc

[Tokenn]

IMO bringing V back for a sequel as anything but an Afterlife legend would be far more 'story-stretching' than simply creating a new protagonist. (Although it suddenly occurs to me that V could return as a gender-indeterminate bodyless voice from beyond the Blackwall that interacts with the new protagonist in some way).

Edgerunners was a new Night City story that had new characters we fell in love with, no V character and it was wildly successful. If I had to guess (and it's all purely a guess) I'd say that Orion will follow that pattern.

[Hamlet1984]

Originally posted by Tokenn:

IMO bringing V back for a sequel as anything but an Afterlife legend would be far more 'story-stretching' than simply creating a new protagonist. (Although it suddenly occurs to me that V could return as a gender-indeterminate bodyless voice from beyond the Blackwall that interacts with the new protagonist in some way).

Edgerunners was a new Night City story that had new characters we fell in love with, no V character and it was wildly successful. If I had to guess (and it's all purely a guess) I'd say that Orion will follow that pattern.

They had to nerf bro the cops have a shortage but srsly, ig i wanted a good ending ig maybe V being a legend n disappearing... We saw what happen with V n David, yet we hoped smth would be different copium ig

[Tokenn]

Originally posted by Hamlet1984:

They had to nerf bro the cops have a shortage but srsly, ig i wanted a good ending ig maybe V being a legend n disappearing... We saw what happen with V n David, yet we hoped smth would be different copium ig

In English, please.

[Hamlet1984]

Originally posted by Tokenn:

Originally posted by Hamlet1984:

They had to nerf bro the cops have a shortage but srsly, ig i wanted a good ending ig maybe V being a legend n disappearing... We saw what happen with V n David, yet we hoped smth would be different copium ig

In English, please.

Im sorry i just wanted a better ending for V or smth ig They made V's story up to interpretation

[Silverbane7]

Originally posted by Hamlet1984:

Originally posted by Tokenn:

In English, please.

Im sorry i just wanted a better ending for V or smth ig They made V's story up to interpretation

thats what personal 'head canon' and fanfiction are for, choom.

depending on which V it is (i have 9 different ones, lol) i have different head canon endings for them.
one goes with Alt purely because she wants to kill new things behind the blackwall (and lets Johnny have the body)
one sides with Arasaka at first, planed to offer a 'marrage of convenience' (lol) to Hanako, but then President Myers made him a better offer (tho he would have gone with MiliTech and Meredith Stout, if she had called him back after the NoTell Motell XD)

'it's your game' as Mike said (in the tabletop, tho he was speaking about the various big Corps in the city center, and their buildings)

EricHVela's right tho.
CDPR are done with V.
the most we can hope for is rumour and graffiti and a stack of items behind glass at Afterlife.
maybe being the 'grim f-in Reaper' to a bunch of gangs.

they can't do what they want to do, in the next game, with V i think.

[Hamlet1984]

Originally posted by Silverbane7:

Originally posted by Hamlet1984:

Im sorry i just wanted a better ending for V or smth ig They made V's story up to interpretation

thats what personal 'head canon' and fanfiction are for, choom.

depending on which V it is (i have 9 different ones, lol) i have different head canon endings for them.
one goes with Alt purely because she wants to kill new things behind the blackwall (and lets Johnny have the body)
one sides with Arasaka at first, planed to offer a 'marrage of convenience' (lol) to Hanako, but then President Myers made him a better offer (tho he would have gone with MiliTech and Meredith Stout, if she had called him back after the NoTell Motell XD)

'it's your game' as Mike said (in the tabletop, tho he was speaking about the various big Corps in the city center, and their buildings)

EricHVela's right tho.
CDPR are done with V.
the most we can hope for is rumour and graffiti and a stack of items behind glass at Afterlife.
maybe being the 'grim f-in Reaper' to a bunch of gangs.

they can't do what they want to do, in the next game, with V i think.

I guess PL cure works ig, V can start over, is there any news of orion release date?

[Silverbane7]

One or two Utubers report on things going on with Orion, but other than that, no.

But there are two teams, one working on Witcher stuff, the other working on Cyberpunk stuff.
Both teams have to learn to use the Unreal Engine systems, hopefully they get help from new hires who already know how to do the basics.

Personally, I hope the cyberpunk team are working on environmental side first. Learning to build the world first, copy/reproduce NightCity from the REDEngine version. Adding new areas outside or on top of the current map they already built.
(Would be sweet to be able to know where most things are, roughly, when I see the new map lol)

[Hamlet1984]

Originally posted by Silverbane7:

One or two Utubers report on things going on with Orion, but other than that, no.

But there are two teams, one working on Witcher stuff, the other working on Cyberpunk stuff.
Both teams have to learn to use the Unreal Engine systems, hopefully they get help from new hires who already know how to do the basics.

Personally, I hope the cyberpunk team are working on environmental side first. Learning to build the world first, copy/reproduce NightCity from the REDEngine version. Adding new areas outside or on top of the current map they already built.
(Would be sweet to be able to know where most things are, roughly, when I see the new map lol)

Welp suppose i can wait

[Silverbane7]

you could mod the game (if you have not already)
could mod it MORE if you already modded (lol)

try the tabletop game. you already have (or can redownload since 2.0+) the 2020 sourcebook as a .pdf (its part of the free items in the dlc page. you get artwork, the original ost and things like wallpapers ect with it.)

plus, R Talsorian Inc (the original makers of the tabletop) has a website where you can grab free tabletop goodies.
https://rtalsoriangames.com/downloadable-content/

there is Witcher stuff below the CyberpunkRED stuff, too.
quickstart rules, free sourcebook add ons (for 'Danger Gal dossier', 'Black Chrome' and 'Tales of the Red' books.)
lots of additional stuff.
the Edgerunners Sourcebook is coming sometime in June/July (depending on your country) which will fill in gaps between the years 2045 and 2076. Even comes with dice from what I've read.

and there are a few other Cyberpunk style games you could try.
Shadowrun (cyberpunk with magic) has a 3 game bundle, tho its turn based like Baldurs Gate 3.
Cloudpunk (pixelart delivery driver game) or the old Deus Ex games if you can get them to run.
Steam has a Cyberpunk genre search i think now (i've had that in sales as a searchable section) so there is plenty of stuff you could try to keep you going maybe.

[Hamlet1984]

Originally posted by Silverbane7:

you could mod the game (if you have not already)
could mod it MORE if you already modded (lol)

try the tabletop game. you already have (or can redownload since 2.0+) the 2020 sourcebook as a .pdf (its part of the free items in the dlc page. you get artwork, the original ost and things like wallpapers ect with it.)

plus, R Talsorian Inc (the original makers of the tabletop) has a website where you can grab free tabletop goodies.
https://rtalsoriangames.com/downloadable-content/

there is Witcher stuff below the CyberpunkRED stuff, too.
quickstart rules, free sourcebook add ons (for 'Danger Gal dossier', 'Black Chrome' and 'Tales of the Red' books.)
lots of additional stuff.
the Edgerunners Sourcebook is coming sometime in June/July (depending on your country) which will fill in gaps between the years 2045 and 2076. Even comes with dice from what I've read.

and there are a few other Cyberpunk style games you could try.
Shadowrun (cyberpunk with magic) has a 3 game bundle, tho its turn based like Baldurs Gate 3.
Cloudpunk (pixelart delivery driver game) or the old Deus Ex games if you can get them to run.
Steam has a Cyberpunk genre search i think now (i've had that in sales as a searchable section) so there is plenty of stuff you could try to keep you going maybe.

I see, thing about modding is that this is family shared but funny enough i can download bonus content but not redmod And both require base game or smth (remember, family shared n im not the sharer) which is weird, say if i go to the family sharer account n download redmod there would it show up on my library n i can use it?

[Silverbane7]

don't know about family shared stuff tbh.
you don't need REDMod though, to mod. I don't use it, since most of the mods i use are 'legacy' style mods.
(they require CET, Cyber Engine Tweeks. and a few other mods.)
there are some mods that do require REDMod, but many of those also have legacy versions you can use instead (with a few notable exceptions)

there are mods that are just quality of life, ones that overhaul the whole game, or just parts of it.
i personally use mostly clothing mods, a few mods that change up gameplay (i'm still using the old Metro mod, as i prefer that train experience lol)
guess it all depends on what kind of gameplay you like.