Canon endings for the sequel discussion (SPOILER)

[Skelevra]

Just finished the game for the fourth time , 130 hours added from this run with the main game and PL played for the first time.

Best game I ever played.

That said..

I think the canon ending for Phantom Liberty is V helping So Mi reaching the moon and trying to save her life. Primarly for the Mr Blue Eyes discourse, heavily involved on that gig and 100 % sure one of the main character (or the people behind him given that the man is just a "proxy" IMHO) of the sequel.

And for the main game I think:
or the star ending , the most "hopeful" conclusion for V trying to find a cure around the NUSA and the entire world with the Aldecaldos on his side and the best character of the game Miss Panam Palmer (and possibly be contacted by an alive and well Songbird ready to return the favor to save V's life for real this time);

or the sun ending, again because of Mr Blue Eyes and the gig at the Crystal Palace, a perfect start mission for the intro of cyberpunk 2 and maybe get a close contact with (guess guess..) Songbird with a hope for a definitive cure.

I think these scenarios makes the most sense, even if I LOVED the devil ending, because if you think about that: your consciousness uploaded on Mikoshi? Perfect escamotage for creating a new player for Cyberpunk 2 =D

Anyway , thougths? What do you think it could be better for the lore?

[EricHVela]

Whatever happens, V's influence will be strictly limited to guarantees and everything else will fade away. It's less what happens in 2077 but what happens between the events of 2077 and the next Cyberpunk.

The only guarantees: V and Jackie save a woman and witness Saburo's death. Jackie, T, and DeShawn die. V slots a shard of Johnny. V begins to die.

Beyond V: Rhyne dies and rumors persist among the public as to what happened. (While V is able to find out the truth, it doesn't go anywhere beyond V.) A serial killer was caught but ended up in a coma. Holt loses to Peralez. The fixers were present during 2077. The Aldecaldos were present some time during 2077. Viktor and Misty were present during 2077.

The lead up to those events and everything after can go in all different ways.

As for those guarantees, how much impact do they make to Night City? Little if any. Night City won't remember.

Something after 2077 that will wipe all those variations away is most likely to happen. Players get to keep their own canon, but the next CP won't need to confirm or deny any of it.

V won't be a legend. Rumor? Maybe. Legend? Not at all.

Does it feel like a letdown after doing all that stuff to be legendary only to be forgotten? Yes, but that's how games with so many variables typically work. It all gets funneled down to nothing that was done mattered. (Mass Effect 3 original released ending, anyone?)

It also fits the morbid tone of "no happy endings". Even the happy endings are forgotten.

[Vela Darney]

Nah, mate, no way Night City will forget the legend who rose from nothing, took over the Afterlife from the legendary Rogue Amendiares and did a heist (either successfully or dying while trying) on the Crystal Palace. That's not the kind of stuff you'd forget after only a couple of years, or maybe even decades.

[Skelevra]

Originally posted by Vela Darney:

Nah, mate, no way Night City will forget the legend who rose from nothing, took over the Afterlife from the legendary Rogue Amendiares and did a heist (either successfully or dying while trying) on the Crystal Palace. That's not the kind of stuff you'd forget after only a couple of years, or maybe even decades.

I agree.
Maybe he will V or his consciousness the protagonist of the sequel, maybe not, but I'm sure he will remember as a legend in any case on the streets of night city , primarly because is what Jackie want it during the first missions of the game

[Skelevra]

Originally posted by chris:

I think CDPR does a generally good job of turning stories into games, but I don't know if any of their stories are original. I've never played the Cyberpunk tabletop, so I don't know how closely the 2077 story follows, but I do know it lifts extensively from "Neuromancer".

It's really anybody's guess, but I'd look to William Gibson's other, related works (Count Zero Interrupt, Mona Lisa Overdrive, Virtual Light, and Idoru) for possible clues. Case's story continues (The V of Neuromancer), as does Night City (the Night City of Neuromancer), but Case isn't really the central figure going forward.

I like your ideas for the most likely endings to carry the story forward, but iirc it was more Molly (Neuromancer's prototype of the Moxes) that is the real binding character for transitioning between the Sprawl stories in general. So I also wouldn't be surprised to find there is no canon ending for V, just for Judy or Panam, and that V winds up as a construct in a back alley for our next hero to find.

So maybe the devil ending.. again, the perfect escamotage for creating a new chaeacter from 0 but with the V consciousness..

but also we need to know when the sequel will be set, maybe an year later? maybe 10? 25?
We don't know.. but I want to assume it will be very close to 2077 because all the ending of this game has left a lot of questions open. There isn't a definitive ending that solve everything.

Dear god I cannot really wait to know more about the sequel!!

[Skelevra]

maybe we need to wait "only" 5 or 6 years this time for the sequel..