Cyberpunk 2077

Cyberpunk 2077

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Sofia Oct 17, 2023 @ 6:38pm
Still no happy ending
Phantom liberty is a giant middle finger. After the first release of the game, everyone hated the endings, to the point the creator of Cyberpunk went on record saying that the thought that "Cyberpunk can't have a happy ending" is entirely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and an invention of CDPR.

Phantom liberty offers nothing of value as far as endings go. Just variations of "Get ♥♥♥♥♥♥, go to the base main story and die" and "Hey, you're cured, and everyone you know and love is either dead or hates your guts, enjoy corpo Vic."

0/10, uninstalling and never playing this ♥♥♥♥ again.
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Dorfo Oct 17, 2023 @ 6:42pm 
song bird best ending ♥♥♥♥ militech
Sofia Oct 17, 2023 @ 6:47pm 
Originally posted by Dorfo:
song bird best ending ♥♥♥♥ militech
The ending where your so called friend tells you she betrayed you all along and you send her to the moon where you never hear from her again, then go on to the base game endings which all end in you dead or worse?

I guess technically yes, that would still qualify as the best available ending. Still a bad ending.
Last edited by Sofia; Oct 17, 2023 @ 6:51pm
Coldflame Oct 17, 2023 @ 10:11pm 
stories can cover a wider spectrum of the human experience than just success and happiness
EricHVela Oct 18, 2023 @ 5:46am 
Did everyone hate the endings? I seem to remember a small vocal group unhappy with the endings (as it always seems to be) while defended by and large for the current ones.

Weird, though. There seems to be a majority of people who think the Star ending is the happy ending. (Not merely, simply the happiest of the rest but a good ole' happy ending.) I can see how people think that. It checks all the boxes. Protagonist lives and leaves the oppressive Night City with a new family and with new freedom and with definite hope for the future (and Misty even states as much during the credits). The Bullet to the brain (the pendant that represents Johnny in a way) is gone for good, unlike other endings where either V's gone for good or V still bears the weight of the Bullet, a reminder of Johnny.

I'm not in favor of that ending, though, but it's perfectly valid. Many times, CP'77 sets up a scenario and V finds a different way. I find the Star to be incongruent with the "feel" of CP'77, but given how stuff during the game ends in unexpected ways, it's still appropriate for it to happen... a new dream that V didn't even consider at the start of the story.

My preference is to take a different option. V achieves the dream that began the story, stays in Night City as the big person on campus (with Rogue alive, too... not easily done). The evidence of V's influence upon Night City is listed as mementos scattered around the apartment and a couple in Afterlife. There's still hope, but it comes with a promise of glory from Misty in the credits, too. (If the Aldecaldos' missions were completed, there's the offer during the credits to go with the Aldecaldos If V ever feels like doing that... and none of the Aldecaldos die for V.)

A good ending, I think, as well. (I really like knowing for certain that Nibbles will be okay if V leaves.)

I'm curious what you wanted for a happy ending. Does V get cured and become the king of the Aldecaldos who rule the Afterlife and does Johnny get a new body and start a new life somewhere else and does everyone live and does Hanako take over Arasaka to guide the company into a new and bright future and Night City become a paradise and beacon of hope and prosperity for the whole world?

What would check the boxes for a happy ending that works with Night City?
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Sofia Oct 18, 2023 @ 6:16am 
Originally posted by EricHVela:
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You prefer Don't fear the reaper. I would say that one probably makes the most sense from the perspective of V, sure, but it's still a death sentence. After all the ♥♥♥♥ V has been through, they deserve a happily ever after.

From a broad viewpoint ,the game only has two real endings, with just different variations on the two. Every scenario either ends with A: A dead V OR B: A leaving V who is hated by everyone who mattered to them, dumped on the street with no means of supporting themselves or really even any form of support system what so ever.

And the comment "happy ending that works with Night City" is rather loaded from my perspective. It seems based once again on the idea of "Ugh, no happy endings in cyberpunk" which again, isn't a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing until CDPR decided it was.

I want a happy ending. Just one. I'm not even asking for an ending where everyone survives. There needs to be loss for it to have meaning, i understand that, no one wants to play the game about the time we all went to the park and had a nice time with nothing bad happening. But every possible ending for this game is bleak and depressing. It's bad writing. It's bad writing based on the idea V is too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid to say " Hey, I'm going for brain surgery, may be gone for a while, maybe don't all just assume I'm dead." Yes, they had to be vague because of the NDA and or being an FIA agent. But there is a middle ground between "Quick milk run, be back in two weeks" and "I'm going to have brain surgery at a secret military installation because I saved the president from her own stupidity."
Blind Reverend Oct 18, 2023 @ 7:21am 
What did you expect? You play as a criminal, who exploited his body to the maximum and was doomed from the beginning. You play as a tool for your fixers and other big players. This is not really the foundation for a happy life. Runner go down with a bang to become legends or just survive. That is what the game tells you all the time.

Maybe they should have added the option for V. to become a fixer like Rogue, for a different ending, but it is obvious that Project Red wants V to go down, so his/her story is final and emotional.
NuevTurn Oct 18, 2023 @ 7:57am 
Originally posted by Blind Reverend:
What did you expect? You play as a criminal, who exploited his body to the maximum and was doomed from the beginning. You play as a tool for your fixers and other big players. This is not really the foundation for a happy life. Runner go down with a bang to become legends or just survive. That is what the game tells you all the time.

Maybe they should have added the option for V. to become a fixer like Rogue, for a different ending, but it is obvious that Project Red wants V to go down, so his/her story is final and emotional.
Thankz for that!
Ēarendel Oct 18, 2023 @ 8:59am 
V dies in all of the endings except phantom liberty.
Sofia Oct 18, 2023 @ 9:01am 
Originally posted by Ēarendel:
V dies in all of the endings except phantom liberty.

Where the endings are arguably worse than death because everyone you know and love hates you.
Ēarendel Oct 18, 2023 @ 9:03am 
Originally posted by Sofia:
Originally posted by Ēarendel:
V dies in all of the endings except phantom liberty.

Where the endings are arguably worse than death because everyone you know and love hates you.

It's not that bad. You gotta remember the circumstances under which you met those people, they aren't really your friends. They weren't in it for the good time, they were in it because you were useful. The only real friends V has are Misty, Vic and Jackie. And the two that live are still your friends at the end of the game, V chooses a normal safe life to "fade away" as the saying goes. And if one's imagination permits it, I would like to assume he took up that government job that Reed offered him in the end.
Sofia Oct 18, 2023 @ 9:14am 
Originally posted by Ēarendel:
Originally posted by Sofia:

Where the endings are arguably worse than death because everyone you know and love hates you.

It's not that bad. You gotta remember the circumstances under which you met those people, they aren't really your friends. They weren't in it for the good time, they were in it because you were useful. The only real friends V has are Misty, Vic and Jackie. And the two that live are still your friends at the end of the game, V chooses a normal safe life to "fade away" as the saying goes. And if one's imagination permits it, I would like to assume he took up that government job that Reed offered him in the end.

Being a secretary. My street kid V, who has fought her entire life on the streets, from start to finish. Even before she had chrome, she was a bad ass. V doesn't get chipped until six months into the prologue with anything other than basic chrome like the personal link.

And yet phantom liberty gives us no chrome V again, and a nobody street thug beats her ass and she crumples in a single hit.

So you go ahead and enjoy your head canon where V goes on to be Reed's secretary (something even he alludes to when you question what use you would be). As far as I'm concerned my V disappeared into that crowd and immediately to a gun store to take Johnny's advice and eat some iron.
Vault Traveler Oct 18, 2023 @ 9:30am 
Originally posted by Sofia:
Originally posted by Ēarendel:

It's not that bad. You gotta remember the circumstances under which you met those people, they aren't really your friends. They weren't in it for the good time, they were in it because you were useful. The only real friends V has are Misty, Vic and Jackie. And the two that live are still your friends at the end of the game, V chooses a normal safe life to "fade away" as the saying goes. And if one's imagination permits it, I would like to assume he took up that government job that Reed offered him in the end.

Being a secretary. My street kid V, who has fought her entire life on the streets, from start to finish. Even before she had chrome, she was a bad ass. V doesn't get chipped until six months into the prologue with anything other than basic chrome like the personal link.

And yet phantom liberty gives us no chrome V again, and a nobody street thug beats her ass and she crumples in a single hit.

So you go ahead and enjoy your head canon where V goes on to be Reed's secretary (something even he alludes to when you question what use you would be). As far as I'm concerned my V disappeared into that crowd and immediately to a gun store to take Johnny's advice and eat some iron.

V also could become a fixer (V said it themselves), ngl that would be pretty dope.
Ēarendel Oct 18, 2023 @ 9:32am 
Originally posted by Sofia:
Originally posted by Ēarendel:

It's not that bad. You gotta remember the circumstances under which you met those people, they aren't really your friends. They weren't in it for the good time, they were in it because you were useful. The only real friends V has are Misty, Vic and Jackie. And the two that live are still your friends at the end of the game, V chooses a normal safe life to "fade away" as the saying goes. And if one's imagination permits it, I would like to assume he took up that government job that Reed offered him in the end.

Being a secretary. My street kid V, who has fought her entire life on the streets, from start to finish. Even before she had chrome, she was a bad ass. V doesn't get chipped until six months into the prologue with anything other than basic chrome like the personal link.

And yet phantom liberty gives us no chrome V again, and a nobody street thug beats her ass and she crumples in a single hit.

So you go ahead and enjoy your head canon where V goes on to be Reed's secretary (something even he alludes to when you question what use you would be). As far as I'm concerned my V disappeared into that crowd and immediately to a gun store to take Johnny's advice and eat some iron.

I mean, if you notice the theme of the game, the very first question the player is asked at the start of the game is.

1. Would you live in peace as Mr.nobody
2. Go down in a blaze of glory

If 2 is really what you wanted, then you got your happy ending with most of the vanilla endings, V goes down in a blaze of glory as a legend of night city. If what your V wanted was 1 and survival then they got it in abundance too either through the devil ending or phantom liberty, there is no middle of the road. You either burn out or fade away.
Sofia Oct 18, 2023 @ 9:54am 
Originally posted by Ēarendel:
Originally posted by Sofia:

Being a secretary. My street kid V, who has fought her entire life on the streets, from start to finish. Even before she had chrome, she was a bad ass. V doesn't get chipped until six months into the prologue with anything other than basic chrome like the personal link.

And yet phantom liberty gives us no chrome V again, and a nobody street thug beats her ass and she crumples in a single hit.

So you go ahead and enjoy your head canon where V goes on to be Reed's secretary (something even he alludes to when you question what use you would be). As far as I'm concerned my V disappeared into that crowd and immediately to a gun store to take Johnny's advice and eat some iron.

I mean, if you notice the theme of the game, the very first question the player is asked at the start of the game is.

1. Would you live in peace as Mr.nobody
2. Go down in a blaze of glory

If 2 is really what you wanted, then you got your happy ending with most of the vanilla endings, V goes down in a blaze of glory as a legend of night city. If what your V wanted was 1 and survival then they got it in abundance too either through the devil ending or phantom liberty, there is no middle of the road. You either burn out or fade away.


If you can't see the difference between a quiet life as a nobody, and losing everyone you care about and being abandoned, there is no hope for you.

The ONLY person you have at the end of the game is arguably Vik, who is a corpo sell out, is completely miserable, and is b eing transferred to Reno. Woooooo.

I would have been fine with a fade away ending. I even would have been fine with the ending where V loses th e ability to use Chrome. That is totally fine. But making us call everyone we know, just to have them all explain why they hate us, was unnecessary and completely ruined the game.
Ēarendel Oct 18, 2023 @ 10:07am 
Originally posted by Sofia:
Originally posted by Ēarendel:

I mean, if you notice the theme of the game, the very first question the player is asked at the start of the game is.

1. Would you live in peace as Mr.nobody
2. Go down in a blaze of glory

If 2 is really what you wanted, then you got your happy ending with most of the vanilla endings, V goes down in a blaze of glory as a legend of night city. If what your V wanted was 1 and survival then they got it in abundance too either through the devil ending or phantom liberty, there is no middle of the road. You either burn out or fade away.


If you can't see the difference between a quiet life as a nobody, and losing everyone you care about and being abandoned, there is no hope for you.

The ONLY person you have at the end of the game is arguably Vik, who is a corpo sell out, is completely miserable, and is b eing transferred to Reno. Woooooo.

I would have been fine with a fade away ending. I even would have been fine with the ending where V loses th e ability to use Chrome. That is totally fine. But making us call everyone we know, just to have them all explain why they hate us, was unnecessary and completely ruined the game.

Again, none of those people are your true friends and the writers make it clear. It was a friendship based on benefit. Once V stops being useful, they are gone. The DLC ending still leaves your OG friends intact.

Not sure why you think Vik is a sellout lol, who did he sell out? How is he miserable? I think you're getting the "street kid" thing get over your head, nobody in night city wants to be street poor.
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