The tower is the worst written ending

[UnlivingEnd]

I like the idea of the tower ending, it was just executed horribly due to the flaws in the logic of the story. If V is unable to handle any cyberware beyond a personal link, he would be a blind quadriplegic because both his arms, legs, and eyes were replaced with implants. Second, No matter how much money you have before you go, you are homeless and broke when you get back. Where did all the money go?

[titansp]

Would go with
johnnys construct made such a impact, rooting in to V

Alot Tolerance to cyberware was likely lended by Johnny strenght at some point

They were going for ripping a soul out of the body losing a peice of you. In a digital form

As for Eddie's and assests
Since there's corruption and negligence all around
NUSA may confiscated it or some entity in night city stole/confiscated seeing V as a soft target During the 2 years
Its bad and dumb I know



Read somewhere all new and Combat cyberwear was affected
so could V use ancient outdated cyberware and live in junkyards and trash heaps to survive?

I yet to play the game, hopeing soon
Only watched edge runners

[Riley]

The ending never says V's can't handle 'Cyberware' in general but specifically 'Combat' implants if I remember right. I'm assuming since they're far more intensive and straining on the body/processor which regulates them. It is unclear if V is just temporarily weaker in general from being in a coma or if he/she has a lack of strength from the operation as a whole.

Also as far as being chromed head to toe with arm and leg replacements, that's entirely on the player as you can beat the game canonically with just the base implants such as Kiroshi's and the ballistic grip which you receive from Viktor. So I think it's just taking that into account rather than commenting on how much chrome you specifically had, which I agree is rather generalised.

Not sure where V having no money comes from though unless I missed something, you must've had some cash to purchase the booze for Viktor and rent Delamain unless the NUSA fitted the bill. Like implants the game uses a baseline when it comes to certain things you own, such as V renting an apartment in megabuilding 10. It's no surprise he would've been evicted after 2 years MIA.

Regardless of the minor details, I don't think it's the worst ending at all. While it seems bleak in the moment as it should for V realising his/her whole world has changed overnight essentially. No one knows what the future holds since it's unwritten, it's offer's V the most potential in terms of a future. Ultimately though it's supposed to be bitter sweat, the one ending where you truly live comes at a cost to doing what you loved and enjoyed, that's the meaning behind the sacrifice.

[ShadowSplit]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Forblaze:

I'm not really interested in arguing over future tech works, but the ending is the best ending just from a results perspective. Before Phantom Liberty, the best ending was committing suicide.

The Arasaka ending involves helping Arasaka, and every other ending involves helping a hyper-lethal, malevolent AI with unknown intentions. Regardless of how likely it is for all of your friends to abandon you or the specifics of how the cyberware works, you're still alive and didn't do either of the things involved in the other endings.

Yeah, from a results perspective. And I like this ending because I wanted this ending. Because I like my V and wish all the best.
My point being is in "there are no happy endings in Night City" which seems to be prevalent theme in the game, even if CDPR is forcing it. Making a main character sidelined when that same main character is a highly capable individual even without augments is just poor writting. I know CDPR have issues with writting stories, which is noticable in some quests in Witcher series, but they could seriously up the effort a bit.

[kome360]

Let me put it this way:
You discover through the story of Phantom Liberty that V's body isn't a temple.
It's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tower.
As was Songbird's. She lost herself, every last moral fiber, to trusting her cyber and her powers over her friends and her ideals; she still has a conscience but she cannot act upon it at all. She's utterly consumed by her own power and it has turned her into some kind of mad demon lord, destroying herself as she throws the foes around her into Hell. Even if some of it is the AI pushing her towards selfishness and hatred, the end point is that Songbird's own twisted tower of a body and mind has turned her into her own Hell. And V is on the same path. How many gangoons have we slaughtered? How many did we kill solely for some inconsequential experience points, or because we wanted weapons that we were going to scrap for trivial parts, or because it was fun?
The kicker was that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mask. A quickslot means of hiding ourselves from the consequences of murdering innocent people. While we play this fun little power fantasy, we refuse to remember how mortal humans truly are.
And now the tower has fallen.

[kome360]

I think you can chalk this up to the fact that they used and killed an experimental AI to treat V. Really, we have no idea what kinds of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ surgical flairs the AI had to come up with to treat V - and that includes the biochip's cancer. I think the AI had to slow V's neural regeneration to slow the onset of cancer to 'beyond natural lifespan'.

[UnlivingEnd]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Riley:

The ending never says V's can't handle 'Cyberware' in general but specifically 'Combat' implants if I remember right. I'm assuming since they're far more intensive and straining on the body/processor which regulates them. It is unclear if V is just temporarily weaker in general from being in a coma or if he/she has a lack of strength from the operation as a whole.

Also as far as being chromed head to toe with arm and leg replacements, that's entirely on the player as you can beat the game canonically with just the base implants such as Kiroshi's and the ballistic grip which you receive from Viktor. So I think it's just taking that into account rather than commenting on how much chrome you specifically had, which I agree is rather generalised.

Not sure where V having no money comes from though unless I missed something, you must've had some cash to purchase the booze for Viktor and rent Delamain unless the NUSA fitted the bill. Like implants the game uses a baseline when it comes to certain things you own, such as V renting an apartment in megabuilding 10. It's no surprise he would've been evicted after 2 years MIA.

Regardless of the minor details, I don't think it's the worst ending at all. While it seems bleak in the moment as it should for V realising his/her whole world has changed overnight essentially. No one knows what the future holds since it's unwritten, it's offer's V the most potential in terms of a future. Ultimately though it's supposed to be bitter sweat, the one ending where you truly live comes at a cost to doing what you loved and enjoyed, that's the meaning behind the sacrifice.

Actually V himself says he can’t even use basic muscle implants, which means there is no way in hell he could use whole limb implants.

[Riley]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von UnlivingEnd:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Riley:

The ending never says V's can't handle 'Cyberware' in general but specifically 'Combat' implants if I remember right. I'm assuming since they're far more intensive and straining on the body/processor which regulates them. It is unclear if V is just temporarily weaker in general from being in a coma or if he/she has a lack of strength from the operation as a whole.

Also as far as being chromed head to toe with arm and leg replacements, that's entirely on the player as you can beat the game canonically with just the base implants such as Kiroshi's and the ballistic grip which you receive from Viktor. So I think it's just taking that into account rather than commenting on how much chrome you specifically had, which I agree is rather generalised.

Not sure where V having no money comes from though unless I missed something, you must've had some cash to purchase the booze for Viktor and rent Delamain unless the NUSA fitted the bill. Like implants the game uses a baseline when it comes to certain things you own, such as V renting an apartment in megabuilding 10. It's no surprise he would've been evicted after 2 years MIA.

Regardless of the minor details, I don't think it's the worst ending at all. While it seems bleak in the moment as it should for V realising his/her whole world has changed overnight essentially. No one knows what the future holds since it's unwritten, it's offer's V the most potential in terms of a future. Ultimately though it's supposed to be bitter sweat, the one ending where you truly live comes at a cost to doing what you loved and enjoyed, that's the meaning behind the sacrifice.

Actually V himself says he can’t even use basic muscle implants, which means there is no way in hell he could use whole limb implants.

V flippantly saying he can't use implants anymore doesn't mean anything, what V considers a basic implant could greatly differ from everyone else's definition. Since we're specifically told he can't use combat implants by Reed, I'll listen to the NUSA Agent informed by the doctors who worked on him than V's off hand comment on the matter. Seems like you're ignoring that extremely important aspect.

Also in the modern, real world people can use prosthetic implants, I'm sure come 2077 it's possible for amputees to use ones that function similar if not better than the ones we have now. Or as someone else said, perhaps they can replace heavy Cyberware with artificial muscles or something else which replicates them in a more natural way. The game never takes that into account, if you get Gorilla arms then remove them, your arms go back to looking normal again.

[Forblaze]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ElevenEleven:

Best ending was secret ending, going alone to fight arasaka tower. IMO

The secret ending is the same as the panam and rogue ending. You're helping Alt, an extremely dangerous AI without really knowing what her intentions are.