Cyberpunk 2077

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Lynma Jul 5, 2022 @ 11:22pm
Worst Character in the story ? [Spoilers]
I was just thinking about the characters we can find in the game, and was wondering which one I would consider the worst. (Not the worst written, but the worst kind of human being)

Strangely enough, the conclusion was not at all the one I was expecting too.

At first, obviously, I was thinking about Dexter, Yorinobu or even Placide, but when you think about it, they all have a "reason" behind their acts. Doesn't mean it's an excuse, or a good reason, but at least, they have a reason.

Dexter shot you, but I can seriously see where's he's coming from, and during the game, you shoot people for less than that. You were hired to do a job, an you failed completely. Yes, it wasn't your fault, but that doesn't change the fact that you brought a whole lot of troubles to him.

Yorinobu kills his father, but he's really at a bad spot. He tried a powerplay with the chip, and failed totally, now he's going to lose everything unless he get rid of him. Evil, yeah, but then again, he has a "reason", fear mostly..

Placide, Brigitte and the Voodoo gang use you like a tool, don't care about you, but then again, you're an outsider, and they take care of their own first.

No.

For me, the worst character of the game is Evelyn Parker.

This girl is a walking disaster, a serial betrayer.

She gets close to Yorinobu, but betrays him by spying for the Voodoo boys. She gets recruited by the voodoo to do a recording, but betrays them and organize the heist. She then recruits Dexter to do the heist and here again, suprise, she try to betray him and to make a deal with you behind his back.

Plus, her reason to try to convince you are stupid. Making it big without a fixer. Because we would like people to know that it was us behind Arasaka's heist, obviously, that the kind of things you brag around. No, we wouldn't be able to tell anybody about the heist, the only thing people would know about us is that we made a deal with our fixer and went behind his back. And for what ? 50% instead of 30% (the usual rate at the start) ?

And her only motivation is greed. She's not in danger, she's not protecting her own, she just wants more.

But the worst part about Evelyn is that she even betrays Judy, by bringing people implicated in the heist at her place, not even telling her anything of what's going on, and at the end, even by doing what she does.

Yeah. For me, Evelyn is the worst.
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fauxpas Jul 5, 2022 @ 11:29pm 
Not a bad take.
egg fu Jul 5, 2022 @ 11:57pm 
i mean the obvious choice would be saburo and maybe alt for her role in developing the soulkiller program.

just like what johnny said, "corps have long controlled our lives, taken lots... now they're after our souls!" also correct me if im wrong but didn't yorinobu try to sabotage arasaka from the inside, wasn't that his plan all along? maybe its more of a theory than a fact.

but yeah evelyn is pretty disgusting and backstabby. everything about her is shady.
Bogmore Jul 6, 2022 @ 6:11am 
I thought originally you meant worst as in the worst written or the worst fleshed out.

Most characters have a back story, a lot aren't very detailed, but I kind of agree with Evelyn she tries to manipulate everyone around her and deserves what she gets. My vote also goes for Johnny Silverhand in Act 2, he mellows out a bit later on.
legion248 Jul 6, 2022 @ 1:13pm 
Yeah Ev is pretty self serving and massively dishonest time after time. The only real point in her favor is she is doing so seemingly to escape being a Doll and tool in others hands. But her being willing to burn everyone and everything to get what she wants, damn the consequences, that's pretty scum even for night city.

She clearly already had sway with both the Moxes and influence at Clouds, and brains nuff to figure out what the Relic was maybe really worth. Never mind whatever she pulled to get Dex to come back from the dark. She had good things and was willing to burn it all for just a chance at everything.
Piderman Jul 7, 2022 @ 6:51am 
What about the AI posing as Alt? Its a literal Monster when you think about it.
Vela Darney Jul 7, 2022 @ 6:44pm 
Originally posted by abolishbananas:
i mean the obvious choice would be saburo and maybe alt for her role in developing the soulkiller program.

just like what johnny said, "corps have long controlled our lives, taken lots... now they're after our souls!" also correct me if im wrong but didn't yorinobu try to sabotage arasaka from the inside, wasn't that his plan all along? maybe its more of a theory than a fact.

but yeah evelyn is pretty disgusting and backstabby. everything about her is shady.

Agree with all of this. Saburo's the guy who considers - seriously considers - just nuking Night City and the only reason he delays his plans (cos he's still gonna nuke Night City if he doesn't recover the Relic prototype, he'd rather oblitrate an entire city, seven million people, than have that tech fall in the hands of his competitors, what an absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥) is cos Hanako tells him not to do it. (IIRC, it isn't even because of the Relic when he first considers nuking Night City - he considers doing it just because he can and dislikes Night City.)

And yes, Yorinobu intended to sabotage Arasaka from the inside. It becomes clear in the Devil ending, when V talks to him before Hanako shows up. There's been a "rebellion" going on at multiple Arasaka locations, that night but now, "thanks" to V interfering on behalf of Hanako, it's failed and of course, all those involved will be killed Yorinobu also said something to the effect that, in 2023, when the nuke that obliterated Arasaka Tower in Night City failed to accomplish ANYTHING at all, he realized Arasaka couldn't be destroyed from the outside. That's why he returned to the family, to become the bomb that destroys Arasaka from the inside.

Evelyn might be pretty shady but she's not the one who's planning to murder almost seven million innocent people (well - you know what I mean ...) for a morally questionable (at best) piece of prototype tech whose sole purpose is to ensure Saburo's immortality. Besides, Evelyn got more than she deserved, in the end. Saburo's death was WAY too quick and painless. As far as game characters go, I hope he rots in hell. Though there's a chance even the devil is thoroughly disgusted by him and doesn't want him there.
cl656 Jul 13, 2022 @ 12:04am 
Saburo Arasaka is the worst.. Saburo Arasaka is essentially what if Hideki Tojo fused with a self made billionaire.
legion248 Jul 13, 2022 @ 8:31pm 
Originally posted by Vela Darney:
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Besides, Evelyn got more than she deserved, in the end. Saburo's death was WAY too quick and painless. As far as game characters go, I hope he rots in hell. Though there's a chance even the devil is thoroughly disgusted by him and doesn't want him there.

Different layers of hell imo, Saburo qualifies for Greed and Violence(4th and 7th respectively). Ev is Fraud and Treachery(8th and 9th). Make of those what you will.

Mind that even the most pacifist path V can take still is packed with Greed and Violence. Even before the Heist there aspiration is making it big in line of work that runs on exactly those 2 sins, at minimum, with chances aplenty for all the rest.

Saburo also to me seems like the sort to plan for any eventuality and recourse. If blow night city to glowing ash was high up the list of options why even show up to confront his son who was on his second or third chance and still fighting him? He doesn't seem the type to forget or forgive.

He also doesn't seem the type to lavishly expend resources like at all, otherwise why keep the engram of one of your most publicly noteworthy opponents around for 5 decades? Why wipe a whole city that you have a huge share of the economy pie of?

He certainly considered blasting the city, but the why is less clear. For the secret of potential immortality the Relic represented? He seems savvy nuff to know that nothing stays secret forever. Although i imagine being first among immortals would be attractive, several million deaths seems wasteful for just safeguarding being first. Mind it was still an unproven prototype at that moment.

It seems he considered the kaboom option more for what Silverhand on that particular chip could cause, and he seems to have been proven correct in that regard. An eldritch monster in the form of Alt, and one of his most famous foes living again? and both maybe under sway of the likes of the Voodoo Boys, or Netwatch? Far more plausible imo.
Lynma Jul 13, 2022 @ 9:54pm 
Yeah, I must admit that we are pretty violent too. Like what the doll said to us : "If you must kill, kill !" And we can kill a lot of people, even if it's also possible to take a pacifist road.

I didn't hesitate to kill Brigitte and her group, but one of the thing I'll never do in any game, is to betray someone that trust me, I'll never get that red Shion Coyote ^^
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