Edgerunners ending... everyone is sad due to its ending....

[Mendys]

What guys did you expect? Its a CYBERPUNK. Dystopia, sad and depressing world where no one really wins.
You just play with the cards you were given. And you either win... or die.
You cant really expect a happy ending. But its a shame, pretty much everyone died
(Specially the interesting characters)

[Zebedee]

Rafal Jaki (CDPR's showrunner for Edgerunners) wrote this: "I see a lot of people in denial about the ending of #Edgerunners. From the start the show was going to be a Noir story so no happy ending was a requirement. In this structure the hero cannot win against the system but can fight for the people he/she loves."

And shared the link below.

"No happy ending: did I mention the part about leaving hope at the door? Noir is the boulevard of broken dreams, so don’t expect to let your protagonist get the guy and skip off into the sunset. That’s not going to wash in noir. Your lead may die, either literally or metaphorically. Maybe they lose everything – family, job, grip on sanity. Or maybe they just lose the object of their desire – money, revenge, fame. Whatever happens, make sure the protagonist is no further ahead by the end. So, they solved the mystery, but it turns out the girl of their dreams killed that guy or they still lost all the cash and they’ve got to leave town. No sunsets, no kisses and definitely no wedding – this is noir, not Jane Austen."

https://writersanontaunton.wordpress.com/2016/05/18/11-elements-of-writing-noir/

It's one of the things cyberpunk as a genre leans into a lot. The game does it for the endings but there's plenty of Noir tropes and stories scattered through it.

[Mendys]

Originally posted by Zebedee:

Rafal Jaki (CDPR's showrunner for Edgerunners) wrote this: "I see a lot of people in denial about the ending of #Edgerunners. From the start the show was going to be a Noir story so no happy ending was a requirement. In this structure the hero cannot win against the system but can fight for the people he/she loves."

And shared the link below.

"No happy ending: did I mention the part about leaving hope at the door? Noir is the boulevard of broken dreams, so don’t expect to let your protagonist get the guy and skip off into the sunset. That’s not going to wash in noir. Your lead may die, either literally or metaphorically. Maybe they lose everything – family, job, grip on sanity. Or maybe they just lose the object of their desire – money, revenge, fame. Whatever happens, make sure the protagonist is no further ahead by the end. So, they solved the mystery, but it turns out the girl of their dreams killed that guy or they still lost all the cash and they’ve got to leave town. No sunsets, no kisses and definitely no wedding – this is noir, not Jane Austen."

https://writersanontaunton.wordpress.com/2016/05/18/11-elements-of-writing-noir/

It's one of the things cyberpunk as a genre leans into a lot. The game does it for the endings but there's plenty of Noir tropes and stories scattered through it.

Very interesting, thank you for that

[Nox]

Originally posted by Mendys Icarus:

What guys did you expect? Its a CYBERPUNK. Dystopia, sad and depressing world where no one really wins.
You just play with the cards you were given. And you either win... or die.
You cant really expect a happy ending. But its a shame, pretty much everyone died
(Specially the interesting characters)

The Rebecca death felt a little bit forced tho...Like she could have survived but it feels she died only for shock value.

Others will probably talk about how strong Smasher is in anime compared to the game.. I understand them but I also understand that anime is anime :D

[Mortus Eclipse]

I think this is something a lot of people miss about Cyberpunk as a whole. There is no saving Night City, it and it's civilisation is to far gone. The best you can do is try to leave a lasting impression on those you come in contact with, and a grand legend when you die. Any good you have done on a larger scale will undo its self in record time, returning to the dystopia it started as.

[doublejesus]

I've watched anime before so I'm more surprised when they kill people off early not at the end! My problem was how some looney toons type ♥♥♥♥ would happen or be the result of anime production corner cutting techniques and really take me out of the whole show, because otherwise the world and the people would really draw me in.

It's actually very similar to the game in that sense so it holds up to the source!

[Zebedee]

Cyberpunk is an inherently hopeful genre for the period it was originally written. The human race survives the nuclear war.

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by Snake:

Originally posted by Mendys Icarus:

What guys did you expect? Its a CYBERPUNK. Dystopia, sad and depressing world where no one really wins.
You just play with the cards you were given. And you either win... or die.
You cant really expect a happy ending. But its a shame, pretty much everyone died
(Specially the interesting characters)

The Rebecca death felt a little bit forced tho...Like she could have survived but it feels she died only for shock value.

Others will probably talk about how strong Smasher is in anime compared to the game.. I understand them but I also understand that anime is anime :D

Rebecca had to die, As fun of a character as she was, she was not a cdpr idea. She was Trigger's Idea.

They could work lucy and David into future game plotlines and such, Either in person or in other means, But cdpr likely had the whole idea for edgerunners written out before trigger said "Hey add in this loli" and so they wrote her in.


I'm sticking by me original theory: David isn't really gone. Smasher turned him into an engram. When V is doing research into mikoshi during phantom liberty, He's going to find David's name on the list of engrams. He's gonna reconize it, He's gonna call falco since he has his number already. He's going to tell falco their plan to breach mikoshi. Falco will say he knows a good netrunner who would surely help: In comes Lucy. We find out Arasaka has been cloning David's body to study how he was able to endure cyberpyschosis for so long as part of their mech suit research. We get david onto a relic, We put him back into one of the cloned bodies, He's able to live again.

Even if it doesn't go EXACTLY like how I theorize, Using lucy to help assault mikoshi would be a fun alternative option to using Alt to do it. I do not trust alt at all, and I didn't like that I HAVE to basically use her.

[Nox]

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Originally posted by Snake:

The Rebecca death felt a little bit forced tho...Like she could have survived but it feels she died only for shock value.

Others will probably talk about how strong Smasher is in anime compared to the game.. I understand them but I also understand that anime is anime :D

Rebecca had to die, As fun of a character as she was, she was not a cdpr idea. She was Trigger's Idea.

They could work lucy and David into future game plotlines and such, Either in person or in other means, But cdpr likely had the whole idea for edgerunners written out before trigger said "Hey add in this loli" and so they wrote her in.


I'm sticking by me original theory: David isn't really gone. Smasher turned him into an engram. When V is doing research into mikoshi during phantom liberty, He's going to find David's name on the list of engrams. He's gonna reconize it, He's gonna call falco since he has his number already. He's going to tell falco their plan to breach mikoshi. Falco will say he knows a good netrunner who would surely help: In comes Lucy. We find out Arasaka has been cloning David's body to study how he was able to endure cyberpyschosis for so long as part of their mech suit research. We get david onto a relic, We put him back into one of the cloned bodies, He's able to live again.

Even if it doesn't go EXACTLY like how I theorize, Using lucy to help assault mikoshi would be a fun alternative option to using Alt to do it. I do not trust alt at all, and I didn't like that I HAVE to basically use her.

That theory of yours aint bad at all.

As for Alt... Makes two of us, something on her is just off.

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by Snake:

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Rebecca had to die, As fun of a character as she was, she was not a cdpr idea. She was Trigger's Idea.

They could work lucy and David into future game plotlines and such, Either in person or in other means, But cdpr likely had the whole idea for edgerunners written out before trigger said "Hey add in this loli" and so they wrote her in.


I'm sticking by me original theory: David isn't really gone. Smasher turned him into an engram. When V is doing research into mikoshi during phantom liberty, He's going to find David's name on the list of engrams. He's gonna reconize it, He's gonna call falco since he has his number already. He's going to tell falco their plan to breach mikoshi. Falco will say he knows a good netrunner who would surely help: In comes Lucy. We find out Arasaka has been cloning David's body to study how he was able to endure cyberpyschosis for so long as part of their mech suit research. We get david onto a relic, We put him back into one of the cloned bodies, He's able to live again.

Even if it doesn't go EXACTLY like how I theorize, Using lucy to help assault mikoshi would be a fun alternative option to using Alt to do it. I do not trust alt at all, and I didn't like that I HAVE to basically use her.

That theory of yours aint bad at all.

As for Alt... Makes two of us, something on her is just off.

The way Alt is able to basically flatline entire groups of people at a time is very unnerving. She does it to the voodoo boys, she does it to arasaka. She has A LOT of power for someone who claims they are no longer human and just an AI. She's been on the other side of the blackwall for 70 years. She doesn't seem very friendly. She wants to use V as a pawn to get into Mikoshi.
Imagine the damage she could do if she used arasaka tower to somehow broadcast her signal from a sat link all across the world. Imagine the people she could kill in an instant. Imagine the netrunners she could instantly trap in the verse.
She's literally Skynet in a way, And considering we have a mission where it's possible that rogue AI's are taking over people's minds and bodies...It's not at all a comforting idea letting her be in any position of power.

[Sex (Gay)]

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Originally posted by Snake:

The Rebecca death felt a little bit forced tho...Like she could have survived but it feels she died only for shock value.

Others will probably talk about how strong Smasher is in anime compared to the game.. I understand them but I also understand that anime is anime :D

Rebecca had to die, As fun of a character as she was, she was not a cdpr idea. She was Trigger's Idea.

They could work lucy and David into future game plotlines and such, Either in person or in other means, But cdpr likely had the whole idea for edgerunners written out before trigger said "Hey add in this loli" and so they wrote her in.


I'm sticking by me original theory: David isn't really gone. Smasher turned him into an engram. When V is doing research into mikoshi during phantom liberty, He's going to find David's name on the list of engrams. He's gonna reconize it, He's gonna call falco since he has his number already. He's going to tell falco their plan to breach mikoshi. Falco will say he knows a good netrunner who would surely help: In comes Lucy. We find out Arasaka has been cloning David's body to study how he was able to endure cyberpyschosis for so long as part of their mech suit research. We get david onto a relic, We put him back into one of the cloned bodies, He's able to live again.

Even if it doesn't go EXACTLY like how I theorize, Using lucy to help assault mikoshi would be a fun alternative option to using Alt to do it. I do not trust alt at all, and I didn't like that I HAVE to basically use her.

This is exactly what i thought too, i have hopes that theyll make a season 2 thats this someday but i also think its fine if they dont, i always have my headcanon

[erwilly]

no happy ending are easier for the screenwriters and for the production, you kill people and you don't have to worry about how they can win.