[spoilers] couldnt v user their own bd for evidence?

[✿Sakura Rozu✿]

so i ask this couldnt v user their own bd to show who murdered the old guy and all this would of been avoided?

[WuffWabbit]

Originally posted by ✿Sakura Rozu✿:

so i ask this couldnt v user their own bd to show who murdered the old guy and all this would of been avoided?

You need specific headgear while doing something to record a BD of you doing that something. V wasn't wearing BD recording equipment during that...

edit; also, as Judy demonstrates - BD's can and are regularly edited. Nobody would take that as proof I'm sure.

[meredith999]

yep

[The Burner]

I imagine Yorinobu's fingerprints being all over old dudes neck would be an immediate giveaway as well, seeing as how he strangled him to death and asphyxiation is pretty easy to figure out

[meredith999]

Originally posted by Solitude:

I imagine Yorinobu's fingerprints being all over old dudes neck would be an immediate giveaway as well, seeing as how he strangled him to death and asphyxiation is pretty easy to figure out

yep but also the camera in the room the security system

[✿Sakura Rozu✿]

Originally posted by meredith999:

Originally posted by Solitude:

I imagine Yorinobu's fingerprints being all over old dudes neck would be an immediate giveaway as well, seeing as how he strangled him to death and asphyxiation is pretty easy to figure out

yep but also the camera in the room the security system

yup so many plot holes. common sense doesnt exist in 2077

or even a cell phone vid?

[meredith999]

lol yep

[Licorice Popcorn]

It's been answered already but - V doesn't film bds, wasn't wearing head gear for it or came to the location with the intention on scrolling a bd. V and Jackie were caught by surprise with Saburo's murder, they were just focused on finishing the gig and getting out alive. And the police are pretty corrupt in this world, with corps basically being able to do whatever so of course Yorinobu was going to get away with it (cameras or not).

[Weaver]

You're mistakenly thinking of things from a perspective of government and police separated from Corporations, and that's not how Night City works.

Night City is a free city, meaning it doesn't have a traditional government, it is not part of any country, but is ran by corporations with a token city council for looks. And of those corporations, Arasaka is king in Night City. So there isn't an FBI or Police or anyone else to hand over evidence to, as all the law enforcement in Night City belongs to the corporations.
So V accusing Yorinubo of anything publicly is meaningless and trying to turn in evidence to authorities would just mean V ends up in a landfill, again, or worse most likely, another victim of Soulkiller.
All the higher up are aware of what happened, they aren't stupid, but no one who values their life is going to point a finger at as he can simply have them disposed of, and they have nothing to gain from it.
What happens to Takemura is a prime example. Stripped of everything and a wanted man.
Yorinubo is for all intents and purposes Emperor King of Night City, there is no one with the authority to hold him responsible for anything.
This is also why more effort isn't put into finding V, you just aren't considered a credible threat, you're simply a Nobody wannabe rookie solo.

[Weaver]

Originally posted by Morbious:

i thought the same at the time you get to watch memories (which i understand can be edited) but you have the corp cop's friend plug into you (Bot deal) to see if your telling the truth

at the time i thought why not combine them both
but the biggest hole during the whole mission and i found really really annoying if i can hear them why don't they hear jackie......actor wasnt exactly whispering those lines

That voice thing can be explained by needs of gameplay. You don't want voice actors speaking so quietly they are hard for the player to hear even if they are meant to be whispering.
The actual mistake in that scene is that if you have the eye mod that highlights an enemy if they've spotted you, Adam Smasher lights up lol.

[Fizwalker]

Originally posted by ✿Sakura Rozu✿:

Originally posted by meredith999:

yep but also the camera in the room the security system

yup so many plot holes. common sense doesnt exist in 2077

or even a cell phone vid?

I think you are missing a few things in your analysis...

1.) The suite's security was compromised by an outside source--Remember the bot was found at the Dweller's location. They also killed T-Bug through this connection. The data captured during the murder would be suspect and unreliable.

2.) Yorinobu would certainly have known about the security measures in the suite and destroyed whatever recordings were made by the security systems. He would also know the procedures or found out about them and taken the necessary measures-- He was/is the son of Saburo Arasaka. Yorinobu also has a faction within the Arasaka corp loyal to him to help him cover up the death of his father.

3.) V does not have BD recording implants, so they cannot make a record of the events during the heist. Frankly, it would be stupid of them to have that had the heist gone down as planned..... Imagine carrying around a record of the highly illegal thing that you did...... You might as well hang a huge flashing neon sign saying "I Robbed Arasaka Corp of the Relic, come get me!" if it ever got out, and then why hinder yourself with keeping it a secret that would kill you for the rest of your life?

4.) Phones that exist as a hand held device in 2077 seem to be a fairly rare thing. Given that most phone calls seem to go into an implant. Further, given the history of the Cyberpunk IP, it is very likely that handheld phones, such as they are, never developed the ability to take pictures or record video. (When the timelines split in 1989 or so, cell phones were still in their infancy. A friendly reminder: the Cyberpunk universe is NOT our universe) . Neither V or Jackie had a physical phone; every call they ever made was through an implant, so even if a cell phone had the capability, it wouldn't have been possible for them to record the events.

That's just what you pointed out as holes. Hope this helps.

[Dimitri]

I don't believe V was recording the heist because while he has the gear to watch and edit BDs the game gives no indication that he can record them at all. That being said, there is a particular someone during the overall ending that basically confirms that even if V had proof, it wouldn't matter because of some specifics...

[✿Sakura Rozu✿]

Originally posted by Fizwalker:

Originally posted by ✿Sakura Rozu✿:

yup so many plot holes. common sense doesnt exist in 2077

or even a cell phone vid?

I think you are missing a few things in your analysis...

1.) The suite's security was compromised by an outside source--Remember the bot was found at the Dweller's location. They also killed T-Bug through this connection. The data captured during the murder would be suspect and unreliable.

2.) Yorinobu would certainly have known about the security measures in the suite and destroyed whatever recordings were made by the security systems. He would also know the procedures or found out about them and taken the necessary measures-- He was/is the son of Saburo Arasaka. Yorinobu also has a faction within the Arasaka corp loyal to him to help him cover up the death of his father.

3.) V does not have BD recording implants, so they cannot make a record of the events during the heist. Frankly, it would be stupid of them to have that had the heist gone down as planned..... Imagine carrying around a record of the highly illegal thing that you did...... You might as well hang a huge flashing neon sign saying "I Robbed Arasaka Corp of the Relic, come get me!" if it ever got out, and then why hinder yourself with keeping it a secret that would kill you for the rest of your life?

4.) Phones that exist as a hand held device in 2077 seem to be a fairly rare thing. Given that most phone calls seem to go into an implant. Further, given the history of the Cyberpunk IP, it is very likely that handheld phones, such as they are, never developed the ability to take pictures or record video. (When the timelines split in 1989 or so, cell phones were still in their infancy. A friendly reminder: the Cyberpunk universe is NOT our universe) . Neither V or Jackie had a physical phone; every call they ever made was through an implant, so even if a cell phone had the capability, it wouldn't have been possible for them to record the events.

That's just what you pointed out as holes. Hope this helps.

it did thank you

[Fizwalker]

Originally posted by Weaver:

You're mistakenly thinking of things from a perspective of government and police separated from Corporations, and that's not how Night City works.

Night City is a free city, meaning it doesn't have a traditional government, it is not part of any country, but is ran by corporations with a token city council for looks. And of those corporations, Arasaka is king in Night City. So there isn't an FBI or Police or anyone else to hand over evidence to, as all the law enforcement in Night City belongs to the corporations.
So V accusing Yorinubo of anything publicly is meaningless and trying to turn in evidence to authorities would just mean V ends up in a landfill, again, or worse most likely, another victim of Soulkiller.
All the higher up are aware of what happened, they aren't stupid, but no one who values their life is going to point a finger at as he can simply have them disposed of, and they have nothing to gain from it.
What happens to Takemura is a prime example. Stripped of everything and a wanted man.
Yorinubo is for all intents and purposes Emperor King of Night City, there is no one with the authority to hold him responsible for anything.
This is also why more effort isn't put into finding V, you just aren't considered a credible threat, you're simply a Nobody wannabe rookie solo.

As an addition to what you've said regarding why not a lot of effort is placed in finding V. It's quite possible that the data remaining with Arasaka shows the Relic Chip will kill V anyway, and it's highly unlikely that V would provide anything against Yorinobu before they were dead.

[Sol Karas]

Originally posted by Fizwalker:

4.) Phones that exist as a hand held device in 2077 seem to be a fairly rare thing. Given that most phone calls seem to go into an implant. Further, given the history of the Cyberpunk IP, it is very likely that handheld phones, such as they are, never developed the ability to take pictures or record video. (When the timelines split in 1989 or so, cell phones were still in their infancy. A friendly reminder: the Cyberpunk universe is NOT our universe) . Neither V or Jackie had a physical phone; every call they ever made was through an implant, so even if a cell phone had the capability, it wouldn't have been possible for them to record the events.

There is a point in the game where some girls take a picture with a phone (one of them poses next to the conspiracy nut by Misty and Victor's shops). You also see people talking on phones and fooling around with them as idle animations around the city.

However... I highly doubt either Jackie or V would've had the presence of mind to whip out a phone to start recording while they were in the middle of a heist and also ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ themselves hoping they wouldn't be discovered lol

[meredith999]

Originally posted by Sol Karas:

Originally posted by Fizwalker:

4.) Phones that exist as a hand held device in 2077 seem to be a fairly rare thing. Given that most phone calls seem to go into an implant. Further, given the history of the Cyberpunk IP, it is very likely that handheld phones, such as they are, never developed the ability to take pictures or record video. (When the timelines split in 1989 or so, cell phones were still in their infancy. A friendly reminder: the Cyberpunk universe is NOT our universe) . Neither V or Jackie had a physical phone; every call they ever made was through an implant, so even if a cell phone had the capability, it wouldn't have been possible for them to record the events.

There is a point in the game where some girls take a picture with a phone (one of them poses next to the conspiracy nut by Misty and Victor's shops). You also see people talking on phones and fooling around with them as idle animations around the city.

However... I highly doubt either Jackie or V would've had the presence of mind to whip out a phone to start recording while they were in the middle of a heist and also ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ themselves hoping they wouldn't be discovered lol

yes that would be the last thing i think of