V vs Johnny

[KAPPA]

The relationship between V and Johnny is hilarious, there are some passages that make me piss myself laughing..haha

[Tokenn]

The interaction in Losing My Religion [rescuing the monk from Maelstrom] never fails to make me laugh.

[EJR]

Originally posted by Tokenn:

The interaction in Losing My Religion [rescuing the monk from Maelstrom] never fails to make me laugh.

What does Johnny say for that quest? I always did it before getting the Relic

[Silverbane7]

Originally posted by EJR:

Originally posted by Tokenn:

The interaction in Losing My Religion [rescuing the monk from Maelstrom] never fails to make me laugh.

What does Johnny say for that quest? I always did it before getting the Relic

After interacting with the chromed monk, he makes a comment about how are you going to stop the gangoons peacefully.
To which V will reply sarcastically. This causes him to give V 'the finger'. V gives him it right back. He grins and doubles down. (One of the best reactions he's known for lmao)

After you take out the gangoons peacefully, he has a remark there about how V should maybe give up the Merc life, but V explains not every interaction requires violence, and they discuss how they don't need all that cyber wear, if they have enough to spare on monks.
(No idea what he says if you MDK them lol. Never done it that way)

My main V tells him (in my head canon, not actually says it tho in game, unfortunately)
"Didn't take em out peacefully just cause the monk asked me to, Johnny. Took em down like this cause it will tank their rep. Word gets around they were knocked out by a little thing like me, with less chrome than the average Maelstromer's got in their hand....their rep will drop through the floor faster than you can say Friday night firefight. Might make em think twice about grabbin random gonks off the street to vandalise. Might make em check their gangoons recruitment too, persuade em to take better gonks instead of randoms, if a lightweight like me can take em out so easily."

[Sassanid]

ngl the more I play the more Johnny has grown on me. His sadistic, dark, sarcastic humor isn't for everyone

[Zak]

Originally posted by Fret 𐎣𐎡𐎠𐎵𐎡:

ngl the more I play the more Johnny has grown on me. His sadistic, dark, sarcastic humor isn't for everyone

Silverhand ruined this game for me. I can't stand him. Easily the most annoying character in any video game I ever played. I'm doing (well, more like trying to do) my second playthrough, but just the side missions, gigs and police scanners so far. I don' think I'll be able to suffer through this again to complete the main story missions. Unbelievably irritating.

[Sassanid]

Originally posted by Zak:

Originally posted by Fret 𐎣𐎡𐎠𐎵𐎡:

ngl the more I play the more Johnny has grown on me. His sadistic, dark, sarcastic humor isn't for everyone

Silverhand ruined this game for me. I can't stand him. Easily the most annoying character in any video game I ever played. I'm doing (well, more like trying to do) my second playthrough, but just the side missions, gigs and police scanners so far. I don' think I'll be able to suffer through this again to complete the main story missions. Unbelievably irritating.

Oh c'mon he's not that bad. You have to remember his life and current situation. Dude is literally a brain virus which is probably why he bugs so many people, excuse the pun.

[EricHVela]

The one thing that bugs me about Johnny is how he's railroaded worse than the player. V can be as antagonistic as possible with Johnny, and at one point, Johnny suddenly decides that V is his only real friend.

Otherwise, he's great as a little-devil-on-one-shoulder character (with no angel on the other).

[EJR]

Originally posted by Silverbane7:

After you take out the gangoons peacefully, he has a remark there about how V should maybe give up the Merc life, but V explains not every interaction requires violence, and they discuss how they don't need all that cyber wear, if they have enough to spare on monks.
(No idea what he says if you MDK them lol. Never done it that way)

Interesting, didn't think he'd say something since it's one of the first side missions in the game you come across so you're often drawn to do it immediately. How about the side mission where the guy needs to see a ripperdoc or otherwise his ♥♥♥♥ will blow up?

Originally posted by Fret 𐎣𐎡𐎠𐎵𐎡:

Oh c'mon he's not that bad. You have to remember his life and current situation. Dude is literally a brain virus which is probably why he bugs so many people, excuse the pun.

IMO it is not the case that Johnny is bad as a character, he does have reasons to be cynical and be some angsty rebel. I think it is more of the case that Keanu Reeves was just acting like he always does for his films - monotone and so serious if not uninterested that he could be medically dead. I didn't like him either initially but have grown used to him in my subsequent playthroughs, and I learned to only tolerate him.

[Silverbane7]

Mr smoking junk?
Yeah, nope. He's silent through that mad dash. There is a difference between FemV and MascV conversation tho.
Vincent knows about that implant, mentions it by number lol (19b, iirc) says he's clued up on the implants.
While Valerie skips that part of the conversation.

I heard he used to have dialog during 'monster hunter' (visiting Jotaro at the HoOh club) but it got cut.
He doesn't have that many comments during the Watson gigs tbh. Probably because you were likely to do many of the to get levels back at the start in Vers 1.0 lol.

The monks, the cop at Rebecca's house, a comment at the cyberpsycho at the docks.
Barry's best friend.
If you go-to get your car before meeting Takamura at Tom's diner, he has a different conversation now, and the original line if you get smashed into after.
The spooky maelstrom cyberpsycho encounter. The guy holed up in an abandoned building with meds (ex soldier) he also has a line when Regina sends you after a gonks laptop.
Think that's about it for Watson zone comments, from memory.

Personally, I just do the ncpd points till I'm high enough to be able to take out Jotaro, then add the missing persons mod Watson gigs up to the cop lady on a steak out at the market job, before going on the heist.
(I sneak out the back way from Viks and leave Jackie with Misty for a few days. Come back, pay Vik then talk to Jackie after.)

[NixBoxDone]

Johnny has his moments. Personally I like the one where you sleuth after a wife for potential cheating the most.
He grated on me a bit at the start but that was mostly the situation speaking. Finding out you have a hitchhiker spying on your every move, having that hitchhiker interact with you in a very confrontational manner and finding out that the chip he's on is literally killing you one braincells at a time tends to make for a rather tall hill to climb.

[Sassanid]

Originally posted by EJR:

Originally posted by Silverbane7:

After you take out the gangoons peacefully, he has a remark there about how V should maybe give up the Merc life, but V explains not every interaction requires violence, and they discuss how they don't need all that cyber wear, if they have enough to spare on monks.
(No idea what he says if you MDK them lol. Never done it that way)

Interesting, didn't think he'd say something since it's one of the first side missions in the game you come across so you're often drawn to do it immediately. How about the side mission where the guy needs to see a ripperdoc or otherwise his ♥♥♥♥ will blow up?

Originally posted by Fret 𐎣𐎡𐎠𐎵𐎡:

Oh c'mon he's not that bad. You have to remember his life and current situation. Dude is literally a brain virus which is probably why he bugs so many people, excuse the pun.

IMO it is not the case that Johnny is bad as a character, he does have reasons to be cynical and be some angsty rebel. I think it is more of the case that Keanu Reeves was just acting like he always does for his films - monotone and so serious if not uninterested that he could be medically dead. I didn't like him either initially but have grown used to him in my subsequent playthroughs, and I learned to only tolerate him.

Funny that's exactly how V seems to feel in the game too if you compare V's initial reaction to Johnny compared to late game

[KAPPA]

...for example ( SPOILER ALERT !!! ),,,, the way Johnny tells the story in the mission Pepe's Wife is too funny in the game context!! you can't deny it !! ahah

[Fņŏŕď]

Silverhand is a prick.

[Derglesnaf]

"How do I know? I only see what you see dumbass!"

[EJR]

Originally posted by Fret 𐎣𐎡𐎠𐎵𐎡:

Funny that's exactly how V seems to feel in the game too if you compare V's initial reaction to Johnny compared to late game

I honestly cannot see how other people get attached to him and have difficulty choosing whether V lives or Johnny takes V's body. He is an interesting guy to talk with for sure and what he offers to say is insightful in some scenes, but I don't see myself throwing him at Alt so they can go to the Blackwall or whatever they were going while V gets to live the life he has left after dealing with the Relic fiasco.