NVIDIA DLAA

[Tuuka]

will it get more optimized and improved?

[Zebedee]

If you identify issues and send them in for CDPR to look at then there's a decent chance of anything new being refined. Sasko streamed last night and talked about the new tech additions being imperfect currently so I think they are aware of issues and will want to polish up as much as they can before they do eventually move on to other games.

Where to report issues/bugs/whatever: https://support.cdprojektred.com/en/cyberpunk/pc/gameplay

[Northwold]

It depends what you mean by optimise and improve. DLAA is not an upscaling technology, unlike DLSS. It's effectively adding more detail to the native resolution render, not rendering at lower resolution and blowing the image up to a bigger size. So it's much more resource intensive.

[Tuuka]

Originally posted by Northwold:

It depends what you mean by optimise and improve. DLAA is not an upscaling technology, unlike DLSS. It's effectively adding more detail to the native resolution render, not rendering at lower resolution and blowing the image up to a bigger size. So it's much more resource intensive.

Not even a RTX 4090 can handle it stable fps drops to 50-40 fps

[Crimsomrider]

Originally posted by Tuuka:

Not even a RTX 4090 can handle it stable fps drops to 50-40 fps

That's not a sign of it being unoptimized though.

There is currently no hardware that exists which can natively run Cyberpunk fully maxed out without the use of DLSS or Frame Generation at stable framerates. Yes, even the 4090 is not enough.

So you're not supposed to use it at max settings, unless you're willing to give up on graphical fidelity in order to gain more performance headroom.

It's intended for those who have a lot of performance headroom and aren't playing at max settings, such as 60-120FPS without RTX, but don't want TAA to be used because it's blurry. So you turn on DLAA instead which is better AI anti-aliasing than TAA.

But if you want fully maxed settings + DLAA, then that's a thing for the GPUs of the future which will have enough computing power to run this beautiful game fully maxed at native resolution without a sweat, so they won't rely on DLSS/FG to run the game.

Until that day comes however, you're stuck with DLSS and FG.

[IDKFA]

Originally posted by Northwold:

It depends what you mean by optimise and improve. DLAA is not an upscaling technology, unlike DLSS. It's effectively adding more detail to the native resolution render, not rendering at lower resolution and blowing the image up to a bigger size. So it's much more resource intensive.

It makes me sad that "new technology" requires me to go back to 2008 resolution.

New tech that is so demanding on your system you can only play when upscaled ... /smh

My car goes 180mph, but only if you shrink it to a hot wheel and conver it to kph. /headscratch

[IDKFA]

Originally posted by Crimsomrider:

Originally posted by Tuuka:

Not even a RTX 4090 can handle it stable fps drops to 50-40 fps

That's not a sign of it being unoptimized though.

There is currently no hardware that exists which can natively run Cyberpunk fully maxed out without the use of DLSS or Frame Generation at stable framerates. Yes, even the 4090 is not enough.

So you're not supposed to use it at max settings, unless you're willing to give up on graphical fidelity in order to gain more performance headroom.

It's intended for those who have a lot of performance headroom and aren't playing at max settings, such as 60-120FPS without RTX, but don't want TAA to be used because it's blurry. So you turn on DLAA instead which is better AI anti-aliasing than TAA.

But if you want fully maxed settings + DLAA, then that's a thing for the GPUs of the future which will have enough computing power to run this beautiful game fully maxed at native resolution without a sweat, so they won't rely on DLSS/FG to run the game.

Until that day comes however, you're stuck with DLSS and FG.

A 3 year old game, delving into 'tech' that won't be playable for at least 3 more years, more likely 6.

Legit.

[Tuuka]

We have to wait for 50series cards to play native settings maxed out especially with the new Raytracing tech

[ASPIK]

Originally posted by Tuuka:

Originally posted by Northwold:

It depends what you mean by optimise and improve. DLAA is not an upscaling technology, unlike DLSS. It's effectively adding more detail to the native resolution render, not rendering at lower resolution and blowing the image up to a bigger size. So it's much more resource intensive.

Not even a RTX 4090 can handle it stable fps drops to 50-40 fps

I can run it with my 4080(DLAA but no pathtracing) around 90/100 fps so 4090 defintively can however i am in 1440p and i can say it is definitively worth it (improve a lot the game visually to my opinion)
A 4090 can probably run it in 4K as well.

[Tuuka]

Originally posted by ASPIK:

Originally posted by Tuuka:

Not even a RTX 4090 can handle it stable fps drops to 50-40 fps

I can run it with my 4080(DLAA but no pathtracing) around 90/100 fps so 4090 defintively can however i am in 1440p and i can say it is definitively worth it (improve a lot the game visually to my opinion)
A 4090 can probably run it in 4K as well.

No it does not run smooth in 4K you can watch some videos you get huge fps drops, im sure you can run it on 1440p, Also why would you need to turn on DLAA? i have 78-100 Fps max settings / Psycho RayTracing while playing native resolution 1440p RTX 4080

[ASPIK]

Originally posted by Tuuka:

Originally posted by ASPIK:

I can run it with my 4080(DLAA but no pathtracing) around 90/100 fps so 4090 defintively can however i am in 1440p and i can say it is definitively worth it (improve a lot the game visually to my opinion)
A 4090 can probably run it in 4K as well.

No it does not run smooth in 4K you can watch some videos you get huge fps drops, im sure you can run it on 1440p, Also why would you need to turn on DLAA? i have 78-100 Fps max settings / Psycho RayTracing while playing native resolution 1440p RTX 4080

Because it makes the image smoother and improve the visual quality - i guess you don't even understand what it is haha

[Raytraced]

Originally posted by Tuuka:

No it does not run smooth in 4K you can watch some videos you get huge fps drops, im sure you can run it on 1440p, Also why would you need to turn on DLAA? i have 78-100 Fps max settings / Psycho RayTracing while playing native resolution 1440p RTX 4080

Not sure what videos you are watching but the only huge FPS drop you can get with DLAA is when comparing it to DLSS. There is practically zero reason to not use it if you are already playing at native resolution as it basically gives you superior AA for a very little to no performance cost.

[ASPIK]

Originally posted by Tuuka:

Originally posted by ASPIK:

I can run it with my 4080(DLAA but no pathtracing) around 90/100 fps so 4090 defintively can however i am in 1440p and i can say it is definitively worth it (improve a lot the game visually to my opinion)
A 4090 can probably run it in 4K as well.

No it does not run smooth in 4K you can watch some videos you get huge fps drops, im sure you can run it on 1440p, Also why would you need to turn on DLAA? i have 78-100 Fps max settings / Psycho RayTracing while playing native resolution 1440p RTX 4080

Also i will be curious to see your 80/100 FPS at native 1440p with a 4080 ultra settings.
I am around 60 fps with no DLAA/DLSS/FG and when i check the benchmark around i do not really see anyone able to run as high FPS native(100) even in 1440p with a 4080 after maybe you have the most optimized PC ever :D

[Χάρης]

DLAA is not about giving you extra FPS like DLSS does. It improves image quality even further so ofc your FPS will drop. It is not a matter of being optimized or not. And in a game like cyberpunk I doubt there is any GPU that will run it with DLAA on ( assuming you play at above 1080p).

[Tuuka]

Originally posted by ASPIK:

Originally posted by Tuuka:

No it does not run smooth in 4K you can watch some videos you get huge fps drops, im sure you can run it on 1440p, Also why would you need to turn on DLAA? i have 78-100 Fps max settings / Psycho RayTracing while playing native resolution 1440p RTX 4080

Also i will be curious to see your 80/100 FPS at native 1440p with a 4080 ultra settings.
I am around 60 fps with no DLAA/DLSS/FG and when i check the benchmark around i do not really see anyone able to run as high FPS native(100) even in 1440p with a 4080 after maybe you have the most optimized PC ever :D

WIthout PathTracing i get over 60 fps, like i said 78-90, but when turning on PathTracing its rip, my fps drop to 45-50, without upscaling no chance

[Tuuka]

Originally posted by ASPIK:

Originally posted by Tuuka:

No it does not run smooth in 4K you can watch some videos you get huge fps drops, im sure you can run it on 1440p, Also why would you need to turn on DLAA? i have 78-100 Fps max settings / Psycho RayTracing while playing native resolution 1440p RTX 4080

Because it makes the image smoother and improve the visual quality - i guess you don't even understand what it is haha

Its just that its very heavy even my 4080 on 1440p cant handle DLAA, maybe will work without PathTracing havent tryed yet