Too good reviews for Cyberpunk

[Killer]

I don't know why this game is so praised. I bought it (on GOG) many years after its release because I was counting on patches. The state of this game was probably even worse a few years ago.

And now what?

- 60 fps is average, but 1% lows 35 and 0.1% lows 28, so there is no fluidity, especially in fights (6600XT, Ryzen 5600, 16GB 4000Mhz RAM DUAL)
- in the story, characters walk through furniture, boxes, cabinets, walls, because the animation doesn't program them properly where to go (but they do); I found it really funny how Jackie the giant didn't fit too well next to the door so he splashed the cabinet with the papers when he went through it

- in training you still can't dodge normally and it doesn't count, at least not without using 2x directional

- sneaking is poor, hacking ... not giving me much now

- generally the hand to hand combat is dry as a bone, you don't feel the blows, it's just some pseudo-animation like crushing opponents with paper, not with something heavy

- ugly braindance

- AI is stupid. Jackie runs everywhere while i'm searching for items with NO ENEMIES nearby, he crouches and hides in room without enemies (maybe he can't scan?) and he is shooting through walls...

- lol even more: militech is standing in the middle of the road because of mission and other npcs are not stoping driving before crashing. and they stand still exiting the car in the air! LOL!

The game has a cool plot and voice acting, the driving model is also okay, maybe the sounds and music, but the game mechanics are shockingly wooden. I don't know how it will be after developing the character and when I see all the types of missions. For now, the game is tiring for me. I only listen to the dialogues with pleasure and let's say the graphics are ok.

[Killer]

Publicado originalmente por Radical Randy:

Publicado originalmente por Killer:

You don't know what are 1% and 0.1% lows i think. I didn't mean about minimal fps :) in msi afterburner you must set benchmark options.

I usually keep my amd overlay up playing. 99th% fps (1% lows) never drop under 59 except specific places with tons of NPCs. I can run 90ish fps uncapped.

Give me proof. Record 20s video with lows benchmark.

[Zero McDol]

Most people's experiences have been good with Cyberpunk 2077 -> after all the fixes, so naturally the reviews are going to be positive. Not all, mind you, but as you can see, the majority of people who play and have played this game do recommend it to others.

Does it have issues? Sure it does, as most games do after all, but that doesn't mean that the core experience doesn't appeal to most of the people who play.

In my case, well, I'm a sandbox player, so the story is secondary for me. As such, I required mods to enhance my experience. Now though, this game is easily one of my favorite open world games, along with modded Starfield, modded Skyrim, and a Indie game called Denizen.

I could say GTA as well, but I've gotten tired of dealing with Rockstar, so my play of their games are getting more and more limited, plus am far more interested in no DRM, no always-online, no anticheat, no log in launcher.

[robwarrior]

one of the best single player games ive played :)

[Balder]

Cyberpunk 2077 is a masterpiece of visual design, with a great story and character cast. How high are your standards, if this game doesn't live up to them?

Compare CP2077 to the more recent Ubisoft, Sony, EA games, it's not even close IMO.

Also, CDPR continued support for this game is outstanding, setting a benchmark for the rest of the AAA-game industry.

[Grimmx]

Its not like any game cant simulate the freedom of real life yet, so i dont understand why that surprises anybody?
Yes you can find an odd glitch that breaks immersion, because its a GAME.

That said, i cant think of any story driven RPG game out now that are better than 2077 period.
The graphics and combat is top notch.
And you also have a good diversity in builds and a good story.

The only negative i can think of is that it doesn't offer that much replayability, because it means doing all the cut scenes and story pieces over again, and that's kinda boring.
Other than that i highly recommend it to anybody into RPG and/or Action games.

People complaining about this game, feel free to tell me what game is better in the same same category?

[catch22atplay]

So the most demanding area in the game i just tested. That's driving fast around Dogtown. The traffic circle in the pic below is where everyone has fps drops. Sure 0.1% lows can be low. And you'll notice slight hitching. Extremely minimal vs any other game i play. It's surprising how well the game actually does run. My Vsync is 60hz but i run with Vsync Off and framecap of 66 to reduce tearing. Vsync is crap with these new drivers.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3423344382

And log file looks like this and just under 5 minutes;

08-02-2025, 05:43:21 Cyberpunk2077.exe benchmark completed, 19396 frames rendered in 294.234 s
Average framerate : 65.9 FPS
Minimum framerate : 60.5 FPS
Maximum framerate : 66.4 FPS
1% low framerate : 52.3 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 35.3 FPS

Hardware and settings will dictate your results. As for the other stuff it's all subjective. Can't argue against what someone likes or dislikes. But i do know the game is extremely popular and has been for a while. And i enjoy it myself and that's what matters to me.

[Killer]

Publicado originalmente por catch22atplay:

So the most demanding area in the game i just tested. That's driving fast around Dogtown. The traffic circle in the pic below is where everyone has fps drops. Sure 0.1% lows can be low. And you'll notice slight hitching. Extremely minimal vs any other game i play. It's surprising how well the game actually does run. My Vsync is 60hz but i run with Vsync Off and framecap of 66 to reduce tearing. Vsync is crap with these new drivers.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3423344382

And log file looks like this and just under 5 minutes;

08-02-2025, 05:43:21 Cyberpunk2077.exe benchmark completed, 19396 frames rendered in 294.234 s
Average framerate : 65.9 FPS
Minimum framerate : 60.5 FPS
Maximum framerate : 66.4 FPS
1% low framerate : 52.3 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 35.3 FPS

Hardware and settings will dictate your results. As for the other stuff it's all subjective. Can't argue against what someone likes or dislikes. But i do know the game is extremely popular and has been for a while. And i enjoy it myself and that's what matters to me.

Thanks.

So you confirm that the game has problems with 0.1% and 1% lows, even on very good hardware.

Can you repeat the test on ultra without RT, without frame cap 66 fps and maybe in full hd? In fact, even when I run around the city at night and turn the camera, I already have drops to a minimum of 48 fps 0.1% low. I've never had it to 30, but I play without RT.

And do you have fast SSD/nvme?

[Oneblock]

One frame in a thousand is 35.7142857 miliseconds? That's almost exactly the length of time a signal takes to reach the brain. I bet one time in a thousand you might notice it.

Here is a thought, Turn of monitoring software and see if you can actually notice what those funny little numbers are telling you.

[Titan Awaken]

Publicado originalmente por Oneblock:

One frame in a thousand is 35.7142857 miliseconds? That's almost exactly the length of time a signal takes to reach the brain. I bet one time in a thousand you might notice it.

Here is a thought, Turn of monitoring software and see if you can actually notice what those funny little numbers are telling you.

Your argument rests on the (very incorrect) supposition that 0.1% lows can only last a single frame only before returning back to the average framerate, which is frankly absurd. The further away your 1% and 0.1% lows in a game are, the more hitches and stutters you'll get; it's literally empirical evidence.

And yes, you will notice it because it's annoying as F and interrupts your normal gameplay. What good is 120 average FPS if you periodically drop to 55 FPS or lower for a split second?

[yahboi1988]

50K players on Steam as of right now and the game is 5 years old. Seems like you're just being overly critical and most people enjoy it for what it is.

[Revelene]

Most of your issues comes from over estimating both your PC hardware capabilities and V's abilities from the start.

Sure, the "AI" could be better... but you do know that they are not actually AI, right? They're just models with animations and predetermined paths. A developer can only code so many variables before we'd need a super computer to run it. If they made it any better, you'd have an even harder time running the game.

[catch22atplay]

Publicado originalmente por Killer:

Thanks.

So you confirm that the game has problems with 0.1% and 1% lows, even on very good hardware.

Can you repeat the test on ultra without RT, without frame cap 66 fps and maybe in full hd? In fact, even when I run around the city at night and turn the camera, I already have drops to a minimum of 48 fps 0.1% low. I've never had it to 30, but I play without RT.

And do you have fast SSD/nvme?

I can confirm the game runs like any other game and or runs better then any other game. I'd rather not do any more tests to try to support your claims that i would think we all know plagues all games. It's kind of pointless. Any number of other programs running on my puter could have been the cause of the 0.1% lows. Again sensors cause issues. Google it and specifically msi afterburner author has written about this very issue. Perhaps another program would work better. But msi afterburner probably not the best. I can also go back to pre 572 gpu drivers and get different results. These 572 drivers are pretty crap. sammy 980pro nvme.

[Killer]

Publicado originalmente por catch22atplay:

Publicado originalmente por Killer:

Thanks.

So you confirm that the game has problems with 0.1% and 1% lows, even on very good hardware.

Can you repeat the test on ultra without RT, without frame cap 66 fps and maybe in full hd? In fact, even when I run around the city at night and turn the camera, I already have drops to a minimum of 48 fps 0.1% low. I've never had it to 30, but I play without RT.

And do you have fast SSD/nvme?

I can confirm the game runs like any other game and or runs better then any other game. I'd rather not do any more tests to try to support your claims that i would think we all know plagues all games. It's kind of pointless. Any number of other programs running on my puter could have been the cause of the 0.1% lows. Again sensors cause issues. Google it and specifically msi afterburner author has written about this very issue. Perhaps another program would work better. But msi afterburner probably not the best. I can also go back to pre 572 gpu drivers and get different results. These 572 drivers are pretty crap. sammy 980pro nvme.

It's good nvme.

I don't think this is msi afterburner problem because i SEE that my camera is slowing in ceratain situations when moving (by mouse). These are 1% and 0.1% lows. With RT you have much more demanding options and it is not realiable to check performance with that.

[Lokaror]

Biggest issue for me is just how much you gotta go through a huge pain in the ass to get into dialogue sometimes. When talking to an NPC there's a sweet spot you have to put your cursor on if you get out of the dialogue. This is one of the major issues with big open world games where you cannot go off the path of how they designed the game in so many instances.

[Heretic]

The game takes place in a alternate reality where Bolshevism conquered the world. Its uninteresting in that respect because it presents itself as a corpocratic dystopia, without fleshing out any of the much more interesting ideologies that would have most certainly arisen in such a different historic world.

Without the massive production values the game has, it would likely be considered much less positively.