DLSS 4 disappointing

[olekq3]

the image improved a bit, but the FPS dropped. even by 10 fps or more. is it just me who feels that the image has been worsened on the CNN DLSS?

[SolidBoss7]

Originally posted by Tr3voRR9999:

Originally posted by Obsessive Power:

Game has been updated with DLSS4.

No it hasn't ! read the patch note...!

You can read the patch notes all you want. DLSS 4 is in the game with the new transformer model being toggle-able, and not only that, when opening DLSS Swapper it shows it has DLSS 3.10.1 which is in fact the preview version of DLSS4.

[SolidBoss7]

Originally posted by Melody:

Originally posted by Lyrae:

4060 FG works fine. It requires game restart

FG seems to cause the game to never start again until I delete UserSettings.json, so it turns back off.

Error reason: Unhandled exception
Expression: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xC0000005)
Message: The thread attempted to read inaccessible data at 0xCFC00010.
File: <Unknown>(0)

This is developers' skill issue. I'm on 4070 SUPER, same problem on both Windows and Linux.

I got it to work by disabling all upscaling and running the game at about 12FPS with path tracing. Then I re-enabled DLSS and FG and it worked getting me back up to 80-90FPS

[Ciupy]

It looks way,way better than before,greatly reducing the smudge that DLSS3 applied to the screen.
It's honestly impressive.

[Porkhammer]

Originally posted by Ciupy:

It looks way,way better than before,greatly reducing the smudge that DLSS3 applied to the screen.
It's honestly impressive.

Yep, and I'm grateful that CDPR were so quick to patch it in for us.

[SolidBoss7]

Originally posted by Porkhammer:

Originally posted by Ciupy:

It looks way,way better than before,greatly reducing the smudge that DLSS3 applied to the screen.
It's honestly impressive.

Yep, and I'm grateful that CDPR were so quick to patch it in for us.

CDPR is always the first to implement NVIDIA's new advancements!! Love them for that and NVIDIA for not being complacent

[Zak]

I see no significant difference in FPS with the new DLSS Transformer option. There is like 2FPS difference in max and average FPS, which is negligible. But I haven't played the game in a while so I can't tell if there is any visual improvement. But definitely I see no slowdown, so if it looks better on top of that then it's a win ;)

Benchmark from October 2024:
"gameVersion": "2.13",
"averageFps": 124.36353302001953,
"minFps": 113.58086395263672,
"maxFps": 135.37295532226563,
"time": 64.23104858398438,

Benchmark from today:
"gameVersion": "2.21",
"averageFps": 122.38294982910156,
"minFps": 113.65767669677735,
"maxFps": 133.02471923828126,
"time": 64.2491455078125,

[Cossty]

Update for dlss 4 came right away. When fsr 3 came out we were waiting for update for months, and it was one of the worst implementation of fsr I have seen. It still isnt fixed months later. When fsr 4 comes out I wonder how quickly will they update the game.

[Hybred]

Can someone upload the DLSS dll in the game files? I don't own Cyberpunk but would like to use DLSS4 in other games

[Photonboy]

Guys (i.e. Zak),
Most of this needs an RTX50 card to take advantage of well, and may need newer drivers too.

Also, I was watching Wendell from L1Tech and he said something about the new Frame Gen mode working automatically. He seemed to imply that "x4" mode (RTX5090) on a 144Hz monitor would mean only around 36 real frames per second.

But he also said something about using a Beta version of something and wishing he could DISABLE the automatic Frame Gen option so he could get real frames. (ya, it was confusing... does he mean the new update we just got for CP2077 and he got it early?)

Anyway, my takeaway is if the game feels more sluggish than normal maybe investigate how Frame Gen is working. But I don't know if that's the RTX50 series + Beta software so I don't even know if any of us can experience this.

I probably should get a Latency monitor tool setup, but I so far haven't found my RTX4070 + Frame Gen makes sense for me on a 144Hz monitor.

[Photonboy]

Originally posted by Hybred:

Can someone upload the DLSS dll in the game files? I don't own Cyberpunk but would like to use DLSS4 in other games

NVidia App will be updating the DLSS files through an option, for games that support it. I don't know all the details yet.

So that's probably the way to go. Plus, I've messed with replacing DLL files before and for some games it worked, and for others it broke things. Probably best to just deal with the NVidia App.

I don't know what you, personally, mean by "DLSS4" but the game still needs a certain level of support AND you need the RTX50 series hardware.

[Hoakeen]

I can tell that its working, the image quality is way better than before, for some fps cost. runing at 2880x1620 Overdrive setting, im getting 100fps with DLSS 4 and frame gen on. 4070TiSuper

[Zak]

Originally posted by Photonboy:

Guys (i.e. Zak),
Most of this needs an RTX50 card to take advantage of well, and may need newer drivers too.

Yes, we know that, most. DLSS4 Multi Frame Generation will require an RTX 50 series. But the new addition of Transformer DLSS option is already in the game and works with older GPUs and current Frame Gen.

[Photonboy]

Originally posted by Zak:

Originally posted by Photonboy:

Guys (i.e. Zak),
Most of this needs an RTX50 card to take advantage of well, and may need newer drivers too.

Yes, we know that, most. DLSS4 Multi Frame Generation will require an RTX 50 series. But the new addition of Transformer DLSS option is already in the game and works with older GPUs and current Frame Gen.

I'm mainly referring to the fact that you didn't see an FPS improvement which I assume would be more obvious with an RTX50 card but I don't know if the changes take advantage of the new hardware (i.e. neural shaders) or not.

I'm sure we'll get a lot of comparisons + benchmarks over the next week.

Transformer option seems to be on by default after the update. My RTX4070 seems to run it about the same FPS so I agree if it's about the same FPS and looks better then no complaints.

(also, RTX50 series apparently has Frame pacing hardware that should make the frame times more consistent with Frame Gen. It's been tested and appears to work. I don't use Frame Gen though myself. I set an FPS cap of 80FPS, turned off ray-tracing and I think I'm on "Balanced" etc to scale to 4K. So that's about optimal for me.)

[Zak]

Originally posted by Photonboy:

Originally posted by Zak:

Yes, we know that, most. DLSS4 Multi Frame Generation will require an RTX 50 series. But the new addition of Transformer DLSS option is already in the game and works with older GPUs and current Frame Gen.

I'm mainly referring to the fact that you didn't see an FPS improvement which I assume would be more obvious with an RTX50 card

Yes, to see FPS boost from DLSS4 you'll need a 50 card. That's we're not seeing this with current cards. But the quality improvements seem to work without huge speed penalty.

[KaneKool]

Important, you have to play modern games on 4K monitor. 1080p is not working with modern AA technolgy like temporal. DLSS or FSR will not help here with 1080p!