Third person vs First person

[starlord1214]

should cyberpunk be third person or is it better in first person because FPS are better seeing facial expressions or facial capture for in game cutscenes?

[Senki]

Usually I don't care about first person and prefer third person but there's something about this game that really makes the first person view worth it and better.

The extra immersion and the way the story and world is designed just makes it better.

[Nar!]

I do love it being in first person, but I wouldn't mind having more cut scenes where I can see my character, or at the very least, see my character's reflection around windows and other reflective surfaces. :P

The first person view really is very immersive, especially when looking up at buildings. You can really sense the grand scale of Night city. Also, talking to characters feels more realistic when they're staring directly at me. Like Judy's gaze when we're having a deep convo.

Can't achieve that level of immersion in 3rd person. At least imho.

[Ffabbia]

I feel far more removed from the environment in third person, because I'm looking at it from someone's else's perspective rather than "my own." which makes it feel less immersive. I even do most of my driving in first person, though it's not always practical.

[Mentally Unstable]

If I drive/ride motorcycles, I always do it in third person. If I'm on a gig (typically auto fixer missions) that requires me to drive, it's mandatory or I'm not going to be able to pass it, especially if it requires me to deliver the vehicle in pristine condition. But I really like the interior dashboard though.

On foot, I prefer first person because I mostly play stealth builds so targeting head shots is critical for me.

[★REM★]

Absolutely a first person game. I dont see how third person can make it better in a single way.

[EricHVela]

CP'77 wouldn't be CP'77 in 3rd person. It'd be something very different in so many ways if it was designed around a 3rd person experience.

It would be different if it was designed around having both 1st and 3rd person as options.

If you want CP'77, you get 1st person or you get a different game.

The follow CP game is anyone's guess at this time. Different engine. Different team. Different hardware.

[BingusDingus]

I think there's room for a third person Cyberpunk game, it's just that CDPR went full on first person immersion early on in development of 2077 and they did a very good job.

They couldn't really retool 2077 to properly be third person due to the level design, there's too many cramped corridors, ledges, too much clutter that'd get in the way of the camera and so on.

I do agree however that a few 3rd person cutscenes would of been cool and entirely doable if they wanted.

[Doom Sayer]

Its complicated. Being able switch you can lose something since the world is usually designed around one or other. Also presents combat/camera issues in games. Its similar to aspect ratio issue in movies and tv where you cant just make it 16:9 for a around 4:3 ratio and vice versa since the content was designed to be framed for one or other. If both you probably lose something since creator had to make compromise on both. Not to be a ♥♥♥♥ but i think people should learn to adapt a little. This isnt 60 fps thing where objectively 240fps is better with no consequences outside technical errors.

Movie the lighthouse is good being a box aspect ratio, black and white and heavily noisy image. Art should be peak what it is supposed to be.
https://youtu.be/5qqLG-AjOTo

[wyodinosaur]

Personally, I do prefer the first-person perspective. It is much more immersive to me. I do have a mod which enables third-person perspective, but it is a little wonky at times.

[Blackheart]

I love it the way it is. I wouldn't appose to third person cutscenes (although I'm perfectly fine with current ones as well), but I wouldn't like them adding third person gameplay, because it would without a doubt affect the whole game and both perspectives would suffer for it. Focusing on one and making it right is always the better option and I dare say they did an amazing job here.

[valium]

First person is important with how they set up the set pieces and how the framing is done, and it is done extremely well. Instead of having a transition where you go from gameplay to conversation or cut-scene, it is all seamless.

[starlord1214]

Originally posted by Nar!:

I do love it being in first person, but I wouldn't mind having more cut scenes where I can see my character, or at the very least, see my character's reflection around windows and other reflective surfaces. :P

The first person view really is very immersive, especially when looking up at buildings. You can really sense the grand scale of Night city. Also, talking to characters feels more realistic when they're staring directly at me. Like Judy's gaze when we're having a deep convo.

Can't achieve that level of immersion in 3rd person. At least imho.

why cant they achive that level of immersion in 3rd person?

[valium]

Because it would take away a lot of the intimacy they were going for with a lot of the scenes.

[Bjørn]

I think people have different views on what immersion is to them.

To me it's realism. For example we see things in 1st person in real life, through our eyes. I do drive bikes and cars in 3rd person in this game, but I would never do that in truck- and flight sims, for example.

Other things that makes it realistic / immersive is to turn off the HUD, disable any 'photo-effects' like chromatic aberration, film grain, motion blur, lens flare and such (I do use lens flare in this game since it looks so good), and disable any sound effects and music that you wouldn't hear in real life, typically the music that changes depending on what you do (intensified during combat and quiet when exploring etc).

I always use 1st person if there is a choice, but when I played The Witcher 3 which doesn't have 1st person, I never really gave it any thought, as the experience was so good and immersive anyway.

[valium]

Immersion is not realism, at all. People get immersed in books, which have no graphics whatsoever. People get immersed with games made 30 years ago, with laughable graphics.

Immersion is engagement. If it has engaged you fully, you are immersed.