Don't turn cyberpunk into terminator/the matrix/mass effect

[Napoleonic S]

Please don't, don't make AI as the main antagonist or the big bad enemy that humanity must face in the future story, because for one, it has been overdone and two, I don't think it would fit with the theme of the setting.

Cyberpunk, and here I mean with this specific IP and not the subgenre of sci-fi, is about how humanity is dealing with artificial body parts and the encroachment of corporatie greed into the lives of everyone.

Turning this into humanity vs AI would be a betrayal of the story no matter how many players are intrigued with it.

I'm saying this after watching videos on speculations about who was behind songbird plan, and how it also has ties to a side quest in the base game and several other stories in the main story.

Even with me being intrigued with the possibility, in the end as I've said in the above, it would turn this IP into that other group of cliche.

[LeftIsBest-James]

CyberPunk: The core of cyberpunk is: "the City always wins in the end".
- Cyber: High-Tech
- Punk: Low-Life

Even with stories where there's a "happy-ending", it will always be bitter-sweet or uncertain-future/the-struggle-continues:
- elysium
- bladerunner
- alitaBattleAngel


Stories that have a purely happy ending are just SciFi with a 'cyberpunk aesthetic'.

[vile]

You know Pondsmith is heavily involved in writing these games, right? I don't think you get to tell Maximum Mike what his IP is or isn't.

[D43VA>_]

vile lähetti viestin:

You know Pondsmith is heavily involved in writing these games, right? I don't think you get to tell Maximum Mike what his IP is or isn't.

Came here to say this! If this game can successfully breathe new life into the concepts from Johnny Mnemonic and old-school spy thrillers, it can be done with the Machine War too! We should show good faith that Pondsmith et al are capable and competent. Excited for whatever comes next!

[Napoleonic S]

D43VA>_ lähetti viestin:

vile lähetti viestin:

You know Pondsmith is heavily involved in writing these games, right? I don't think you get to tell Maximum Mike what his IP is or isn't.

Came here to say this! If this game can successfully breathe new life into the concepts from Johnny Mnemonic and old-school spy thrillers, it can be done with the Machine War too! We should show good faith that Pondsmith et al are capable and competent. Excited for whatever comes next!

Yeah no, we've seen too many human vs machine war in the last 40 years of sci-fi (including from non American media), doubtful that anyone would create something new on that idea.

Besides as I said, it would change the narrative so much that it would feel like a separate world/lore/IP, and even more so with what we were being told by the game, that there are some unstoppable magic AI lurking somewhere... Where have we seen and heard that before? It's mass effect all over again...

Gameplay would also change so drastically if the premise changed so drastically, we would no longer deal with everyday human interactions anymore, instead it would be just another war filled world gameplay.

[vile]

Napoleonic S lähetti viestin:

there are some unstoppable magic AI lurking somewhere... Where have we seen and heard that before?

It's literally a core theme in the TTRPG. I don't think you understand Cyberpunk as much as you think you do. AIs have been in use since 2017 and specifically got very sinister during the Fourth Corporate War and the Datakrash. They're a huge part of the setting and lore.