Cyberpunk 2077

Cyberpunk 2077

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Whytry 2023 年 11 月 17 日 上午 7:04
This game would honestly be better without a main story..
So i need to get a chip out of my head and its VERY urgent.. so it would make sense to rush the main story to get it out.. but the game also wants me to do side quests which are honestly more fun.. but it would make no sense for V to want to do side quests when he doesnt have long left to live.. and you cant level up enough to utilise the skills in the game just from main story missions alone.. this just pulls me straight out of the immersion.

So here i am just learned that of a way that could help the chip problem.. and im following a woman around because a man thinks shes cheating.. then im going apartment shopping lmao.

also the phantom liberty stuff is confusing.. i thought it was something you get after finishing the game yet im getting quests for it now? so i do it now or after i finished? and does it matter? who knows...

game would be better if i was just a merc in night city trying to make a name for myself without this bs story.
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Graf Erik 2023 年 11 月 17 日 上午 11:33 
Without the main story? Without the main story the game would lack a purpose. A direction.
There are enough boring sandbox games out there.

But yeah, the 'ticking bomb' thing is a bit... stupid. They could have easily avoided the entire problem.
Its in fact not that Victor tells you that you have just a week to live, he says 'A few weeks tops'.
How many is a few? 2? 6? 20? 42?

What irks me is that they easily could have made that 'a few years tops'. Would have changed nothing, but would have removed that discrepancy between looking for a cure and becoming mma champion of Night City.

Its apparently a thing that writers like. Doom. Death. Drama. Even if fake. In BG3 you get infected with a mind flayer parasite and you'll turn into a tentacle monster within a Day! Two tops! (hint: you dont).
In Sykrim you have to stop that evil dragon before he destroys the entire mankind (hint: He wont. He'll happily wait for all eternity until you travel in his realm to fight him)

Oh, but the ingame reasonm why V does all that stuff is because he want to become a NIght City Legend. Major League baby!
Remember The Ride, when Dex asks you if you'd rather live to old age or go out young but as a legend?
The entire thing is pretty much: If you knew you just had a few weeks left, what would you do?
PanPan 2023 年 11 月 17 日 上午 11:43 
Na this game would honestly be better with NewGame+ and flying cars...
stbehre 2023 年 11 月 17 日 下午 12:33 
Time limits that are actually there are kind of a no go for most gamers - especially in open world games. So they tend to be very vague soft limits that are not even happening even if you try to.

And this is an old thing, too. The original Fallout had a hard limit of 120 days to find the water chip - and the main quest would actually fail if you waited that long. And even although 120 days were plenty to do side quests and still complete the main quest they upped it to 500 days in a patch and then later completely removed it in another. Because players couldn't stand it. It's the same here. An actual limit of 2-3 ingame weeks would not work with the majority of the player base.
Pixel_Killer_9000 2023 年 11 月 17 日 下午 1:03 
I think the main story is fine, it just needed better delivery and pacing. Instead of Victor telling you that you have 2-3 weeks, he should have said something more vague because he just doesn't know (he's never seen anything like this).

Victor, "Hey kid, I don't know how long you've got but you will need to do something about it before it wipes you. It could be a few weeks or a few months, I've never seen anything like this before. Sorry if I can't be more specific and good luck out there, you're gonna need it."

This more vague delivery would have left me feeling some sense of urgency to start looking for a cure while still giving me the room (pacing) to blaze a path to glory as a merc to be remembered. After all isn't it about how Night City will remember me?
fastanddanger 2023 年 11 月 17 日 下午 2:01 
Except those side quests and gigs are a way for V to gain allies and better cyberware, weapons, skills, etc for when it's time to choose the final path... Act 1 V would get instakilled trying to go the Reaper route, there would be no Aldecaldos, Hanako or NUSA options... just think of it as V gathering his/her strength and intel for the final push to save him/herself
Jouchebag 2023 年 11 月 17 日 下午 3:02 
kenshi has been on my wishlist for years...maybe this time

Yeah, winter sale is coming up fast. It really is the ultimate sandbox fantasy life simulator. Big ol' learning curve, lots of strangeness, and an entirely unique experience.
Nooneyouknow 2023 年 11 月 17 日 下午 3:14 
The side content is meant to be done when main questlines tell you to do go do something else for a time, or wait until someone calls. Those all used to be 24 hour+ timers, but half of them since 2.0 are like 4 hours instead.

Plus, you do understand NOT doing content is also a choice right? You're choosing to do 100% each time, instead of just what you come across.
Solaron 2023 年 11 月 17 日 下午 3:15 
There should have always been an option to stop Jackie from slamming the chip into the side of V's neck, and instead V tells Jackie to keep the chip. This results in Jackie dying.

Then a few quests later, suddenly Jackie rings V out of the blue. He's alive, the chip repaired him and Johnny Silverhand is in his head instead of V's.

Just imagine how epic that story would have been, to help Jackie solve his crisis, get to know your best friend better throughout the game, better character development, and finally a heartbreaking conclusion when it's realized that Johnny is fully taking over Jackie's body.
-Tr¡Ρ- 2023 年 11 月 17 日 下午 3:22 
Go play Outer Wilds if you want a time limit that actually matters.
Zoid13 2023 年 11 月 17 日 下午 4:35 
引用自 rWhytry
also the phantom liberty stuff is confusing.. i thought it was something you get after finishing the game yet im getting quests for it now? so i do it now or after i finished? and does it matter? who knows...
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Phantom Liberty is just an extra path in search of a solution to your problem (the chip) much like going with Takemura or the Aldecados. and it slots into the base games story.
its not an extension to the story its a padding out of the base story

i agree that it always stood out to me (more so in pre 20.0 when you constantly had chip headaches and collapsed at random intervals in normal play. now in 2.0+ it seems to be relegated to story progression scenes only.)
that it felt odd that you are constantly reminded that your times running out and you need a solution meanwhile your going out of your way to buy new apartments and do meaningless side jobs... but that's just games lol

you could look at it from the standpoint that if V is going out anyway hes/shes trying to make a name for herself to be remembered in night city by doing all these jobs and gaining a reputation.

as for having no story... i think my 400 hours+ of playing would be more like 10-20 hours.
without a great narrative id have lost interest long long ago.
the sandbox free-roam exploration is fun and i do like it a lot (i wish there was more of the citys internals fleshed out to explore!). like the militech HQ, the netwatch building, flesh out more of the mega-buildings, the arasaka waterfront, the giant night city jail, 'metal heaven music store' and the oh so many "locked doors" with nothing behind them, more BD's!
i also liked exploring a lot more when all the things i was finding was clothing and weaponry. the exploration is still fun but the reward of nonstop crafting components is kinda lame now lol

sad the game launched the way it did. cant imagine how big and how much content the game would be/have now if it didn't need 3 years of fixing first :P

but the story is what keeps me coming back for new play throughs.
最後修改者:Zoid13; 2023 年 11 月 17 日 下午 4:45
mcdcecil 2023 年 11 月 17 日 下午 5:18 
It is a game. I have played games for a Long time . This is a Great Game.
Sweets 2023 年 11 月 17 日 下午 5:25 
i agree its a little silly we take so long to save ourselves
mcdcecil 2023 年 11 月 17 日 下午 5:50 
There is only 1 that You can Save.
最後修改者:mcdcecil; 2023 年 11 月 17 日 下午 5:54
EJR 2023 年 11 月 17 日 下午 6:00 
This was one of my biggest critiques of the game. I love Cyberpunk 2077 but it was still a pain to acknowledge.

Viktor: "V, you only have a few months to live at most."
V: "♥♥♥♥!"
Also V: Can do gigs and just chill in the Badlands potentially for at least an in-game year

If they just said that V had a limited amount of time to live, not giving an exact or even estimate number, that would have been fine.

引用自 Tokenn
This game would just be another shooter-looter game without an involving main story. IMO the story and characters are the best part of the game. Some people don't want stories...I get it. What I don't get is why they buy story-driven games.
That's unfortunately how RPG games are now, I've noticed. The "roleplaying" aspect of RPGs is you playing a character that has a predetermined role to play in the railroaded story written for the game.
nullpo 2023 年 11 月 17 日 下午 6:46 
But what are you going to do without a main story? It will be just dystopian future GTA. Basically you mess with the cops, see how long you can last, and do it again. The main attraction of this game for me is the story. Uninstalled after completing it.
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