Phantom liberty and 1.7 features + news

[.Esík]

Some of you maybe know all of this, but here is list of new features that are CONFIRMED by game director of PL. If you have some time to spare and you love this game despide general hate, here you go:

1. CYBERWARE
Most core cyberware like gorilla arms, monowire, mantis.. are going to have unique abilities. For example, gorilla arms are finally going to be gorilla - you will be able to mega push enemy trough the whole room or wall itself. Also each cyberware will have in-menu short animation so you can exactly see what abilities do and how it looks like to use them, before you spend money or ability points to unlock them. Some cyberware will have some kind of animation when you decide to install it to your body. You will see how riperdoc install it, not only blank menu screen where you "equip" them. There is going to be limit to cyberware so you cant just now equip all legendary pieces to each body part and be terminator. You will have negative debuffs when you excend that limit, but it looks like there are ways to increase capacity of your maximal cyberware limit. Cyberpsychosis is NOT GOING TO BE part of the game, V cant get it and CDPR decided to honor this decision from original CP author.

There is also going to be completely new cyberware like new Kiroshi optics that will allow you to see trough wall, face mask that will allow you to shapeshift (like that girl in trailer) and more and more!

2. GRAPHICS, UI
Game will gain small graphics overhaul that will fix faces and textures of main characters and we may also get general better graphics. A lot of ingame UI will be moved, overhauled, changed. Your inventory, skill tree, maybe even phone itself will look different. HP bar and grenades will be changed too.

3. STORY AND ENDINGS
Phantom liberty will be separate story that will mostly be all in Dogtown discrict. BUT there will be small branches to and you will have quests in whole Night city. PL will have more endings like the base game have. It is recommended to start new save after DLC launch because ending what will you get in PL will also change some of the story of the base game and you can even have whole new ending to the base game (most likely happiest ending that game will ever have). You can continue your old save or skip to the DLC from menu without playing to the point when it unlock naturally (after you meet voodo boys in main story), BUT you will miss lot of new content and remakes to the main story because of it.

4. CARS, WEAPONS, STATS
There is going to be car and bike combat in the game. This will be part of the FREE patch 1.7. You will be able to use guns and melee weapons when driving and also some cars will have weapons attached to them (rocket launcher, machinegun etc). Also there are going to be A LOT of new weapons, you can even see some of them in new gameplay trailer or footages of PL provided by devs. Police system was changed and now it will be more like GTA series, where you start with 1 star up to 5 star where Maxtac going to hunt you.

Most clothes will now be just cosmetical with no armor value, maybe only sockets for improvements. All your armor and stats like this will come with cyberware you install to your body. There will be a few exceptions like ballistic vest or helmet that could give you extra armor.

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There is most likely going to be trendemous more of things but this is just from my head that i remember now. I am pretty sure all of the features are confirmed and not only speculations. Also sorry for my English i am not that good in it.

[Crimsomrider]

There is also a pretty extensive list on the official forums of all the things confirmed to be coming, so this might also help;

• LIST OF THE CONFIRMED IMPROVEMENTS OF PATCH 1.7 AND PHANTOM LIBERTY[forums.cdprojektred.com]

[John Warhammer]

Looking to be an awesome update.

I have this feeling that CDPR hired the guy who made the FGR mod. Which was a HUGE mod with mass adoration from the community - Total game changer. Then 1.5 landed and it no longer worked and he never released an updated version. Noting some of the gameplay updates coming to 1.7 I can't help but think that they hired him or something.

[Lola]

Thank you for all those info. I love this game to much and its keep being better and better. This game so unique about art and fiction. I hope more people can understand it. I never saw that much awesome art work in game market about cyberpunk style. Again thanks for all those info.
p.s. your english is great at least for me as a noob about english

[Arani]

Originally posted by Crimsomrider:

There is also a pretty extensive list on the official forums of all the things confirmed to be coming, so this might also help;

• LIST OF THE CONFIRMED IMPROVEMENTS OF PATCH 1.7 AND PHANTOM LIBERTY[forums.cdprojektred.com]

OP and this stuff here all sounds pog but I'd like some source on these. Lot of them just don't say anything, are conflicting, or lead to more questions. For example:

• New romantic moments and unlock new dialogues
  
  • Last I saw here the devs confirmed there will not be more romances and it was implied the existing ones won't be expanded on either. So is it a yes or a no?
• Radiant quests
  
  • As opposed to what? Purple Nightshade quests? What is a radiant quest? I'm not a fan of cool sounding names that just mean nothing :>
• Shapeshifting mask
  
  • Ok what does it do? Do you get new abilities? Or is it like an infiltration thing, an alternate way to play stealth? Or just cosmetic?
• The Relic option is now active
  
  • That's really nice... and what does it mean again?
• The pedestrians are mostly bug fixes
  
  • Sooo... like if we are experiencing a bug, there's a chance a pedestrian will come along and fix it? Or are there some glaring bugs with the pedestrians now that will be fixed (I haven't really noticed any, besides sometimes floating in air and doing their best to jump under my bike)?

I don't mean to be snide here, I just really don't understand what any of the above mean. But I mean all in all, this sounds really super pog! I'm ecstatic about getting to play it. :D

[grouchpotatodjb]

Im very happy they are changing clothing and armour will now mostly be through cyberware, hopefully the base of the armour will be a choice between a lighter less armoured one which allows better manoeuvrability, stealth, speed, and a heavy one that's more tanky but less manoeuvrability more inline with traditional rpg's.

[Arani]

I'm still holding out hope (futile, I know) that one day they will add 3:rd person as an option. I know they can't rework all dialogue, that's fine. But if at least we could play in 3:rd person outside of the dialogue. And I don't mean the mod with its shoulder issues. I mean a real, working, good 3:rd person. :>

[easy_going]

Those bulletpoints sound great until you realise that bulletpoints in base game also sound great, if presented with no "but".
For example 3 different origin stories for the main character. Sounds cool, right? Does it do anything in the game? No, it's shallow and was left in the game so it can make a great sounding bulletpoint.

It's one of my famous red flags- making good looking bulletpoints that don't guarantee that the changes are not shallow and superficial.

[Crimsomrider]

Originally posted by Arani:

-snip-

I personally cannot offer any sources because I haven't even watched the trailer for the expansion. Am avoiding all of the info as much as I possibly can, but was aware of the thread so felt like bringing awareness to it could help others who want more info ^^

Can answer about the radiant quests though. Radiant quests are basically never-ending repeatable quests which don't have any meaningful content in relation to the story. They're just there to provide players something to do as a sandbox experience.

I'm quite surprised CDPR decided to implement them because CDPR is always about quality content. But who knows, maybe they added some twist to them that makes them not feel shallow.

[Silverbane7]

Radiant quests is a term used back with Bethesda games.
They started it in Skyrim I think, added it to fallout 4 too.
I think it's supposed to mean flexible in away. Smarter perhaps? It's been a long time since I've heard that term, since everyone dropped that term for things like "branching" or "immersive" or "procedurally generated" ect lol. Now it's "ChatGP" or "AI generated" stuff.

The 'shapeshifting mask' thing looks to be an upgraded version of what we had back in the Cybergeneration days. It was called a 'Facer mask' a moldable flexible rubber like material mask that a particular juvegang called the 'Facers' used to use.
They were a poser gang. That is to say, a gang that used cyberware and body sculpting to look like other people.
You know how celebrities have folks who look like them, and those folks do jobs the real celebrities don't? Like having 4 different guys turn up on Hastings beach for the special event to see just how many pirates we can cram onto one beach....and each one looks, walks, talks and acts JUST like captain Jack Sparrow. (lol...even stagger, in one case XD)
It's a bit like that. Except the Facers took it to such an extreme they practically BECAME the person they were copying.
(Face dancers from Heretics of Dune, in other words)

The one in the trailers looks like a much more sturdy version of that, one that does not take 10 to 30 mins to mold into the correct face, and can instantly (almost) change at will. Might even have more than one preset.
(Want to bet, after it's done it's job for V, it will get destroyed, lol?)

[Arani]

Originally posted by easy_going:

Those bulletpoints sound great until you realise that bulletpoints in base game also sound great, if presented with no "but".
For example 3 different origin stories for the main character. Sounds cool, right? Does it do anything in the game? No, it's shallow and was left in the game so it can make a great sounding bulletpoint.

It's one of my famous red flags- making good looking bulletpoints that don't guarantee that the changes are not shallow and superficial.

Yeah but I mean, this happens in every game. I have never played a game where origin stories actually added anything of significant value. They're always brought up as something cool and revolutionary when really it's nothing but an exclusive 10 minute to 1 hour tiny quest in the start, and then 10 dialogues later in the game. Granted in CP's case it was more like 50+ dialogues later in the game, but still, they didn't really make much of a difference. Hardly a red flag when everyone does it, and no-one has any expectations of it.

But I do agree with the idea. It's kinda like Chinese entertainment with their fantastical names and lore, or the Japanese entertainment with their nice acronyms and screaming ability names whenever they do something: it's just nonsensical filler that exists to sound cool. Doesn't actually mean anything. All games will come out and have like a cool pet name for how their inventory works, or a nice acronym for a combat system. Or like product commercials love sticking random names like Ultra Night Plus, Velvet Sensation, Steel Blue or whatever. Apparently it works but after a while it just starts sounding ridiculous.

Give me facts, tell me how it actually works, what it does. It doesn't need to have a name I don't care about the name. Just let me know what difference - if any - it makes. :>

[EMT-Fields]

I'm just happy radiant quest are being added. I'll finally have stuff to do after completing everything on the map. Continuously beginning a new game, just to have stuff to do again, was getting old. I also hope they'll add a mini game like gwent. Hell just put in poker, that would be cool as well. Roach race is fun, but it gets stale.

[easy_going]

Originally posted by Arani:

"snip", as seen above :D

Not exactly what I meant. First of all, Cyberpunk offers a lot of shallow and barely functional mechanics that were presented as if they were the main selling point of the game. The fluid class system that CDPR had to completely scrap and build from scratch. Life Paths that pretty much don't bring anything to the table. Dialogue options that bring no consequences.

It's cool that we have a list of changes, but without any details they are meaningless. I know that there is 3 months left till the DLC release, but we are basically rehashing how CDPR misrepresented the base game. If I knew it will be buggy and unfinished, I'd just ignore it and wait 3 years.

[phoenixfabricio07]

All these thing is great, BUT I really hate the idea that I'll need to downgrade my graphics only to keep the framerate I already have in my playthrough. I Cant modify my PC for a long time yet....

[egg fu]

Originally posted by Arani:

Originally posted by Crimsomrider:

There is also a pretty extensive list on the official forums of all the things confirmed to be coming, so this might also help;

• LIST OF THE CONFIRMED IMPROVEMENTS OF PATCH 1.7 AND PHANTOM LIBERTY[forums.cdprojektred.com]

OP and this stuff here all sounds pog but I'd like some source on these. Lot of them just don't say anything, are conflicting, or lead to more questions. For example:

• New romantic moments and unlock new dialogues
  
  • Last I saw here the devs confirmed there will not be more romances and it was implied the existing ones won't be expanded on either. So is it a yes or a no?
• Radiant quests
  
  • As opposed to what? Purple Nightshade quests? What is a radiant quest? I'm not a fan of cool sounding names that just mean nothing :>
• Shapeshifting mask
  
  • Ok what does it do? Do you get new abilities? Or is it like an infiltration thing, an alternate way to play stealth? Or just cosmetic?
• The Relic option is now active
  
  • That's really nice... and what does it mean again?
• The pedestrians are mostly bug fixes
  
  • Sooo... like if we are experiencing a bug, there's a chance a pedestrian will come along and fix it? Or are there some glaring bugs with the pedestrians now that will be fixed (I haven't really noticed any, besides sometimes floating in air and doing their best to jump under my bike)?

I don't mean to be snide here, I just really don't understand what any of the above mean. But I mean all in all, this sounds really super pog! I'm ecstatic about getting to play it. :D

a lot of these are corroborated by journalists who got a hands-on preview. we should expect more info when the world tour starts kicking and the average fan can have the opportunity to see for themselves.

[.Esík]

Originally posted by spacefish:

Originally posted by Arani:

OP and this stuff here all sounds pog but I'd like some source on these. Lot of them just don't say anything, are conflicting, or lead to more questions. For example:

• New romantic moments and unlock new dialogues
  
  • Last I saw here the devs confirmed there will not be more romances and it was implied the existing ones won't be expanded on either. So is it a yes or a no?
• Radiant quests
  
  • As opposed to what? Purple Nightshade quests? What is a radiant quest? I'm not a fan of cool sounding names that just mean nothing :>
• Shapeshifting mask
  
  • Ok what does it do? Do you get new abilities? Or is it like an infiltration thing, an alternate way to play stealth? Or just cosmetic?
• The Relic option is now active
  
  • That's really nice... and what does it mean again?
• The pedestrians are mostly bug fixes
  
  • Sooo... like if we are experiencing a bug, there's a chance a pedestrian will come along and fix it? Or are there some glaring bugs with the pedestrians now that will be fixed (I haven't really noticed any, besides sometimes floating in air and doing their best to jump under my bike)?

I don't mean to be snide here, I just really don't understand what any of the above mean. But I mean all in all, this sounds really super pog! I'm ecstatic about getting to play it. :D

a lot of these are corroborated by journalists who got a hands-on preview. we should expect more info when the world tour starts kicking and the average fan can have the opportunity to see for themselves.

There will be NO NEW ROMANCE in DLC, they will only MAYBE expand Judy/Panam like new texts. Radiant quest are going to be some kind of infinite quest that you can do forever and make some money or XP .. probably some random clear area thingy thing. Nobody know what shapeshift mask do, they only confirmed that it will be new cyberware (most likely only for PL owners; i guess it will make enemy lost sight of you if you hide somewhere for moment). Relic option will be new skill tree. It will have only few "skills" each one will TRENDEMOUSLY upgrade your character. Skills there will unlock with special currency that will be only available in Dogtown, so this skill tree is only for PL owners. Pedestrians - they will not make new mechanics for them in patch 1.7 like daily rutines or something like that. They will only fix some bugs that you can see now ingame when you meet randomly people in city.

I hope this will answer all your questions. Everything here is CONFIRMED by devs themself and those things that i am unsure of, they are most likely to be that way.