Corpo V is the best V: Prove me wrong

[Jivebot]

Corpo has the best story arc. Street Kid and Nomad both have NO relationship with Jackie before the game. When Jackie dies they were only friends for six months. Boohoo. It takes away from the gravity from that moment.

Corpo V and Jackie have HISTORY. It's kept vague and that's a smart decision. But C-V and Jackie were already tight. Already trusted each other enough so that Jackie was always nagging C-V to get out of that Corpo-rat lifestyle. And when that lifestyle kicked C-V in the gut and stole everything from him...when that lifestyle left him with nothing to live for...Jackie was there to pick him up, dust him off, and put him back on the path.

That's TRUE friendship and it makes Jackie's fate all the more tragic. It makes the way V chokes up at the funeral that much more poignant. The one person in the city who was there for him when he was being the worst version of himself, and STILL there for him when he had nothing to offer is now gone. Now V has that much more to live up to.

C-V's background also makes the overall motivations of the character make more sense. C-V had it all, then lost it all in the blink of an eye. Unjustly stolen out from under him. So now he's gonna get it all back and this time he's going it on HIS terms and nobody elses. He's gonna do it in a way he'll be proud of and a way Jackie would have been proud of.

C-V has the best relationship with Jackie, the best story arc, and the best character motivations. C-V is the best way to play Cyberpunk.

All your counter arguments are invalid.

[Wander Wild]

Corpo V is also my favorite for the exact reasons given. It also makes his journey with Johnny more compelling, as being a former corporate dog (Jenkin's Boy/Girl).

[Jivebot]

Shame on me that I forgot to touch on that. YES!

It makes the whole odd-couple pairing of V and Johnny that much more ironic and amusing that of all the people who's skulls he could have landed in, Johnny lands in a former Arasaka troubleshooter. And you can believably play it either way...

The man who saw the worst of Corpo life from within and now wants to help Johnny tear it all down...

Or the man who recognizes the cold hard bitter reality of it being a dog-eat-dog system and he wants back into that system, so he can become the Alpha dog.

[Wander Wild]

Originally posted by Jivebot:

Shame on me that I forgot to touch on that. YES!

It makes the whole odd-couple pairing of V and Johnny that much more ironic and amusing that of all the people who's skulls he could have landed in, Johnny lands in a former Arasaka troubleshooter. And you can believably play it either way...

The man who saw the worst of Corpo life from within and now wants to help Johnny tear it all down...

Or the man who recognizes the cold hard bitter reality of it being a dog-eat-dog system and he wants back into that system, so he can become the Alpha dog.

Exactly! I actually wish that they explored this even more, but that would have been at the expense of the other origin stories, I would assume. There's a lot of baggage between the two of them that would have been amusing to dive into.

[OH! MY CAR]

Nomad

[Jivebot]

Too true. I love the game and think most of the hate directed toward is is waaaaaaaay overblown. Like, agenda-driven overblown.

But there's definitely legit complaints and lack of Lifepath-unique branches in quests and dialogue is among my top 3. Lack of third person mode, and lack of immersive/QOL features promised(Player Houses, Car/House/Cyberware customization/Rideable trains, etc) are my main ones.

That said, still better than most other games in the genre. WAY smoother launch than any Bethesda game ever gave me. And i'm confident most or all of those features will be put back in eventually. Maybe not third person though....sigh. they should never have wasted so much time and resources on pandering to last gen holdouts. That's why we didn't get the full experience we should have.

But yeah, a little more acknowledgment from Johnny that he somehow landed in the head of a freakin' Arasaka agent would have been MARVELOUS. And hilarious. And if they could end up friends in spite of that at the end...it would have been heartwarming.

[Jivebot]

Originally posted by OH! MY CAR:

Nomad

the only thing i'll say in favor of Nomad is that it does put a new spin on the Panam-relationship...the only relationship in the game worth a damn. But I wouldn't say it makes the Panam relationship better. Just different.

If anything once again there's so much more gravity in the idea of Corpo V choosing to leave everything behind and become a Nomad than there is in the Nomad....just continuing to be a Nomad.

That's a hell of a journey, from Corporate troubleshooter climbing up the ladder of elite success to...a nice cool evening around the camp fire with your tribe and your woman. That's a real story arc there. That's character development.

Meredith Stoudt could have been ALOT more interesting if she had been a full fledged romance and not just a one night stand. Especially for a Corpo V. Shame that wasn't more fleshed out too.

Nomad lifepath would have benefited greatly from more interactions with the Backers. To really flesh out what went wrong there. There's a datapad you find in the game that gives a broad stroke explanation of how the Backers fell apart but it would have benefited greatly from Nomad V being able to really talk about it with other Ex-Backers.

[Roderick]

I think they put the most thought in C-V, too. From the three life path, C-V has some of the best answers to get more intel, shorten some routes and even get more money out of some gigs.

[talemore]

Corpo V is mentioned to be street kid. So it is technically, street kid knowing Jackie, street kid not knowing Jackie and nomad not knowing Jackie.

[Wander Wild]

Originally posted by talemore:

Corpo V is mentioned to be street kid. So it is technically, street kid knowing Jackie, street kid not knowing Jackie and nomad not knowing Jackie.

Corpo V: Charter Hill is a relatively new and well maintained corporate district that was built from scratch during the Rebuilding period. It quickly became very popular among the upper class of Night City, this was before North Oak became hot within the next two decades.

Corpo V was raised in Charter Hill according to the lore! They leave it up to our imagination to determine how he and Jackie know each other. I wish there was more information on it. I like the idea that V has a streetkid parent and a corpo parent, making him a mash between the two.

[sol Invictus]

idk. Game doesn't run at 60 fps for me anymore on the lowest settings with the recommended specs lmao.

[Jivebot]

There is a comment that suggests Corpo V and Jackie primarily know each other from having worked a job together in the past. Presumably their relationship started there and developed over an uncertain amount of time.

But it's still left vague enough that you could say they knew each other before the job.

That's how I envision them. You all remember that quest with the food vendor who's sister went Corpo-rat and her delinquent friends are now constantly harassing him over it?

I see that as sort of what happened with Corp-V.

Like that vendor's sister, somewhere along the way V wanted more out of his life. He grew up in the streets of Night City, where he befriended Jackie. Eventually he managed to get noticed and get hired by Arasaka. And though most of his old friends turned their backs on him as a sellout Jackie didn't.

Or maybe Jackie sort of distanced himself and then that aforementioned job reunited them and rekindled their friendship. Jackie may not like Corpo-rats in general but that job proved to him that V was still a standup guy who could be counted on. And it doesn't hurt to be friendly with one of the few trustworthy Corpo-rats in the city, right?

And V was glad to have that ONE person in his life who wasn't trying to take his job, or screw him on a deal, or make him look bad in front of the boss. An odd couple friendship for sure, but a real friendship. And any doubt that it was real vanished when Jackie made it clear he was willing to go one-on-two with two Arasaka agents right there on the spot for his Choom.

Jackie/SK-V starts with Jackie screwing V. Six months later it's over. Whatevs.

Jackie/N-V starts with Jackie intending to screw V. Six months later it's over. Whatevs.

Only Jackie/C-V is a true friendship from start to tragic end. C-V is the only one Jackie helps when there's nothing in it for him. Which just makes Jackie that much cooler.

[Rabidnid]

Originally posted by Jivebot:

C-V has the best relationship with Jackie, the best story arc, and the best character motivations. C-V is the best way to play Cyberpunk.

True, but there is that side quest that you can only trigger the correct ending for by being a streetkid.

[Alex_x86]

This whole Jackie thing was quite stupid no matter what path you take.
The game is like: here is your best friend. I am like: ok. Few minutes later game tells you: Jackie died. And I am like: I don't give a damn. T-Bug was treated by the story writers even worse. If they wanted player to feel something after their death they definitely needed to make a better job on bonding the player with the characters. Imagine if in the very first Witcher Triss died during the Kaer Morhen attack, would you give a damn about it even game probably would say I should...

Honestly Dex has much better introduction and the impact than Bug, Jackie and his mother combined.

PS: If you take a nomad ending the best background is the nomad path since you kinda have a whole character arc: you are starting the game by loosing your "family", broken and aimless you smuggle something into the Night City and become a petty criminal and then during the game you are finding a new "family", you are helping them during their rough times, they are helping you as well when you need it and then you are smuggling a basilisk for them out of Night City and you are all driving into the sunset.

[PIT_DEFENDER]

Originally posted by Jivebot:

Corpo has the best story arc. Street Kid and Nomad both have NO relationship with Jackie before the game. When Jackie dies they were only friends for six months. Boohoo. It takes away from the gravity from that moment.

Corpo V and Jackie have HISTORY. It's kept vague and that's a smart decision. But C-V and Jackie were already tight. Already trusted each other enough so that Jackie was always nagging C-V to get out of that Corpo-rat lifestyle. And when that lifestyle kicked C-V in the gut and stole everything from him...when that lifestyle left him with nothing to live for...Jackie was there to pick him up, dust him off, and put him back on the path.

That's TRUE friendship and it makes Jackie's fate all the more tragic. It makes the way V chokes up at the funeral that much more poignant. The one person in the city who was there for him when he was being the worst version of himself, and STILL there for him when he had nothing to offer is now gone. Now V has that much more to live up to.

C-V's background also makes the overall motivations of the character make more sense. C-V had it all, then lost it all in the blink of an eye. Unjustly stolen out from under him. So now he's gonna get it all back and this time he's going it on HIS terms and nobody elses. He's gonna do it in a way he'll be proud of and a way Jackie would have been proud of.

C-V has the best relationship with Jackie, the best story arc, and the best character motivations. C-V is the best way to play Cyberpunk.

All your counter arguments are invalid.

Your face is invalid, for the first playthrough Noamd V is best cause she doesnt know the city just like you and it makes best fit for a player.

[Lerch Addams]

Originally posted by PIT_DEFENDER:

Your face is invalid...

burn!