Is Panam autistic?

[John Cena]

Carol says shes not good with her words. She is prone to emotional outbursts. Doesn't understand social queues. She has a very weird way of speaking compared to everyone else. She doesn't communicate well by her own admission.

Is she supposed to be autistic?

[Nxce]

Only if Judy is schizophrenic.

[John Cena]

Originally posted by drunk driver:

Only if Judy is schizophrenic.

Judy seems less schizophrenic than Panam tbh.

[Amanoob105]

As someone with aspergers (short version, we're the other end of the same spectrum from autism. They're the red end, we're the end everyone thinks is called purple) overall I'd say no.
If she is on the spectrum it's to such a minor degree that it's nothing worth mentioning or any more than most people could be found on it if you look enough.

I went though the game with her and even ended it with her (started Corpo, for those that care). Played that V as a sarcastic smartass and I she didn't seem to have any trouble picking up on my less than direct queues. For a military vehicle that tank was remarkably roomy on the inside .

My main argument would be from how she handles real stress however. For anyone on the spectrum stress is what makes whatever issues you got, no matter how well you may be able to hide and/or work around them come right to the front.

A mission that is part of the main quest line (which I'll try to keep light on spoilers).
The one where you need her help to get the guy who's flying. And mid mission goes wrong in a way that effects her VERY personally. A perfect example of peek stress.
Yes it upsets and angers her, but overall she stays much the same in regards to how the rest of the job goes.
Anyone on the spectrum, without turning this comment into a full blow essay, whatever mental safeguards we had in place to help us get though the day, yeah, they're basically gone at this point.
If you're going to be able to tell if they have autism, aspergers or anything else on that list this would be the best chance to spot it. Personally, I didn't see jack.

When you first meet her she's just a bit anti-social and out of practice dealing with other people is all. If you follow though her story arc even that goes away.

(This comment sounded shorter in my head .)

[asnjas19]

slow down jr. shes also one of the few loyal people you run into. she pays back her debt to you as promised by downing the av. She assists her clan members all throughout the game and even stays with you if you go down that story path.

Originally posted by Voodoojedizin:

Pam is an egotistical b**** who thinks the world revolves around her.
She's a disgusting human being who thinks what she wants should come before anything else. She blames her mistakes on everyone else, even though they're her mistakes she could have avoided them. The only people that like her are the ones that can't take their eyes off her backside because that's all she's got to offer.

[Amanoob105]

Originally posted by asnjas19:

slow down jr. shes also one of the few loyal people you run into. she pays back her debt to you as promised by downing the av. She assists her clan members all throughout the game and even stays with you if you go down that story path.

Yes, but she also has a fantastic backside. Voodoo was right about that part.

[catch22atplay]

Originally posted by asnjas19:

slow down jr. shes also one of the few loyal people you run into. she pays back her debt to you as promised by downing the av. She assists her clan members all throughout the game and even stays with you if you go down that story path.

Originally posted by Voodoojedizin:

Pam is an egotistical b**** who thinks the world revolves around her.
She's a disgusting human being who thinks what she wants should come before anything else. She blames her mistakes on everyone else, even though they're her mistakes she could have avoided them. The only people that like her are the ones that can't take their eyes off her backside because that's all she's got to offer.

Sadly i think i'm a lot like Pam. Well the egotistical me 1st part anyways. I don't blame anyone else as i take full responsibility. I help my family and friends neighbors as i can. So kinda like her helping the clan. So we're not purely selfish. Maybe that's why i like her i dunno. There are times i wish she were a mute though. Best body in game i think for my tastes. But autistic er no. Not by a long shot.

[𝕭𝖊𝖑𝖒𝖔𝖓𝖙]

Panam is HOT

[Tounca1994]

Panam is acoustic

[asnjas19]

Originally posted by Voodoojedizin:

Originally posted by asnjas19:

slow down jr. shes also one of the few loyal people you run into. she pays back her debt to you as promised by downing the av. She assists her clan members all throughout the game and even stays with you if you go down that story path.

Are you saying she's not selfish because all she does is whine about herself.
V tells you in the game that she's only helping you to show up rogue, that's in the conversation they have going down to the microwave tower.
The reason she's not in the clan anymore is because she wasn't getting her way, she wanted to do things her way. And what she does with her clan members has nothing to do with me. And her assistance to the clan is again for her own benefit, which she knows it isn't a good thing because she has to go behind a clan leader's back to do it.
Stop looking at her backside and look at her for what she is, selfish self-centered and the
B word!

Of course I am. Her assistance to the clan is selflessly rescuing what's his name from Kang Tao after the av and Saul from the wraith. She wants her way but it was about what's best for the clan and not her. Again, choose a certain ending and she doesn't bail because of your switch and goes all in on you. Kill yourself at the ending and she even gets mad you didn't call her for help.

[The Grin]

Originally posted by Voodoojedizin:

Pam is an egotistical b**** who thinks the world revolves around her.
She's a disgusting human being who thinks what she wants should come before anything else. She blames her mistakes on everyone else, even though they're her mistakes she could have avoided them. The only people that like her are the ones that can't take their eyes off her backside because that's all she's got to offer.

No this is Judy you are describing.
Panam is just a 10 yo girl in a woman's body, meaning a crybaby.

[valium]

Panam is opinionated and slightly self-centered. I would not say egotistical, she just thinks she is right when it comes to the future of the Aldecaldos and too stubborn to alter course. She also turned out to be right when Saul tried to sell them out to some corp.

[Duilf]

Cyberpunk 2077 individuals can't be properly judged from our context. At the point the game happens in they are ~100 years deep into a dystopian society. That means most people have trauma, and harsh living for 3-5 generations. I am talking synth-sirloin and bullet rain harsh living. Could you imagine growing up in a world where you, your parents, and grandparents never tasted farmed meat as it wasn't an option? What about a world were 20% of your class get killed, or starve before completing elementary school? Really think you would grow up the same there as you did here?

Panam has a rigid sense of justice in an unjust world. She is used to being screwed over by everyone outside her social circle. More over her social circle is trying to play things safe when she can see the vulture gathering overhead. If you think about these 3 tidbits when interacting with her everything makes sense. Is she perfect? Far from it. Is she a bad person? She is far removed from the worst Night City has to offer. When you meet her she directly needs her car back as it is one of her best tools to help her clan, and she assumes you want to scam that part out of the deal with her. Contextually at the end she gets upset because she is an all or nothing kind of girl, V chose nothing, and V managed to get close before doing so.

[The Yeen Queen]

Originally posted by Voodoojedizin:

Pam is an egotistical b**** who thinks the world revolves around her.
She's a disgusting human being who thinks what she wants should come before anything else. She blames her mistakes on everyone else, even though they're her mistakes she could have avoided them. The only people that like her are the ones that can't take their eyes off her backside because that's all she's got to offer.

Apparently you didn't play the same game as literally everybody else, because you kind of described the opposite of her.

[Nar!]

Originally posted by valium:

She also turned out to be right when Saul tried to sell them out to some corp.

Yeah. Biotechnica. The corps that was responsible for killing well over 70 Aldecado "guinea pigs", at the hands of the deranged Dr.Joanne Koch. They tried to bury that deep, but we unearthed the conspiracy and made sure the Aldecados got retribution for her devilish crimes.

Pan was right to reject Saul's deal with them.
Of course, he didn't know they were responsible for having Aldecados murdered.

[Stirk]

Originally posted by Duilf:

Cyberpunk 2077 individuals can't be properly judged from our context. At the point the game happens in they are ~100 years deep into a dystopian society. That means most people have trauma, and harsh living for 3-5 generations. I am talking synth-sirloin and bullet rain harsh living. Could you imagine growing up in a world where you, your parents, and grandparents never tasted farmed meat as it wasn't an option? What about a world were 20% of your class get killed, or starve before completing elementary school? Really think you would grow up the same there as you did here?

Panam has a rigid sense of justice in an unjust world. She is used to being screwed over by everyone outside her social circle. More over her social circle is trying to play things safe when she can see the vulture gathering overhead. If you think about these 3 tidbits when interacting with her everything makes sense. Is she perfect? Far from it. Is she a bad person? She is far removed from the worst Night City has to offer. When you meet her she directly needs her car back as it is one of her best tools to help her clan, and she assumes you want to scam that part out of the deal with her. Contextually at the end she gets upset because she is an all or nothing kind of girl, V chose nothing, and V managed to get close before doing so.

This is a very good comment.