For anyone who has seen the movie Johnny Mnemonic

[Monolith Brookshadow]

That's basically the story board of this game (and i love it). Minus the telepathic Dolphin (not joking) but especially if you start corpo.

I know there are differences but the similarities are amazing and I adore the fact Keanu is a lead in both.

[∞-dissolve-∞]

There's also a cool melee weapon that is inspired from the bad guy in that movie, the Monowire.

[jack_of_tears]

Oh yeah, Keanu's long history doing cyberpunk style movies made him perfectly fitted for this role.

And the monowire is my favorite mid-range melee weapon.

[Death Approaches]

yea I can see it... Henry Rollins aka Spider was a ripperdoc, and the Black Shakes, cyberpsychosis... sure I get it.

[Monolith Brookshadow]

Originally posted by -∞-dissolve-∞-:

There's also a cool melee weapon that is inspired from the bad guy in that movie, the Monowire.

Oh yeah! I forgot about that touch, you're right!

[Monolith Brookshadow]

Originally posted by Death Approaches:

yea I can see it... Henry Rollins aka Spider was a ripperdoc, and the Black Shakes, cyberpsychosis... sure I get it.

Heck yeah brother!

[Monolith Brookshadow]

Originally posted by jack_of_tears:

Oh yeah, Keanu's long history doing cyberpunk style movies made him perfectly fitted for this role.

And the monowire is my favorite mid-range melee weapon.

The realization just made me so dang happy ngl

[Sardukhar]

It's a short story, by William Gibson, who also wrote Neuromancer. Movie was an adaptation of the short story.

The monowire - and tech ninja like Oda, among other things- is in the short story and also in the Cyberpunk TTRPG that is the base for 2077. Neuromancer has cyberspace - where the term was invented - speedware, ICE, bioweapons, a digital construct that talks to the main character to "help him.

Worth a read. As well as Hardwired, by Walter Jon Williams. You might recognize some of the stuff in there, like sandevistan and a certain tank type...

[Nar!]

I haven't seen Johnny Mnemonic in so long. I need to pull it up soon. Another movie that shares similar visuals is Dredd. (the Megabuildings and mini van chase sequence). :)

@Sardukhar, I've been wanting to pick up Neuromancer. Gotta remember to slot that in my Amazon shop list.

[Mander]

Yeah, corpo V has more than one flavor of Johnny Mnemonic.
Especially the ambivalence between “doing the right thing” OR “I can get preem champagne out of it if I don’t”.
This part right here from Mnemonic, is Corpo 101:

“Listen. You listen to me. You see that city over there? THAT'S where I'm supposed to be. Not down here with the dogs, and the garbage, and the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ last month's newspapers blowing *back* and *forth*. I've had it with them, I've had it with you, I've had it with ALL THIS - *I want ROOM SERVICE*! I want the club sandwich, I want the cold Mexican beer, I want a $10,000-a-night hooker! I want my shirts laundered... like they do... at the Imperial Hotel... in Tokyo.”

And yes, Adam Smasher could be a expy of the Street Preacher, IF you squint a lot…
But in general, the story of Cyberpunk 2077 has very different tones.
Mnemonic, the movie at least, is jaded, but not that hopeless…
Night City and its settings are a much bleaker place.

[Silverbane7]

Originally posted by Mander:

Yeah, corpo V has more than one flavor of Johnny Mnemonic.
Especially the ambivalence between “doing the right thing” OR “I can get preem champagne out of it if I don’t”.
This part right here from Mnemonic, is Corpo 101:

“Listen. You listen to me. You see that city over there? THAT'S where I'm supposed to be. Not down here with the dogs, and the garbage, and the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ last month's newspapers blowing *back* and *forth*. I've had it with them, I've had it with you, I've had it with ALL THIS - *I want ROOM SERVICE*! I want the club sandwich, I want the cold Mexican beer, I want a $10,000-a-night hooker! I want my shirts laundered... like they do... at the Imperial Hotel... in Tokyo.”

And yes, Adam Smasher could be a expy of the Street Preacher, IF you squint a lot…
But in general, the story of Cyberpunk 2077 has very different tones.
Mnemonic, the movie at least, is jaded, but not that hopeless…
Night City and its settings are a much bleaker place.

Yeah.
Tbh, I think the nuke did it.
In 2020 we could hope. We could still dream. You could maybe make it big.
As a Rocker... as a Solo..... or even try to be a decent (non corrupt) cop. You could at least try.

But after the nuke (during the now non-canon 203X where everything went full MadMax lol) the cyberpunk world really went to sh#t much more than Mnemonic's world looked like.

Even a newb living out their backpack and sleeping in a coffin (cyberpunk's capsule hotel style bunkhouses) had a chance to make it in 2020...
Sure, most died trying lol.... But that was the fun of the (tabletop) game.

Feels like the (game) world got more ruthless.

Like every GM started using ALL the rules from 'Listen up, you primitive screwheads' instead of just using them to enhance the game when it truly matters... they are now using every hardline hardball trick in the '100 evil to-do list' to beat the player down.

When did it (games and tabletop) become about 'beating' the player?

[Mander]

Originally posted by Silverbane7:

Originally posted by Mander:

Yeah, corpo V has more than one flavor of Johnny Mnemonic.
Especially the ambivalence between “doing the right thing” OR “I can get preem champagne out of it if I don’t”.
This part right here from Mnemonic, is Corpo 101:

“Listen. You listen to me. You see that city over there? THAT'S where I'm supposed to be. Not down here with the dogs, and the garbage, and the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ last month's newspapers blowing *back* and *forth*. I've had it with them, I've had it with you, I've had it with ALL THIS - *I want ROOM SERVICE*! I want the club sandwich, I want the cold Mexican beer, I want a $10,000-a-night hooker! I want my shirts laundered... like they do... at the Imperial Hotel... in Tokyo.”

And yes, Adam Smasher could be a expy of the Street Preacher, IF you squint a lot…
But in general, the story of Cyberpunk 2077 has very different tones.
Mnemonic, the movie at least, is jaded, but not that hopeless…
Night City and its settings are a much bleaker place.

Yeah.
Tbh, I think the nuke did it.
In 2020 we could hope. We could still dream. You could maybe make it big.
As a Rocker... as a Solo..... or even try to be a decent (non corrupt) cop. You could at least try.

But after the nuke (during the now non-canon 203X where everything went full MadMax lol) the cyberpunk world really went to sh#t much more than Mnemonic's world looked like.

Even a newb living out their backpack and sleeping in a coffin (cyberpunk's capsule hotel style bunkhouses) had a chance to make it in 2020...
Sure, most died trying lol.... But that was the fun of the (tabletop) game.

Feels like the (game) world got more ruthless.

Like every GM started using ALL the rules from 'Listen up, you primitive screwheads' instead of just using them to enhance the game when it truly matters... they are now using every hardline hardball trick in the '100 evil to-do list' to beat the player down.

When did it (games and tabletop) become about 'beating' the player?

Imo, the DM actively trying to kill the players after they reach a certain level, is right in the ballpark of a Cyberpunk story...
Getting good is no excuse to rest on your laurels, and also makes all fleeting moments with your crew so much more precious.
The true kernel of hopelessness we’ve in this Cyberpunk world imo, is the OPness of corporations: they already have done everything, and no one of them ever truly paid the price for the consequences of their action.
To truly change the cyberpunk world, being a top solo, a rocker world renowned, a techie with a solution to world hunger, or a netrunner able to breach the Blackwall isn’t enough anymore: you’ve to create a movement of “freedom fighters”/terrorists with a PR department at the top of their game and begin cutting CEO’s heads off.
Anything less imo, wouldn’t be enough to bring hope back to the masses.

[Monolith Brookshadow]

Originally posted by Sardukhar:

It's a short story, by William Gibson, who also wrote Neuromancer. Movie was an adaptation of the short story.

The monowire - and tech ninja like Oda, among other things- is in the short story and also in the Cyberpunk TTRPG that is the base for 2077. Neuromancer has cyberspace - where the term was invented - speedware, ICE, bioweapons, a digital construct that talks to the main character to "help him.

Worth a read. As well as Hardwired, by Walter Jon Williams. You might recognize some of the stuff in there, like sandevistan and a certain tank type...

I didn't have enough points to give the "take my points" award so i gave clever! Thank you for the recommendations!

[Monolith Brookshadow]

Originally posted by Nar!:

I haven't seen Johnny Mnemonic in so long. I need to pull it up soon. Another movie that shares similar visuals is Dredd. (the Megabuildings and mini van chase sequence). :)

@Sardukhar, I've been wanting to pick up Neuromancer. Gotta remember to slot that in my Amazon shop list.

Dredd was amazing and way more faithful to the source than the og movie. Don't get me wrong i loved it too, but Dredd takes the cake

[Monolith Brookshadow]

Originally posted by Mander:

Yeah, corpo V has more than one flavor of Johnny Mnemonic.
Especially the ambivalence between “doing the right thing” OR “I can get preem champagne out of it if I don’t”.
This part right here from Mnemonic, is Corpo 101:

“Listen. You listen to me. You see that city over there? THAT'S where I'm supposed to be. Not down here with the dogs, and the garbage, and the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ last month's newspapers blowing *back* and *forth*. I've had it with them, I've had it with you, I've had it with ALL THIS - *I want ROOM SERVICE*! I want the club sandwich, I want the cold Mexican beer, I want a $10,000-a-night hooker! I want my shirts laundered... like they do... at the Imperial Hotel... in Tokyo.”

And yes, Adam Smasher could be a expy of the Street Preacher, IF you squint a lot…
But in general, the story of Cyberpunk 2077 has very different tones.
Mnemonic, the movie at least, is jaded, but not that hopeless…
Night City and its settings are a much bleaker place.

I agree with everything here! It's not a 1:1 for sure but there are similarities I just couldn't look passed and i loved seeing them.

Lmfao "If you squint a lot" is wild.

Yeah NIght City is pretty dang hopeless. I think the spin off show they did , did a great job of displaying that as well.

[UFO]

You guys need to see "Nemesis" (from '92, not the newer one). Flawed but still ticks a bunch of Cyberpunk trope boxes and manages to be heaps of fun. Chromed out maniacs in trenchcoats and mirror shades going full auto with an SMG in each fist, it's gloriously silly.

Originally posted by Sardukhar:

Worth a read. As well as Hardwired, by Walter Jon Williams. You might recognize some of the stuff in there, like sandevistan and a certain tank type...

Only thing I really miss in CP77 - a proper, balls to the wall panzer smuggling run with security subcontractors/"privateers" trying to hunt you down. Hardwired sure isn't the perfect novel but man, it does have some awesome moments...

I love the little reference in the "spellbound" mission - as you get the contact info from Nix and pull up the phone to set up the deal it's basically "V, call R3n0" :-D