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RobidyBobidy Dec 19, 2020 @ 12:01pm
So ... What was the point of Alt Cunningham?
I just finished the game, and I was happy at first... But as I started to reflect on everything, I realized a lot of sh*t was weird.

1) After going through all the trouble and killing the VDB's to see Alt, the story suggests she's going to be a big help with Arasaka... but then she NEVER pops up again. WTF?????

2) Also, is there an ending where Johnny is actually happy with you?
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Nemesis Dec 19, 2020 @ 12:02pm 
Originally posted by RobidyBobidy:
I just finished the game, and I was happy at first... But as I started to reflect on everything, I realized a lot of sh*t was weird.

1) After going through all the trouble and killing the VDB's to see Alt, the story suggests she's going to be a big help with Arasaka... but then she NEVER pops up again. WTF?????

2) Also, is there an ending where Johnny is actually happy with you?
The game is missing half its content. You can tell form the beginning montage of the game with jackie a ♥♥♥♥ ton of content was cut.
Last edited by Nemesis; Dec 19, 2020 @ 12:02pm
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Josko Dec 19, 2020 @ 12:03pm 
If you choose the Option to let Johnny take over instead, you will see alt in the end. Johnny seems most happy with you in this option.
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finbar Dec 19, 2020 @ 12:03pm 
did you even finnish the game? she is the one who splits you two apart... thats here standing there in the end between the bridge and the well
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Mansen Dec 19, 2020 @ 12:04pm 
Unless you side with Arasaka, then Alt is central and key to the ending. Sounds like you picked the "wrong" ending for her to be able to help.
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ABCmouse.com Dec 19, 2020 @ 12:05pm 
If you let johnny do his thing she's pretty integral
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Cyberblonde Dec 19, 2020 @ 12:07pm 
the whole story is questionable. whatever you do. you are gone sooner or later
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Gatchapod Dec 19, 2020 @ 12:12pm 
Alt says it: Unless you physically access Mikoshi, she can't do anything.
There's black ICE that will wipe her if she as much as attempts to interact with it. Her name specifically. Several layers of extremely lethal software.

This is why you don't see her until you actually access Mikoshi.
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Mad Max Dec 19, 2020 @ 12:18pm 
I felt bad for Johnny, but he's dead and has been dead for over 50 years.

Giving what is essentially a ghost possession of your body just doesn't seem right.

Johnny had his time.
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Jotun Dec 19, 2020 @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by witz:
the whole story is questionable. whatever you do. you are gone sooner or later

Like everyone. What matters is how do you live what's left or your life? And is the price of survival worth it (basically being stuck in the matrix, potentially forever).

Alt appears in the nomad ending too and gives you a choice there.
Last edited by Jotun; Dec 19, 2020 @ 12:22pm
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Jotun Dec 19, 2020 @ 12:25pm 
Originally posted by Max the Grape:
I felt bad for Johnny, but he's dead and has been dead for over 50 years.

Giving what is essentially a ghost possession of your body just doesn't seem right.

Johnny had his time.

And through you he can tie some lose ends: settling the score with Smasher, be at peace with the whole rogue thing, help Kerry, potentially eff up Arasaka (and Saburo for good), become one with the love of his life (sort of) and in the end, becoming just a better person... Not too shabby for a dead man!
Last edited by Jotun; Dec 19, 2020 @ 12:25pm
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J4MESOX4D Dec 19, 2020 @ 12:26pm 
Originally posted by Flex Luger:
Originally posted by RobidyBobidy:
I just finished the game, and I was happy at first... But as I started to reflect on everything, I realized a lot of sh*t was weird.

1) After going through all the trouble and killing the VDB's to see Alt, the story suggests she's going to be a big help with Arasaka... but then she NEVER pops up again. WTF?????

2) Also, is there an ending where Johnny is actually happy with you?
The game is missing half its content. You can tell form the beginning montage of the game with jackie a ♥♥♥♥ ton of content was cut.
That montage was shown in the marketing ages ago and they gave the impression that it was all part of the actual gameplay. I think it's absurd that you play the opening lifepath mission, meet this random guy and then after a 45 second video of nonsense, we're then have to believe that this guy is our best buddy and then you get thrown into the deep end of the story. It really is missing that key part of the narrative where you arrive in the city and then become more established. I would've happily seen a chunk removed from the story for a proper prologue.
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RobidyBobidy Dec 19, 2020 @ 6:37pm 
Damn. I must've blinked. From what I saw, I had no choice but to go see Hanako and agree to help her with her bro to get help with Johnny. From that point on, it was all stream-lined choices.
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zacharyb Dec 19, 2020 @ 6:42pm 
Originally posted by RobidyBobidy:
Damn. I must've blinked. From what I saw, I had no choice but to go see Hanako and agree to help her with her bro to get help with Johnny. From that point on, it was all stream-lined choices.

You didn't do a lot of the side content then, I believe the Arasaka ending is the "Main" ending/basic ending if you don't do side content.

Also OP in my ending Johnny seemed pretty happy with me, he wanted me to keep my body and didn't even try to steal it, and he seemed to have been pretty disappointed when Alt said V was still going to die in 6 months or so. I tried the choice of giving him my body and he tried to persuade me not to and then gave me a brotherly seeming handshake and during the epilogue felt really bad about V sacrificing himself for him.
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Markralf Dec 19, 2020 @ 6:46pm 
Originally posted by RobidyBobidy:
Damn. I must've blinked. From what I saw, I had no choice but to go see Hanako and agree to help her with her bro to get help with Johnny. From that point on, it was all stream-lined choices.

You can actually disagree with her and set various options:

If you complete the Rogue-Johnny side, you can team up with Rogue letting Johnny possess your body one more time and go on all out againsta Arasaka.

If you complete the Panam side, you can team up with the Aldecaldo's and go in all out with them against Arasaka.

If you have a good relation with Johnny (I think 50% or more) You can unlock a secret ending where Johnny proposes you to assault Arasaka on our own and alone, you can die here and there is a cutscene, or you can win and go for the "good ending" of the secret path.
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zacharyb Dec 19, 2020 @ 6:47pm 
Originally posted by Markralf:
Originally posted by RobidyBobidy:
Damn. I must've blinked. From what I saw, I had no choice but to go see Hanako and agree to help her with her bro to get help with Johnny. From that point on, it was all stream-lined choices.

You can actually disagree with her and set various options:

If you complete the Rogue-Johnny side, you can team up with Rogue letting Johnny possess your body one more time and go on all out againsta Arasaka.

If you complete the Panam side, you can team up with the Aldecaldo's and go in all out with them against Arasaka.

If you have a good relation with Johnny (I think 50% or more) You can unlock a secret ending where Johnny proposes you to assault Arasaka on our own and alone, you can die here and there is a cutscene, or you can win and go for the "good ending" of the secret path.

Supposedly it has to be 70% or more. There's also the option of suicide.
Last edited by zacharyb; Dec 19, 2020 @ 6:47pm
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