Is path tracing worth it?

[Sassanid]

As you can see in these videos I took, turning on PT costs me around 30-40fps. Is it really worth it and does it make much of a difference overall in your opinion?

Am I blind or can anyone see differences?

https://vimeo.com/937975747?share=copy
https://vimeo.com/937979347?share=copy

[AstroFox]

Totally worth it if your PC can handle it, I wish mine could but RT Ultra is also very nice

[aseinsha]

Personal choice but yes I definitely like the realistic lighting.

Parcham balast.

[Sylph]

if you like high fps then no

[Sassanid]

İlk olarak aseinsha tarafından gönderildi:

Personal choice but yes I definitely like the realistic lighting.

Parcham balast.

Chakerim dadash

[envirovore]

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İlk olarak Fret 𐎣𐎡𐎠𐎵𐎡 tarafından gönderildi:

As you can see in these videos I took, turning on PT costs me around 30-40fps. Is it really worth it and does it make much of a difference overall in your opinion?

Am I blind or can anyone see differences?

https://vimeo.com/937975747?share=copy
https://vimeo.com/937979347?share=copy

Without an RTX 4090, I'd not bother at all. 4090 grants me 80-45 fps.

RT+PT+RR+DLSS is awesome.

PT over-rides RT+Raster.
PT/RT also over ride Ultra/Psycho SSR, and sets SSR to High internally even if you select Ultra/Psycho SSR with PT/RT.

[Phynrae]

I'm going with no, because i find it makes the game run less stable.

[Vox Maximus]

İlk olarak Phynrae tarafından gönderildi:

I'm going with no, because i find it makes the game run less stable.

100+ hours without a single crash.

[CT-99 STRIKER]

Its a matter of wanting high framerate and most importantly SMOOTH FRAMETIME versus wanting extra eye candy but with a huge hit on your framerate/frametime.

I used to use RT Pyscho and yeah there is some neat visual treats, than PT even more but with new changes with each update, dogtown and so on, the game got heavier to run overall. I dropped RT to just go for gaming with the ALL of the non rt settings cranked to MAX at 1440p and i don't regret it. I just went from 108-ish avg to 189 avg no matter wich zone i'm on.

Sure i can notice to some degree the RT goodness but to be brutally honest, non RT settings all max, the game looks on its own gorgeous all across the board. So again, FPS + SMOOTHNESS > RT/PT.

[Phynrae]

İlk olarak Vox Maximus tarafından gönderildi:

100+ hours without a single crash.

It's not really crashes, it's glitches.

If i enable PT, then things start getting a little wonky after a couple of houers of playtime, there's a higher chance i'll see pedestrians not animating, cars stopping in the middle of the road, little glitchy things like that.

If i leave PT/RT off, then i can play for perhabs 6 or 7 houers before the wonkyness starts to set in.

[harisenvin]

4080/4090 yes. any other card no. the performance cut is too steep to justify it.

content creators even made mods for lesser cards to make the game look even remotely close to path traced graphics and lock it on a patreon paywall and people still flock to them.

[Sassanid]

İlk olarak CT-99 SHADOW tarafından gönderildi:

Its a matter of wanting high framerate and most importantly SMOOTH FRAMETIME versus wanting extra eye candy but with a huge hit on your framerate/frametime.

I used to use RT Pyscho and yeah there is some neat visual treats, than PT even more but with new changes with each update, dogtown and so on, the game got heavier to run overall. I dropped RT to just go for gaming with the ALL of the non rt settings cranked to MAX at 1440p and i don't regret it. I just went from 108-ish avg to 189 avg no matter wich zone i'm on.

Sure i can notice to some degree the RT goodness but to be brutally honest, non RT settings all max, the game looks on its own gorgeous all across the board. So again, FPS + SMOOTHNESS > RT/PT.

This is EXACTLY what I'm going through with CP2077.

When I have everything maxed out at 1440p with PT on, my game always runs above 60fps, usually ranging around 60-80fps, but never truly feels super smooth like when PT is off.

I've decided that I'm going to continue playing with everything on, including PT, but if I enter a fight scene or section where I can feel PT is reducing the smoothness of the game, I'll turn it off and restart that checkpoint because it doesn't mater how good a game looks, it's pointless if it's at the expense of a smooth and fun experience ESPECIALLY in combat sections where it's more about reactions and smooth gameplay and those small lighting differences from PT won't even be noticeable in fights.

So for walking around and just exploring and enjoying Night City, I leave it on, for fights I turn it off for the extra smoothness.

In an ideal world we would all have 4090s and never have to compromise with things like this but alas.

[Sassanid]

BTW guys, just wanted to point out that I have an almost $2000 gaming PC, 3080ti, m.2, 10700k, etc, but I wouldn't be able to play CP with everything on max, including PT, if it wasn't for the FSR3 mod for CP. That mod alone made my game go from around 30fps with everything on max, to around 60-80fps with the same settings, because it allows non 4090 cards to use frame generation.

Also the RT/PT stutter fix mod is installed so maybe that's helping too. Defintiely recommend these two mods.

FSR3 mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/738
RT/PT stutter fix mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/10490

[Vox Maximus]

İlk olarak CT-99 SHADOW tarafından gönderildi:

Its a matter of wanting high framerate and most importantly SMOOTH FRAMETIME versus wanting extra eye candy but with a huge hit on your framerate/frametime.

I used to use RT Pyscho and yeah there is some neat visual treats, than PT even more but with new changes with each update, dogtown and so on, the game got heavier to run overall. I dropped RT to just go for gaming with the ALL of the non rt settings cranked to MAX at 1440p and i don't regret it. I just went from 108-ish avg to 189 avg no matter wich zone i'm on.

Sure i can notice to some degree the RT goodness but to be brutally honest, non RT settings all max, the game looks on its own gorgeous all across the board. So again, FPS + SMOOTHNESS > RT/PT.

108 avg to 189 avg in a single player game? lmfao

[Sassanid]

İlk olarak Vox Maximus tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak CT-99 SHADOW tarafından gönderildi:

Its a matter of wanting high framerate and most importantly SMOOTH FRAMETIME versus wanting extra eye candy but with a huge hit on your framerate/frametime.

I used to use RT Pyscho and yeah there is some neat visual treats, than PT even more but with new changes with each update, dogtown and so on, the game got heavier to run overall. I dropped RT to just go for gaming with the ALL of the non rt settings cranked to MAX at 1440p and i don't regret it. I just went from 108-ish avg to 189 avg no matter wich zone i'm on.

Sure i can notice to some degree the RT goodness but to be brutally honest, non RT settings all max, the game looks on its own gorgeous all across the board. So again, FPS + SMOOTHNESS > RT/PT.

108 avg to 189 avg in a single player game? lmfao

It's not that black and white. You have to play both and then you'd feel the minute difference he's talking about.

In the first videos I posted you can see that even with RT&PT on, I still get over 60fps, but in hectic battles, things still don't feel as smooth and seamless as when they're both off. So just because you see 60fps or 80fps in a video game, doesn't mean it will feel perfect and smooth.

[Vox Maximus]

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İlk olarak Vox Maximus tarafından gönderildi:

108 avg to 189 avg in a single player game? lmfao

It's not that black and white. You have to play both and then you'd feel the minute difference he's talking about.

I played both.

Any day, any time, any sane person would choose PT and 70 FPS instead of raster and 180 FPS in a single player game.