Explain netrunner/stealth or combat build too me and why its fun

[Buurt]

I reset my lvl 60 character to a hack build just to try it out, maybe it wasn't the best idea to start hacking on a max level character instead of starting by 1.

But I just can't get into it or understand it, when trying to be hack + stealth without using another weapon it end up you getting caught 90% of the time or you still have to use a silent pistol or something like that.
Which hacks or which overall would be good for silent hacking etc. ? I was trying some pistol + Sniper + hacks build but even with int 20 + every perk in that build it felt like the hacks where underperforming and it would be just faster to go in with the pistol.

And what do you do as hacking + full combat ? are hacking still spreading alot and stuff like that ?

Soo how can you make hacking and netrunning fun in cyberpunk without using other things way to much with it or atleast which weapons would you use with it (besides smart weapons).

After 400 hours without hacking once I really wanna do a hacking playthrough but I feels like I am missing or not understanding something about that.

How often do chain hacks happen and stuff like that, I tried it now and it happend once for me...

[Cyber Barbarian]

I think you need upgraded quickhacks and cyberware even if you have the skills. Just like how you don't use tier 1 weapons. So that might be why it was underperforming for you.

I've never been a stealth enjoyer but I like going through cameras and luring enemies into exploding barrels from a hiding spot. Then when the fight starts, the best thing about quickhacks is that they're quick, so you can fight like normal but fire out some helpful quickhacks just before you reload. Hacking turrets and vehicles is really fun too.

[mistahbungle]

Stealthy pistols & quckhacks & that's it...

[AstroFox]

You want to use System Collapse hack

[AstroFox]

And honestly its the best to start a new game. Try every hack that you come across to see which ones suit your playstyle the most, try different cyberdecks as they have different bonuses. Get cyberware that will boost the number of your hacking memory and recovery rate.
Progressing your character into better and better netrunner will be much nicer experience than starting from level 60 and basically already being on the top

[Mordaedil]

If you don't start over, you won't have the best hacks because you haven't been hacking the terminals that can give you the iconic hacks that make them more feasible.

[Bloodartist]

I also never really got to trying a netrunner build until my current (4th) playthrough.

I also think its nigh impossible to be enjoyable at the highest difficulty, since it relies mostly on oneshotting enemies with synapse burnout. If you dont oneshot them, a trace starts to pinpoint your location, and there is no way to interrupt that unless every mob in the encounter is dead. So if you fail to kill one mob, you are suddenly on timer to kill EVERYONE or you lose your stealth. It would be far better if the trace was tied to a single enemy that you could take out, but it isn't. The trace just sort of exists.

I dont think oneshotting anything other than the weakest enemies is possible at the top difficulty. This basically turns every encounter into an annoying slog where it feels like you always fail (because you couldnt kill them in time).
At lower difficulties on the other hand the build can quickly turn into easymode.

I dont really know. I like the idea of being a netrunner, but what does one find enjoyable? Its up to you to decide. I tried it at top difficulty first, but ended up lowering it one notch because it was just so un-fun. Currently lvl 38-39 with nearly maxed netrunner trees. I dont have the legendary cyberdeck yet though.

[Vyss A'lare]

It's called sonic shock people. Just finished my "netrunner" game and it's pretty strong but relies heavily on cyberware to make it truly viable. I prefer the deck with + ram as that gets both insane amounts when upgraded to ++ (12 extra I believe) and does increased damage with combat hacks if followed by a non-combat. With that + iconic sonic shock you can combo normal enemies with overheat+shock for about 11 ram. Since I have like 45 ram and a cyberware that recharges 45% when I get low on a super short cooldown it's pretty nutty.

I don't get the whole mono fight style though. You get a ♥♥♥♥ ton of points in the end so why limit yourself to one type? I went assault rifles as well and put a heat mod with burn chance on it. Toss a couple contagions into a pack and then go to town. Explosions everywhere. This combos well with the detonate grenade hack since explosions make it cheaper to us. There are so so many ways to use hacks in this game to support any playstyle.

The fact people still complain that it's impossible to play a sole netrunner build is laughable. Love getting into encounters and starting the fight by cyberpsychoing a few elites. Helped with the PL missions a ton. Tracing can suck if you don't know how to actually play runner so just learn how to play I guess. It's funny as hell when you sonic shock the weaklings and then snipe them all in the middle of their buddies and no one cares.

It should also be mentioned that suicide spam on bosses when comboed with guns is pretty sick. Can act like a stun so you can just stand next to them spamming headshots in.

System shock has been amazing with the ability to take-down two targets simultaneously and overall netrunning helps stealth builds an insane amount. Combo it with auto-cloak on crouched sprint and nobody sees you.

[Bogmore]

Using low level hacks and cyberdeck doesn't work well, it only gets good when you get the epic (pink) hacks and fully update your cyberdeck.

[EricHVela]

I think the responses are correct.

It's a paradox when trying to respec this way. You don't have the experience to play the build, but you can't get what you need to play the build by trying to play the build the way it's intended until you have what you need for it which puts the build at a disadvantage until then without learning how to actually play the build efficiently before finally being able to play the build with the right stuff to do it.

[Xengre]

I'll just quote my recent post elsewhere here:

Originally posted by Xengre:

Or... You can get the hacking Overclock perk, get the cyberware that auto heals you when too low and the one that revives you as insurance, and the perks that cause hacks to recover HP and then spam System Collapse on everyone.

Make it even more absurd by using the Raven Deck (the spread is actually very important otherwise the AoE chance is worthless from the perk, alone, need both) and the spread effect and now you will frequently spread System collapse a very considerable distance and can take out entire bases of enemies non-lethal in like 5 seconds. GG you win.

There are a bunch of other methods for easy auto-win group wide annihilation, too, but for entirely remote that is your best option except the basically pointlessly too late to matter Blackwall Gateway super hack.

There is sonic shock as an option, too, but I find that completely pointless effort with how broken the prior method mentioned is.

You can also try a crit Contagion spreading build and just let it kill everyone before they discover you.

You can also deafen people and kill them, blind people with the spread blind effect and kill groups very fast, use the slow-mo and shoot them with a pistol (pistols vastly trump throwing weapons once you find the right guns Nue/Tamayura until you get Death and Taxes which is without question the most powerful gun in the game against most enemy types, there are some robot exceptions like the spider boss). Of course, you need none of this really if you just abuse the setup I mentioned above involving System Collapse.

For the few enemies completely immune to System collapse you can use Cripple Movement and disable Cyberware while sneaking behind them to stealth grab.

The DLC has a very early perk in the new skill tree that immediately removes you out of combat when you cloak and calms the enemies back down which is, frankly, a bit too busted once you get used to using it if you are being a bit reckless just to speed through (basically irrelevant with the first method mentioned since everyone just collapses in the area, but for any other setup...). Also cloak and this can make some bosses a lot easier to stealth sneak up on, though you may have to hide briefly out of site until their awareness drops for said bosses unlike normal enemies which instantly deescalate. This can also be amusing with a Contagion build because if you do get discovered they just get reset by camo.

Note that some of the highest tier (legendary that is) hacks are bugged like, iirc, the System Collapse refund effect. Most legendary hacks have at least one or more bug so... either look into it or stick to the tier before that. Some of the bugs are also really extreme like doing the literal opposite of what it should or other bizzareness.