Opposite Experience?

[evancampbell]

For the most part I've avoided everything about this game, want to experience it on my own, but I did read some suggestions/beginner tips that said the first few main missions can be difficult so do some side missions & explore

I've had no issue with main missions, been quite easy. But I'm getting destroyed in the open world/side content. 1st Cyberpsycho is an invisible electric lady that tanks multiple SMG clips & deletes me in seconds. I get in my car & instantly get ran into, go into combat with 3 cars surrounding me & cops on my ass while I'm trying to figure out the controls to drive & shoot still.

I'm enjoying the main game, gonna keep on it & level through main missions for a bit. Just curious why my experience seems opposite from what I read?

I'm a Nomad focusing on Reflexes (SMG's) and Body, some Int/Tech/Cool on the side. Try to stealth until I get caught/alert people then switch to SMG FPS mode

[It Hertz When IP]

Sorry to get hung up on one detail but do you mean you just get into a car in randomly and people just aggressively ram into you? Because unless you're in combat and/or a terrible driver that shouldn't happen.

As for super psychos IIRC there is no "first" one (i did beat them all a loooong time ago so apologizes if I'm wrong) it's just whichever one you encounter first. But the general rule of thumb for this game is the same as any open world game, "if something is too hard go do other stuff to level up more then come back."

[Zero McDol]

Originally posted by It Hertz When IP:

Sorry to get hung up on one detail but do you mean you just get into a car in randomly and people just aggressively ram into you? Because unless you're in combat and/or a terrible driver that shouldn't happen.

As for super psychos IIRC there is no "first" one (i did beat them all a loooong time ago so apologizes if I'm wrong) it's just whichever one you encounter first. But the general rule of thumb for this game is the same as any open world game, "if something is too hard go do other stuff to level up more then come back."

It'll happen if a gang puts out a hit on V. The moment that you get into your car, you get attacked. It's random and I'm not sure what it'll depend on.

[Silverbane7]

Originally posted by Zero McDohl:

Originally posted by It Hertz When IP:

Sorry to get hung up on one detail but do you mean you just get into a car in randomly and people just aggressively ram into you? Because unless you're in combat and/or a terrible driver that shouldn't happen.

As for super psychos IIRC there is no "first" one (i did beat them all a loooong time ago so apologizes if I'm wrong) it's just whichever one you encounter first. But the general rule of thumb for this game is the same as any open world game, "if something is too hard go do other stuff to level up more then come back."

It'll happen if a gang puts out a hit on V. The moment that you get into your car, you get attacked. It's random and I'm not sure what it'll depend on.

It depends on how hard you went on certain gang members/gangoons in missions I think.
I've heard the pickup Maelstrom guys can be buggy. Like, V being level 3 and their hit squad folks being lvl 25 elites buggy.

Lt Mower isn't your first cyberpsycho tho. she's your second.
She's down in Kabuki, while there is another near the docks in Little China. A dude wacked out on drugs. Regina will call you when you get closer, but Mower shouldn't be your first psycho really.
The dock worker guy is a bit easier, if you get under the stairs, you can pick him off by chewin on his ankles XD

When I first started playing, I would clear all of Watson's ncpd points before doing any main story quests.
I still do, mostly.
Go drive to Vik's with Jackie. Leave him in the chair with Misty and get my chrome.
Then, sneak out the back way without talking to the Jackster. He gets quality time with his girl...I get to pound the bad guys (or the gonks who are dumb enough to try to ghost me lol) for exp, gear and cash.
Couple in game days later, Watson is a safer place...I'm level 10 or so, and ive enough cash to pay my debts. But I don't do the psychos (they won't trigger till you talk to Jackie about meeting Dex around the corner, so you can wander Watson safely....well ok...slightly safer lmao)
I only do one gig for Regina tho. 'monster hunt' since it lets me unlock a mod I use. I leave the rest of them till act 2.

I'd say, if you started the game on hard, lower the difficulty a little.
No shame in playing easy/normal till you got the learning curve.
Get your feet under you, then you can find your comfortable difficulty setting.

[Bjørn]

The game may seem a bit brutal at first, before you get used to everything (there is a lot to get used to), and especially the first encounter with the gangs attacking you that someone mentions might be bugged, but once you get used to things you wish more things would happen, and maybe even want to increase difficulty (I usually start and play games like these on easy, but playing this on very hard now).

Very immersive world, and once you get the hang of things and get used to your preferred playstyle, get some good cyberware, quickhacks and / or weapons, Night City is your oyster!

Originally posted by Silverbane7:

Lt Mower isn't your first cyberpsycho tho. she's your second.

Just felt like mentioning that she's been the first I've encountered both times I've started playing so far. But like mentioned above it depends on how you play and explore. But I remember reading about Mower when I first started playing, and saw that many had experienced her as the first one.

She was indeed quite tough for me as well, with her invisibility, zipping around and such, which was why I checked the forum (like the OP I prefer to play games without reading much about them first).

She also died both times I first took her out (had to reload the game), which none of the other cyberpsychos has done, so it can seem she might be bugged sometimes.

Since so many encounter her first, it may ruin the hole 'keep them all alive' goal of those missions. Not that the rewards for achieving that is spectacular, but more a personal goal.

[evancampbell]

Originally posted by It Hertz When IP:

Sorry to get hung up on one detail but do you mean you just get into a car in randomly and people just aggressively ram into you? Because unless you're in combat and/or a terrible driver that shouldn't happen.

As for super psychos IIRC there is no "first" one (i did beat them all a loooong time ago so apologizes if I'm wrong) it's just whichever one you encounter first. But the general rule of thumb for this game is the same as any open world game, "if something is too hard go do other stuff to level up more then come back."

Originally posted by Silverbane7:

Originally posted by Zero McDohl:

It'll happen if a gang puts out a hit on V. The moment that you get into your car, you get attacked. It's random and I'm not sure what it'll depend on.

It depends on how hard you went on certain gang members/gangoons in missions I think.
I've heard the pickup Maelstrom guys can be buggy. Like, V being level 3 and their hit squad folks being lvl 25 elites buggy.

Lt Mower isn't your first cyberpsycho tho. she's your second.
She's down in Kabuki, while there is another near the docks in Little China. A dude wacked out on drugs. Regina will call you when you get closer, but Mower shouldn't be your first psycho really.
The dock worker guy is a bit easier, if you get under the stairs, you can pick him off by chewin on his ankles XD

When I first started playing, I would clear all of Watson's ncpd points before doing any main story quests.
I still do, mostly.
Go drive to Vik's with Jackie. Leave him in the chair with Misty and get my chrome.
Then, sneak out the back way without talking to the Jackster. He gets quality time with his girl...I get to pound the bad guys (or the gonks who are dumb enough to try to ghost me lol) for exp, gear and cash.
Couple in game days later, Watson is a safer place...I'm level 10 or so, and ive enough cash to pay my debts. But I don't do the psychos (they won't trigger till you talk to Jackie about meeting Dex around the corner, so you can wander Watson safely....well ok...slightly safer lmao)
I only do one gig for Regina tho. 'monster hunt' since it lets me unlock a mod I use. I leave the rest of them till act 2.

I'd say, if you started the game on hard, lower the difficulty a little.
No shame in playing easy/normal till you got the learning curve.
Get your feet under you, then you can find your comfortable difficulty setting.

Yes as soon as I enter my car it seems like they spawn & ram into me/start combat.

It started happening after I killed all the Maelstrom guys in Pickup, so as said it seems like they put a hit on me & maybe it's bugged to be harder than it should be? Maybe I just need to get better at the driving combat too though, I'm only a couple hours in

Thanks for all the posts; I'll try fast-traveling to a different area, do the other Cyberpyscho first, put some more hours into the game and see how it goes. Seems fun - usually not an open world fan but I'm digging the atmosphere in this one

[evancampbell]

Something definitely seems wrong. Anytime I get into my vehicle, combat starts & I'm swarmed by enemies with red skulls over their heads that kill me in seconds. One time I lived long enough to lure them into a bunch of cops but they slaughtered them & me anyway

The game feels unplayable unless I never use vehicles which isn't appealing :/

Is there any way to get the bounty off or prevent this from happening?

[ingus76]

Revengers appear till you kill them all.

Lower difficulty, kill them all, change difficulty back to your desired.

Thats all, revengers no more appeared till next scripted story mission.

[Silverbane7]

when you say 'get into my vehicle' do you mean just cars, or also motorbikes?

went looking, found some info from reddit.


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6mo ago
I've noticed a few details about these new car chases/gang retaliations

For one they are scripted events that occur if V decides on taking an aggressive approach during certain gigs and main missions.

not all gigs or main quests will trigger a car chase but so far I've encountered some of them that do which are:

Tyger and Vulture - Tyger Claws retaliate

Greed never pays - Tyger Claws retaliate

The Hippocratic oath - Maelstrom retaliate

After completion of one or more of these gigs, the next time you hop into a vehicle you may be soon be attacked.

These events can happen nearly anywhere but can not be triggered on foot, you must be in a vehicle first.

The attackers will always be the same type of enemies, and the boss character will always carry a data shard that details why V needs to die.

Unfortunately, killing a bunch of random gangsters will not cause them to chase after you, these chase segments only happen after going guns blazing during certain gigs and or main missions. (Was hoping for a gang notoriety meter but we'll just have to make do.)

The reason that players are noticing multiple gangs attacking them is because they've already completed most if not all the main quests/gigs thus enabling the gang's delayed attacks to all happen at once.

Luckily these attacks are not infinite and will stop once you kill all the attackers. They may seem like a handful especially if more than one gang is attacking you but just kill them all.

Also you can hold off on fighting them by not entering a vehicle.

That's all i have for now.



so, yeah seems they lowered it a bit (according to the folks on that thread), but maybe difficulty is changing things?
are you playing on easy/normal/hard/very hard?

if you are currently on hard/very hard... just try dropping it to easy for a moment. take the gang out and they should hopefully stop coming after you (just make sure to read the shard the leader has, that might be what triggers them to stop with the hit for now)

could try stealth, add more into stealth. or (yeah, i know its a pain but) try walking and using the metro to get a few more levels, and then pump some points into skills. grab some more armour cyberware.
if you are still in act1, just get familiar with Watson and it's sub districts. Little China and Kabuki are densely packed so you don't actualy need to drive around as much. Northside, which is the Industrial area, is more spread out, so pinching a bike from downed Tyger Claws is a good idea. they can often despawn on you, but the white bike next to the MedCenter will stay (mostly) till you move into act2 (thats how it worked for me lol)
the Arasaka Waterfront is empty tbh, not much point going there before act2, only one reason to go there after act1 lol (unless you had the hidden packages mod, but thats kinda broken XD)

yeah, Mower was the first one i was contacted about. peeked around the corner when i saw the downed guys. saw the water and noped out of there as i recognised the easter egg XD
i was like 'i am NOT gona fight the Major, and have Bato on my tail XD'

[PanPan]

1) You should go in settings and look what controls are...
2) Don't fight in the open world before lvl 30 i would say.
3) At lvl 60, eat Smasher and MaxTac for breakfast...

For CyberPsychos :
- You can use hack like cripple movement to go behind target and do a non lethal takedown
- You can use Cyber Malfunction to disable cyberwares like Sandevistan or Cloak.

[evancampbell]

Originally posted by ingus76:

Revengers appear till you kill them all.

Lower difficulty, kill them all, change difficulty back to your desired.

Thats all, revengers no more appeared till next scripted story mission.

Good to know, thanks. Went to Easy, killed them, upped the difficulty back up & all seems good now 👍

Will be more careful in future altho I think it's just b/c I've barely leveled/started the game

[Nar!]

Also really pay very close attention to your perk system, weapon mods, etc to work well together and give you that extra edge to melt enemies. Combining certain cyberdeck hacks followed by specific weapon attacks can really make certain challenges (even against heavies) less stressful. :]

Get those eddies!

[Wingnut Mcmoomoo]

Originally posted by Silverbane7:

Originally posted by Zero McDohl:

It'll happen if a gang puts out a hit on V. The moment that you get into your car, you get attacked. It's random and I'm not sure what it'll depend on.

It depends on how hard you went on certain gang members/gangoons in missions I think.
I've heard the pickup Maelstrom guys can be buggy. Like, V being level 3 and their hit squad folks being lvl 25 elites buggy.

Lt Mower isn't your first cyberpsycho tho. she's your second.
She's down in Kabuki, while there is another near the docks in Little China. A dude wacked out on drugs. Regina will call you when you get closer, but Mower shouldn't be your first psycho really.
The dock worker guy is a bit easier, if you get under the stairs, you can pick him off by chewin on his ankles XD

When I first started playing, I would clear all of Watson's ncpd points before doing any main story quests.
I still do, mostly.
Go drive to Vik's with Jackie. Leave him in the chair with Misty and get my chrome.
Then, sneak out the back way without talking to the Jackster. He gets quality time with his girl...I get to pound the bad guys (or the gonks who are dumb enough to try to ghost me lol) for exp, gear and cash.
Couple in game days later, Watson is a safer place...I'm level 10 or so, and ive enough cash to pay my debts. But I don't do the psychos (they won't trigger till you talk to Jackie about meeting Dex around the corner, so you can wander Watson safely....well ok...slightly safer lmao)
I only do one gig for Regina tho. 'monster hunt' since it lets me unlock a mod I use. I leave the rest of them till act 2.

I'd say, if you started the game on hard, lower the difficulty a little.
No shame in playing easy/normal till you got the learning curve.
Get your feet under you, then you can find your comfortable difficulty setting.

This just happened to me and it was the first time i got attacked like this (first time playing the game).

Got in my car and suddenly 2 cars fills with guys who 1 shot me and who i couldn't damage rocking all sorts of crazy tech (like they were each stronger than LT Mower by a large magnitude) wasted me 3 times before I realized getting into the car was the trigger. I walked for a while instead of driving and then the attack seems to have gone away for now as my car doesn't spawn them.

[Wingnut Mcmoomoo]

Originally posted by PanPan:

1) You should go in settings and look what controls are...
2) Don't fight in the open world before lvl 30 i would say.
3) At lvl 60, eat Smasher and MaxTac for breakfast...

For CyberPsychos :
- You can use hack like cripple movement to go behind target and do a non lethal takedown
- You can use Cyber Malfunction to disable cyberwares like Sandevistan or Cloak.

I'm on very hard and open world fights are pretty easy in the low levels. I'm running a melee/tech build on my first playthrough. I just run up and beat the first guy down with fists or a stick then retreat to a corner to kill another then retreat to a corner to kill another, if things get really bad you can just run a few more feet away and they'll lose you and reset. You can even kite 2 or 3 guys around cover sometimes and pick them off that way.

Waiting till 30 seems very very silly when the main way i make money is just by clearing out open world fights. Early game I've not found a way to make 50k in such a short amount of time as just wrecking random street events and selling the guns. Its like 5 mins per 10k if you're really just blasting through them.

On the topic of the cyberpsycho Lt Mower, I just melee'd her to KO in a stand up fight (she was my first cyberpsycho). With her AI if you go in and do a strong attack, it will reset what she was doing, then you back up about 10 feet as she staggers and she'll pull out her gun, once she starts to pull out her gun you run at her and strong attack her again, she will stumble and put her gun away, you run back 10 feet as she staggers and she'll pull out her gun. If you do it right she won't ever attack you or teleport (she may turn invisible but you can still stun lock her during that if you've got the timing memorized) You can loop most human sized enemies that have more than one weapon option this way with melee attacks. I figured out her infinite loop on my 3rd attempt at fighting her. If you do it in the hallway leading into her fight area its even easier to lock her into the stun loop+ you have a corner if you mess up and drop it.

[PanPan]

You don't need to farm in this game, it's not Ubisoft game...
Kite ? Stun lock ? OP has trouble against chooms, he isn't EldenRing speedrunnner...

[dot]

Depends on your build or way to play more like it. If you are the kind of going for the front attack but getting easily destroyed at the beginning, take it chill for a bit. You will need a lot more chrome to get cheeky... don't worry you will be able to indeed get bully tier, but you will need to get more abilities and more resilience, first gotta work your way up straight from the ground.