Is it me, or does dodging/dashing not always work?

[skatche]

Dunno if it's my keyboard, an in-game bug, or something I'm missing, but often hitting Ctrl just does nothing (though if I can successfully dash once, usually I can dash repeatedly after that). Happens more often when trying to dash backwards, but sometimes even when moving forwards, trying to get a bit of extra speed. I've been able to get by, but I want to try a melee focused build on my next playthrough, and this is making me wonder if it'll even be viable.

[BullStork]

try double tapping it

[skatche]

Originally posted by BullStork:

try double tapping it

Pretty sure I've done that -- not in an intentional way, but in a "crap crap why isn't this working I'm about to get hit" sort of way. Also, at other times, single-tapping works fine.

[mookymook]

seems obv but i have to ask- did you check the yellow stamina bar- are you out of stamina?
otherwise try rebinding - i seem to recall some keybinds not working properly if other keys (ie., arrow keys for movement) are being pressed at the same time.

[skatche]

Originally posted by mookymook:

seems obv but i have to ask- did you check the yellow stamina bar- are you out of stamina?
otherwise try rebinding - i seem to recall some keybinds not working properly if other keys (ie., arrow keys for movement) are being pressed at the same time.

Ah, might be on to something there, as I haven't paid much attention to my stamina bar. Still not sure that's what it is, but I'll keep it in mind for the next time it happens. Thanks!

[Okkuas]

For what it's worth, sometimes the keys seem to become unresponsive for a short while. In addition to dashing not always activating when I want to, I've also had the occasional problem when trying to swap guns, and have to press the keys repeatedly because the first keypress isn't registering - it usually happens when trying to do several actions simultaneously (sprint/crouch/slide, fire, swap gun, jump).

[Similar]

Originally posted by Okkuas:

For what it's worth, sometimes the keys seem to become unresponsive for a short while. In addition to dashing not always activating when I want to, I've also had the occasional problem when trying to swap guns, and have to press the keys repeatedly because the first keypress isn't registering - it usually happens when trying to do several actions simultaneously (sprint/crouch/slide, fire, swap gun, jump).

I have the weapon swap thing too (also when I'm not doing other actions at the same time). It's not even a delayed reaction, like from lag, the button just doesn't do anything for a while (mousewheel seems to always work, but it's kind of awkward when you're in a hurry).
I had the same problem with C, crouch, when I first started playing. Sometimes I could hit it 10-12 times without anything happening, but that seems to have mostly fixed itself, which is very weird considering I haven't changed anything.

Dash seems to mostly work for me, but the problem is that if I press L-CTRL nothing happens (which is stupid). I have to tap it. And the difference between a press and a tap is minuscule. So I can't use it reliably, and I certainly can't do any of the fancy midair stuff I see people do in videos.
Tried binding it to a mouse button too a couple of times, but that worked even less well (I do have a Razer mouse and it seems the game has a history of problems with those. Though, apparently binding stuff to mouse buttons should have caused the game to crash before the last patch and that never happened for me, so I don't know).

[Sir Danglefrögge]

Had a similar issue upon replaying the game for the first time after the 2.0 patches.

In the control options I hit "default", saved the options, restarted the game. No more issues since. 2.0 somehow borked the previous default bindings (like, during tutorials the bindings weren't displaying the correct keys). So even though the controls were the same between 1.6 and 2.0+, this method just worked. Can't explain it.

And yeah when dodging you also lose stamina, you have to pay attention to the yellow bar underneath your health meter during combat.

[Jarells]

Originally posted by skatche:

Dunno if it's my keyboard, an in-game bug, or something I'm missing, but often hitting Ctrl just does nothing (though if I can successfully dash once, usually I can dash repeatedly after that). Happens more often when trying to dash backwards, but sometimes even when moving forwards, trying to get a bit of extra speed. I've been able to get by, but I want to try a melee focused build on my next playthrough, and this is making me wonder if it'll even be viable.

ngl, Im not a fan of the double tap dodge mechanic (I play on Mouse and keyboard), it really showed for me during the Beat on the brat quests where i'd want to side step put the habit of tapping for precision would dash, and at times when I'm just doing parkour, and i'm trying to tap to get just a little better angle, and accidentally would dash off.

[Scarecrow]

I don't know about you, but I have slowly come to realize that the dodge and dash not working isn't a game issue, it's a player issue. I play on PC, but I have used both a controller and a mouse and keyboard on various play throughs. I can't get consistent dodge or dash mechanics to work on either. But the reason for that is that the timing for them has to be *very* precise. You can't just mash the button at any time and expect to dodge, you have to dodge and move at the right moment in the NPCs attack to count as a real dodge, and I'm just not that good at getting the timing right.

And dash relies on there not being any collideable debris between you and where you are dashing, no matter how small. There have been many times I've attempted to dash, but end up stopping short because that piece of junk on the ground is solid, and I can't dash over it, or that pole is in the path, even though I'm dashing at an angle that should miss it, but I don't because I'm unaware of just how wide I am.

[N00B]

The dash doesn't trigger when you press a button, but when you release it.
This is why the input is delayed. If you hold down the key, the input won't register either.

Clearly CDPR wanted the dash key and sprint key to be the same, but in their ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ couldn't bring themselves to make good decisions and made them seperate keys.

[skatche]

Originally posted by Sir Danglefrögge:

Had a similar issue upon replaying the game for the first time after the 2.0 patches.

In the control options I hit "default", saved the options, restarted the game. No more issues since. 2.0 somehow borked the previous default bindings (like, during tutorials the bindings weren't displaying the correct keys). So even though the controls were the same between 1.6 and 2.0+, this method just worked. Can't explain it.

Had a similar problem with the weapon swap keys. For some reason they automatically bind as held keys rather than keypresses, although under the default they work as keypresses. If you rebind them (I put them on numpad, since I've got a gaming mouse with a whole numpad at the thumb) then they have to be held down for a second to work.

Originally posted by Scarecrow:

[...] But the reason for that is that the timing for them has to be *very* precise. You can't just mash the button at any time and expect to dodge, you have to dodge and move at the right moment in the NPCs attack to count as a real dodge, and I'm just not that good at getting the timing right.

And dash relies on there not being any collideable debris between you and where you are dashing, no matter how small. There have been many times I've attempted to dash, but end up stopping short [...]

Just to be clear, I'm not talking about the dodge/dash "not working" in the sense of still getting hit, I mean I literally don't move any faster.

[SL4PT]

You may be experiencing key ghosting, caused by a keyboard input limitation, standard keyboards glitch out if you hit 3+ keys simultaneously, if the keyboard isn't specifically geared for this as gaming boards should be... this would be the case.

[Phynrae]

Originally posted by skatche:

Had a similar problem with the weapon swap keys. For some reason they automatically bind as held keys rather than keypresses, although under the default they work as keypresses. If you rebind them (I put them on numpad, since I've got a gaming mouse with a whole numpad at the thumb) then they have to be held down for a second to work.

Yep, this is very much a thing.

With both my duck and dash keys, i have to be very careful to just lightly tap them, if i hold them down at all, nothing happens.

This seems to be due to the game supporting "press" and "hold" of a button as sepperate functions (it's used a lot for controllers, not so much for KB+M).

So try this OP: start the game, and quickly tap the dash key a couple of times to see if that works, then try holding it down, see if that fails. If so, then you'll just have to get used to that fast tap when dashing.

[N00B]

Originally posted by Phynrae:

Originally posted by skatche:

Had a similar problem with the weapon swap keys. For some reason they automatically bind as held keys rather than keypresses, although under the default they work as keypresses. If you rebind them (I put them on numpad, since I've got a gaming mouse with a whole numpad at the thumb) then they have to be held down for a second to work.

Yep, this is very much a thing.

With both my duck and dash keys, i have to be very careful to just lightly tap them, if i hold them down at all, nothing happens.

This seems to be due to the game supporting "press" and "hold" of a button as sepperate functions (it's used a lot for controllers, not so much for KB+M).

So try this OP: start the game, and quickly tap the dash key a couple of times to see if that works, then try holding it down, see if that fails. If so, then you'll just have to get used to that fast tap when dashing.

Goes to prove how poorly developed and "fixed" this game is.

[AngelTheSuccubus666]

try binding the hold crouch key to an obscure key, because for some reason hold crouch is the same key as dodge/dash