[SPOILER] Victor is a scammer

[Scamdiver]

Not only this dude installs the trashiest cyberware on the market, but he also wants 20k for that. Neither he offers any discount after we repay the debt. Why do we consider this person to be our friend?

[voidlanches]

Why the most trashiest?

[Scamdiver]

Originally posted by voidlanches:

Why the most trashiest?

what's worse in your opinion?

[Phynrae]

Hehe... it really does seem like that, doesen't it?


It made a lot more sense in the initial release of the game, but since they completely changed the economy of cyberware, and how it works in terms of upgrades etc etc with the 2.0 update, it now really does seem like Vicky is taking you for a ride.


They changed the economy, but they didn't change this quest to match it.

[voidlanches]

Originally posted by Scamdiver:

Originally posted by voidlanches:

Why the most trashiest?

what's worse in your opinion?

Jenkins' Tendons by far the worst in my opinion

[EJR]

Keep in mind that the ripperdocs you go to are technically black market doctors welling to give you the "latest" cybernetics, if you got the money. Being black market, they have to purchase/trade for their inventory from unseen, and possibly undesirable, suppliers. The only reason they are still in business is because of how crime ridden NC is and how weak and ineffective the NPCD in lore (The number of cops were severely reduced and those that remained were told to just give out tickets, hence why gangs like Maelstrom can do literally whatever the ♥♥♥♥ they want).

With that in mind, Viktor is giving you the best of what he has. May not be the best on the overall market, both legal and not, but ripperdocs certainly don't screw around when paid. As for the 20k eddies, that is all from previous implants and maintenance V did offscreen, s/he just owes Vik.

The reason why all this isn't obvious in the game is because, well, it's a game.

[Smotmys, the Dreamer]

I always felt like maybe that the 20k was because he gave us additional software updates and maybe there is some base package for Kiroshis you need installed before you can swap any of them out.

[voidlanches]

Originally posted by EJR:

Keep in mind that the ripperdocs you go to are technically black market doctors welling to give you the "latest" cybernetics, if you got the money. Being black market, they have to purchase/trade for their inventory from unseen, and possibly undesirable, suppliers. The only reason they are still in business is because of how crime ridden NC is and how weak and ineffective the NPCD in lore (The number of cops were severely reduced and those that remained were told to just give out tickets, hence why gangs like Maelstrom can do literally whatever the ♥♥♥♥ they want).

With that in mind, Viktor is giving you the best of what he has. May not be the best on the overall market, both legal and not, but ripperdocs certainly don't screw around when paid. As for the 20k eddies, that is all from previous implants and maintenance V did offscreen, s/he just owes Vik.

The reason why all this isn't obvious in the game is because, well, it's a game.

Not to mention, in Cyberpunk lore, Kiroshi is the best optics company in the world

[Liquid Inc]

Originally posted by Smotmys, the Dreamer:

I always felt like maybe that the 20k was because he gave us additional software updates and maybe there is some base package for Kiroshis you need installed before you can swap any of them out.

He also wipes and cleans out the virus you catch while he's at it.... That probably accounts for some of the costs too.

[Bob11]

he installs a gunlink too, you gonk. that ♥♥♥♥ aint free, bozo!

[Heimdall313]

- wipes the virus you get from the scavs
- gets you Kiroshi optics, the top of the market, the Glock of eyeballs
- no interest, no time limit, no collateral? That's a pretty dang good "loan".
- NCPD database access, that thing earns me that 20K in half an hour and is awesome profit after that.

Vik is the best ripperdoc in the game and actually good person.

[voidlanches]

Originally posted by Heimdall313:

- wipes the virus you get from the scavs
- gets you Kiroshi optics, the top of the market, the Glock of eyeballs
- no interest, no time limit, no collateral? That's a pretty dang good "loan".
- NCPD database access, that thing earns me that 20K in half an hour and is awesome profit after that.

Vik is the best ripperdoc in the game and actually good person.

and the only person who is minimally interested in seeing you after 2 years in a coma

[Scamdiver]

Originally posted by Heimdall313:

- wipes the virus you get from the scavs
- gets you Kiroshi optics, the top of the market, the Glock of eyeballs
- no interest, no time limit, no collateral? That's a pretty dang good "loan".
- NCPD database access, that thing earns me that 20K in half an hour and is awesome profit after that.

Vik is the best ripperdoc in the game and actually good person.

Ok, virus and NCPD db are valid points, but "top of the market" - nah. No interest? no time limit? no collateral? - it's 20k for trash Tier 1 implants

[Similar]

Originally posted by Scamdiver:

Not only this dude installs the trashiest cyberware on the market, but he also wants 20k for that.

Kiroshi, that is specifically mentioned as being the best? And apparently worth more than he takes for it, judging from the dialogue?

Originally posted by Scamdiver:

Neither he offers any discount after we repay the debt.

Why would he when it was a debt? He even offered to let us keep the money (the game doesn't allow us to take his offer, but still).

Originally posted by Scamdiver:

Why do we consider this person to be our friend?

Well, I thought it was kind of nice of him to pull the bullet out of our skull, save our life and take care of us for weeks. And he didn't even demand payment for it.

He could have been someone like Fingers or Bucks.

[Phynrae]

Originally posted by Scamdiver:

Ok, virus and NCPD db are valid points, but "top of the market" - nah. No interest? no time limit? no collateral? - it's 20k for trash Tier 1 implants

Once again: This quest was written back in the day when there was only one Kiroshi implant in the game.

Patch 2.0 added a whole slew of new, and much better, Kiroshi optics for you to buy, so it nolonger makes sense... but it did before patch 2.0 was released.


I guess nobody thought to check this quest, and if the pricing of it still made sense after they completely revamped how implants work, and how they are priced.

[Scamdiver]

Originally posted by Similar:

Well, I thought it was kind of nice of him to pull the bullet out of our skull, save our life and take care of us for weeks.

OFC he saved us. Where else would he find a "specimen" that buys Tier 1 Kiroshi for 20k?

Jokes aside, these actions make him a friend, indeed, but that's another event.