Please for the love of god fix the money scaling thing in quests

[Punchmeat]

I just gave 70k+ to an npc just to get 30k back on the "refund" for a quest. Multiple quests so far are like this because what you get back isnt scaled. I dont know how this even became a thing

[thelebk]

Its a secret correction to fix the broken economy as you have lots of money and nothing you can buy except another model car your don't need most of the game.

[Khazimhir]

how do you even have money problems?

i dismantle EVERYTHING i find and still make 200k~ in like 30-40mins just running arround wiping the floor with random encounter thugs because they simply have so much cash on them.
i cant even count the numbers when im excited to see a legendary on an enemy only to find out that its just a money clip.

[Graf Erik]

Nah, your payments are scaled. Its just that the money you pay during missions and the money you receive during missions scale differently. Its part of the 'everything scales' philosophy now.
For missions where you are supposed to pay something that typically means that from mid-game onwards you have to look for a different solution (if you want to refuse to just eat the loss, which you can typically efford).

[Rhyono]

I like getting paid 7K for doing a whole mission, but I picked up 20 guns worth that each during. It becomes a tip, not a reward. V only accepts missions to justify being a loot goblin slaughtering thugs.

[Irinka]

Pretty sure you are talking about Nix quest. Guy made me pay 50k saying that he will return them to me. Later I pick the INT exlusive option which in theory should make him give you even more money and he gave me like 20k? What??

[Lorem Ipsum]

By the time you get the nix quest money should be a non issue for you. This run through, except for the very beginning when I need to pay back vic, I scrapped everything and sold nothing but excess hacks from my inventory / crafting. I still ended up well over $2 million by the time I reached dogtown.

If I had sold instead of scrapped I could have easily had another million or two sitting around doing nothing.

[Holografix]

There's no real economy in NC.

Eddies in Night City are like a threshold thing based on what you want to buy. You need some new guns? Look at current Eddy balance: if lower, do gigs; if higher, go buy. That's it. There is no economy because Eddies are endless.

[Irinka]

Originally posted by Lorem Ipsum:

By the time you get the nix quest money should be a non issue for you. This run through, except for the very beginning when I need to pay back vic, I scrapped everything and sold nothing but excess hacks from my inventory / crafting. I still ended up well over $2 million by the time I reached dogtown.

If I had sold instead of scrapped I could have easily had another million or two sitting around doing nothing.

I agree but it still doesn't make any sense for him to tell me he will return me the money, pick the INT exlusive option wich means he should give me more than what I paid and in the end give me less than half. You literally lose 30k just for doing that quest on high level and if you have high INT. If you don't you lose even more. The same happens with Gary the prophet. Asking for 16k everytime you visit him

[Makiya Kasunri]

Originally posted by Rhyono:

I like getting paid 7K for doing a whole mission, but I picked up 20 guns worth that each during. It becomes a tip, not a reward. V only accepts missions to justify being a loot goblin slaughtering thugs.

[ImHelping]

I have seen games where people talk ♥♥♥♥ "You just can't handle a deep realistic old-school economy challenge and I think money still too good!" even after a game accidentally broke missions to not even pay you anymore on a patch. inconvenience mistaken for depth by the gullible is a sad constant you learn when you reach a certain gamer age, kids.

Everyone telling you that money is too good and you are overreacting is essentially someone who wishes single player games were subscription MMOS in denial.

The devs of this game also clearly know how to give you big rewards too. Boxing Ozob if you bet him 30k or so you get a 100k pay pop up (Now watch that be a UI bug or something and you get less). Which makes people trying to defend "Player paid X, gets back less than that" even more sad.

[Pieshaman]

ok its a scaling thing?
I killed the choom cause I thought he still tricked me!

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Khazimhir:

how do you even have money problems?

i dismantle EVERYTHING i find and still make 200k~ in like 30-40mins just running arround wiping the floor with random encounter thugs because they simply have so much cash on them.
i cant even count the numbers when im excited to see a legendary on an enemy only to find out that its just a money clip.

That is actually precisely the problem.

The missions payout notta. You could literally do every mission in the entire game and the combined payout is less than what you can make in about 5-10 mins of running around killing random thugs. That is a huge economy balance problem.

This also means if you are focusing very heavily on the missions and not just randomly exploring, which is the most common playstyle in video games btw to be fair, you will be far too poor to upgrade stuff properly. You would actually be dirt poor, in fact, and the moment you hit level 40+ for legendaries it just isn't happening. Your equipment would be so far behind it would be quite sad. I mean, missions are literally paying the cost of 1 random gun, sometimes a bit more, that you could sell...

That said, as you... me... and others have pointed out you can break the economy by scurrying around for a little bit and have ample flowing funds. This does need patched though, as it is clearly imbalanced from both perspectives and also hurts the statistically most prominent player type who focus on almost exclusively main missions in games.

[Lorem Ipsum]

Originally posted by Xengre:

Originally posted by Khazimhir:

how do you even have money problems?

i dismantle EVERYTHING i find and still make 200k~ in like 30-40mins just running arround wiping the floor with random encounter thugs because they simply have so much cash on them.
i cant even count the numbers when im excited to see a legendary on an enemy only to find out that its just a money clip.

That is actually precisely the problem.

The missions payout notta. You could literally do every mission in the entire game and the combined payout is less than what you can make in about 5-10 mins of running around killing random thugs. That is a huge economy balance problem.

This also means if you are focusing very heavily on the missions and not just randomly exploring, which is the most common playstyle in video games btw to be fair, you will be far too poor to upgrade stuff properly.

Hardly. During almost every mission you will kill and loot enough sellable items during missions to make more money than you'd ever need in this game. Most NPC's you kill as part of missions / gigs will have a bounty on them, so you get paid for killing them, then you can loot their weapons and earn anywhere from $600 to $9000 or so depending on what level you / they / their weapons are at.

And if you walk anywhere in the game you will run across groups of forever respawning criminals that will give you even more money and loot you can sell. Walk from one gig or side job to another and you will see groups of 2-3 criminals you can easily kill along the way for easy money. If you chose not to do that, that's on you.

The only real shortage of money is the extreme early game, and that can be overcome in a few hours of playtime. The real shortage early on is in components you need to upgrade cyberware as you level up. Even scrapping everything and selling no weapons or clothing I had millions of dollars sitting around that I had nothing to do with.

There are much bigger gameplay issue to worry about - like how CWC shards stop dropping making you max out too low.

But this? It took more time to make this post than it would to make up the shortfall by culling a respawning criminal spot in pacifica. It's an exercise of complaining in order to complain.

[burnouttx]

I got a similar situation going. I did another run and made my character a netrunner with a maxed out contagion ability and all cyber parts and skills deal with armor, health regen, and RAM regen. The guy is a walking case of ebola just infecting anyone who looks in his direction. Scoops the loot, sells or breaks down for what parts he needs, and then just rides the train for the view while having at least a half mill of eddies. The one time he died is when he tried to jump the bridge with the talking taxi car where you bury "Scorpion". In my opinion, ver 1.x of this game was tougher.

[Punchmeat]

Originally posted by Khazimhir:

how do you even have money problems?

i dismantle EVERYTHING i find and still make 200k~ in like 30-40mins just running arround wiping the floor with random encounter thugs because they simply have so much cash on them.
i cant even count the numbers when im excited to see a legendary on an enemy only to find out that its just a money clip.

I didnt say i had money problems i'm still annoyed at losing money to a flawed design