How does stealth netrunner work?

[Kitragantur]

"Tracing Your Location" is literally ruining stealth netrunner experience for me (or I don't understand something?). I've been told that after you use "Sonic Shock" (purple quality at least) it allows you to use fighting scripts without triggering tracing. However, it still triggers on. Also there is a perk called "shadowrunner" which makes tracing progress -100% after a takedown, but looks like it literally doesn't work. Am I missing something?

[SotiCoto]

I don't even see it happening that often, though that is still more than before 2.0 when it never happened at all.

The Self-Ice Cyberware kills the first attempt, I believe. And I'm not sure if it is just a natural thing or a result of the Kiroshi Stalker Optics, but when someone starts trying to hack V, I can see a danger warning and their outline in gold, so I can deal with them pretty quickly (since my quickhacks go through faster than theirs)...

I can prevent it completely by dropping Memory Wipe on a target before any other quickhacks, but it is insanely expensive to use, and I typically find using Contagion as my first attack will incapacite even enemies I'm not aware of before they think to look for me.

[TH3R4BB!T]

Once it it fixed, but the wait is long already, you can use 'Sonic Shock' before any other quickhack. That will stop the tracing before it even would start

[Kitragantur]

Originally posted by TH3 SU!C!D4L R4BB!T:

Once it it fixed, but the wait is long already, you can use 'Sonic Shock' before any other quickhack. That will stop the tracing before it even would start

the thing is that tracing is still going even with Sonic Shock. I tried using it both at beginning and end of the chain

[SotiCoto]

Originally posted by Lenny The Spy Owl:

Originally posted by TH3 SU!C!D4L R4BB!T:

Once it it fixed, but the wait is long already, you can use 'Sonic Shock' before any other quickhack. That will stop the tracing before it even would start

the thing is that tracing is still going even with Sonic Shock. I tried using it both at beginning and end of the chain

Isn't Sonic Shock just the one that makes them deaf and unable to contact allies? Memory Wipe is the one that makes any quickhacks queued after it untraceable.

[Kitragantur]

Originally posted by SotiCoto:

Originally posted by Lenny The Spy Owl:

the thing is that tracing is still going even with Sonic Shock. I tried using it both at beginning and end of the chain

Isn't Sonic Shock just the one that makes them deaf and unable to contact allies? Memory Wipe is the one that makes any quickhacks queued after it untraceable.

Maybe you're right. I'll try it later, but it's strange for me that lvl5 Sonic Shock says that it disconnects an enemy from local network (and it would make sense if enemy couldn't trace you down without being connected to the local network)

[ImHelping]

I have been doubling down on "The devs hate intelligent gameplay, don't fall for being called lazy so hard you forget they want you to be lazy"

Using sonic not for combos, but to cast it 2-3 times on 2-3 people for the default purpose of deafening people so I can blow the brains out of their friend who is also now deaf and not allowed to call for help. which is still cheaper than popular "combos"

Spamming (better than common) bait to lure people to my pile of strangled corpses.

no sarcasm, play dumber. meet the game's childish tantrums on their level. This is a game where even PING will aggro enemies because of scripting. Got a reminder of that replaying the plot as voodo idiot screams in my ear "Scan sasquatch do it!" and oh right ping instantly aggros her, fueling her with the power of a thousand ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ saying how lore friendly it is she gets to cheat.

Not that it did her any good.

[Kitragantur]

Originally posted by ImHelping:

I have been doubling down on "The devs hate intelligent gameplay, don't fall for being called lazy so hard you forget they want you to be lazy"

Using sonic not for combos, but to cast it 2-3 times on 2-3 people for the default purpose of deafening people so I can blow the brains out of their friend who is also now deaf and not allowed to call for help. which is still cheaper than popular "combos"

Spamming (better than common) bait to lure people to my pile of strangled corpses.

no sarcasm, play dumber. meet the game's childish tantrums on their level. This is a game where even PING will aggro enemies because of scripting. Got a reminder of that replaying the plot as voodo idiot screams in my ear "Scan sasquatch do it!" and oh right ping instantly aggros her, fueling her with the power of a thousand ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ saying how lore friendly it is she gets to cheat.

Not that it did her any good.

fair enough

[ParasiteX]

I haven't fully played around with stealth net running yet. But based on descriptions at higher tier hacks and perks you get a lot of ways to reduce the tracing progress.

[Kitragantur]

Originally posted by ParasiteX:

I haven't fully played around with stealth net running yet. But based on descriptions at higher tier hacks and perks you get a lot of ways to reduce the tracing progress.

I still wonder why "Shadowrunner" doesn't work properly then

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by Lenny The Spy Owl:

Originally posted by ImHelping:

I have been doubling down on "The devs hate intelligent gameplay, don't fall for being called lazy so hard you forget they want you to be lazy"

Using sonic not for combos, but to cast it 2-3 times on 2-3 people for the default purpose of deafening people so I can blow the brains out of their friend who is also now deaf and not allowed to call for help. which is still cheaper than popular "combos"

Spamming (better than common) bait to lure people to my pile of strangled corpses.

no sarcasm, play dumber. meet the game's childish tantrums on their level. This is a game where even PING will aggro enemies because of scripting. Got a reminder of that replaying the plot as voodo idiot screams in my ear "Scan sasquatch do it!" and oh right ping instantly aggros her, fueling her with the power of a thousand ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ saying how lore friendly it is she gets to cheat.

Not that it did her any good.

fair enough

For more "sounds like a joke but is actually serious" advice. The Memory boost "Ram on kills" is probably one of the most important netrunner cybernetics.

One overlooked in the past by some when more slow paced 'hack everyone to death' was more doable, but still top of the line for speeding up the pace of chaining prank hacks into kills in stealth. And a LOT more impressive when you are chewing through trash in scripted group combat to take the edge off increased ram costs for higher rank versions of hacks.

Don't forget the smartgun implant (non tattoo) gives 1-2 ram too, even if you ignore smartguns that is some of the cheapest cyber cost per ram you can get.

[Kitragantur]

Originally posted by Lenny The Spy Owl:

Originally posted by ParasiteX:

I haven't fully played around with stealth net running yet. But based on descriptions at higher tier hacks and perks you get a lot of ways to reduce the tracing progress.

I still wonder why "Shadowrunner" doesn't work properly then

Maybe it requiers takedown by hands, didn't test it that way yet

[TH3R4BB!T]

Nah, Sonic Shock used to be untraceable and kill all tracing on the next quickhack, before 2.1. The devs made a mistake and does not fix it, and now the Netrunner is left with Memory Wipe to do nearly the same for more RAM. You can however find a mod that repairs Sonic Shock

[A TIN OF JAR]

I'm sure putting a T4 memory wipe at the start of the queue will stop you being traced.

[Raze]

Originally posted by A TIN OF JAR:

I'm sure putting a T4 memory wipe at the start of the queue will stop you being traced.

This. It says in the description text that anything following Memory wipe in the queue won't be traced.

Sonic Shock is also still bugged I believe, and that hack is supposed to be untraceable, and prevent them from calling for help throughout its duration.

Personally I load up contagion, then memory wipe which reduces the ram cost of system shutdown, which I use on enemies that contagion didn't reach. Usually keeps me in stealth long enough to wipe the group with just hacks.

Stealth Net Runner isn't really my playstyle though, so if I go into combat, I lay them out with either my katana or smart gun.

[Inari]

Originally posted by ImHelping:

I have been doubling down on "The devs hate intelligent gameplay, don't fall for being called lazy so hard you forget they want you to be lazy"

Using sonic not for combos, but to cast it 2-3 times on 2-3 people for the default purpose of deafening people so I can blow the brains out of their friend who is also now deaf and not allowed to call for help. which is still cheaper than popular "combos"

Spamming (better than common) bait to lure people to my pile of strangled corpses.

no sarcasm, play dumber. meet the game's childish tantrums on their level. This is a game where even PING will aggro enemies because of scripting. Got a reminder of that replaying the plot as voodo idiot screams in my ear "Scan sasquatch do it!" and oh right ping instantly aggros her, fueling her with the power of a thousand ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ saying how lore friendly it is she gets to cheat.

Not that it did her any good.

She gets to cheat becuase NetWatch