Cyberpunk 2077

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DeVeers Dec 17, 2023 @ 11:05pm
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FSR 3 Frame Generation mod RELEASED NOW for Cyberpunk 2077
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3116831303

RTX 20 and 30 series owners can now enable frame generation for free in the game
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envirovore Dec 20, 2023 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by catch22atplay:
I hate updating vbios. Hopefully yours has 2 like mine. I bricked a few in the past. But i modded them for overclocking so..... on me. And newer version of inspector. Resizeable BAR - Size Limit" windows localization fix. Doesn't affect you but may others so newer version required.

https://github.com/Orbmu2k/nvidiaProfileInspector/releases/download/2.4.0.4/nvidiaProfileInspector.zip

Aye. Dual vBIOS model as well, I run it in the factory OC Bios mode with an AB profile for further boost (stable 2077 settings: +90 core, +350 memory, 105% power limit 93c thermal limit, custom fan curve, voltage yeeted, hot spot at 83-85 max in monitoring - still reports power/voltage limited but I'm not interested in flashing the LN2 OC bios to it lol) saving the 'stock' mode should I need it.

There's a thread in troubleshooting that seems related to transient spiking knocking systems offline, and your mentioning vBIOS update likely partly explains why while it's worth still being aware of as a concern with my generation GPU, is also why it hasn't been an issue for me so far.

When I first got the card the default OC vBios allowed for a 420W (108% with spikes to 113%) power limit and higher voltage limit if you wanted to OC it beyond 'stock OC'.
Within a couple months of having it a vBios update was released that pulled that back to a 400W (105% with spikes to 108%) and dropped the voltage curve slightly.

I've stuck with that since as it's been stable.
Last edited by envirovore; Dec 20, 2023 @ 11:50am
catch22atplay Dec 20, 2023 @ 1:12pm 
Ya good call. When New World came out it really stressed 2xxx and 3xxx gpus. Showed the issues with those cards engineering wise. Dropping load limit helped a lot. Many had to buy new PSUs. Or they had to lower load limit to 100% or worse 80% and or underclock and undervolt. Or have the evga bad soldering issue. The 4xxx series is engineered a lot better. Lessons learned etc. But it was also history repeating itself as it always does sadly.
Wakawakachewbaka Dec 20, 2023 @ 1:16pm 
max settings dlss-quality and path tracing get average 65-70 fps with frame gen 3080ti 10700k
DeVeers Dec 20, 2023 @ 10:29pm 
Originally posted by BigDreamer:
what about AMD cards?
there is one but it's patreon exclusive
DeVeers Dec 21, 2023 @ 5:16am 
v0.70 changelog -

Error checking code rewritten.
Logging code rewritten.
Added better support for texture dimensions/formats changing at runtime.
Added a developer config option to show only interpolated frames.
Improved nvngx wrapper dll compatibility.
BrackObama2 Dec 21, 2023 @ 5:32am 
FPS increase is significant, but for some reason after a few minutes screen started to tear, felt like a lag, but framerates weren't dropping. I don't know how to properly explain it, but it was unplayable, felt like rubberbanding, screen tearing, something like that.
Stj.Srex Dec 21, 2023 @ 5:58am 
This finally just show that Nvidia was lying when they said that FG is only possible on 4000 series as many people said. It was obviously intentionally disabled for 2000 and 3000 GPUs to force you to buy latest GPUs
envirovore Dec 21, 2023 @ 7:33am 
Originally posted by DeVeers:
v0.70 changelog -

Error checking code rewritten.
Logging code rewritten.
Added better support for texture dimensions/formats changing at runtime.
Added a developer config option to show only interpolated frames.
Improved nvngx wrapper dll compatibility.

Sweet!
envirovore Dec 21, 2023 @ 7:34am 
Originally posted by Stj.Srex:
This finally just show that Nvidia was lying when they said that FG is only possible on 4000 series as many people said. It was obviously intentionally disabled for 2000 and 3000 GPUs to force you to buy latest GPUs

You realize they work in different ways on different parts of GPU hardware...right?
Stj.Srex Dec 21, 2023 @ 8:38am 
Originally posted by envirovore:
Originally posted by Stj.Srex:
This finally just show that Nvidia was lying when they said that FG is only possible on 4000 series as many people said. It was obviously intentionally disabled for 2000 and 3000 GPUs to force you to buy latest GPUs

You realize they work in different ways on different parts of GPU hardware...right?

And you do realize that both 2000 and 3000 also use Optical Flow Accelerator as 4000 for FG. Gain from FG most likely woludnt be as much as on 4000 series but still it should be more then enough to smooth gamaplay for all new games. Why some people still ignore the fact that Nvidia intentionally lock you out of feature that should be available to you, just to force you to buy new GPUs.
envirovore Dec 21, 2023 @ 10:48am 
Originally posted by Stj.Srex:
Originally posted by envirovore:

You realize they work in different ways on different parts of GPU hardware...right?

And you do realize that both 2000 and 3000 also use Optical Flow Accelerator as 4000 for FG. Gain from FG most likely wouldn't be as much as on 4000 series but still it should be more then enough to smooth gameplay for all new games. Why some people still ignore the fact that Nvidia intentionally lock you out of feature that should be available to you, just to force you to buy new GPUs.

I am aware Turing and Ampere both have OFA units. Turing's is used for video playback only IIRC from past discussions about it based off the white sheet.
I'm also aware of generational improvements in hardware such as instruction optimization, core optimizations/count changes, transistor changes/count changes. Each generation of RTX has had generational improvements to OFA (as documented in said white paper), yes but that is only part of the solution for FG as nV manages it, the other being SER.

I'm willing to believe their engineers when they say they've tested it all and it incurs too high a rendering time cost to potentially be worth it. Last time they lied about hardware specifications they got a nice class action suit dumped on them after trying to hide splitting total vram across two varying speeds of RAM.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/07/nvidia-offers-30-to-gtx-970-customers-in-class-action-lawsuit-over-ram/

Even comparing shader cores/shader core count to gauge cross generation uplift performance isn't an accurate comparison due to generational changes.

I get it though, it's fun to play conspiracy about everything. I don't think nvidia (or amd, or any company really) are some bastions of honesty and such...they want money, i also don't think everything has an ulterior motive behind it either.
In that case though, a better one is that nvidia killed off non RT/tensor core based GPUs on purpose solely to refine both their hardware and software AI division as they'll need alternate revenue once rendering hits a performance wall due to physical process limitations.

The above all said, I would actually love it if it became known it is possible to have full DlSS3 support on Turing/Ampere with acceptable frame time cost through some sort of pipeline optimization really.
Last edited by envirovore; Dec 21, 2023 @ 11:11am
DeVeers Dec 21, 2023 @ 8:57pm 
Would be funny if Nvidia suddenly was like 'Oops guys looks like there actually was a way to get frame gen working on 20 and 30 cards we just forgor, stop using fsr and come back to dlss'

Would be unlikely but also funny
(TTV)OnBrandRP Dec 21, 2023 @ 11:50pm 
Originally posted by DeVeers:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3116831303

RTX 20 and 30 series owners can now enable frame generation for free in the game
Also for people asking why AMD can't even do FSR3, you don't even need FSR3 for any AMD 6XXX series card or above. You have a driver level setting you can toggle on called AFMF, which is a type of frame generation that doubles the FPS consistently. Cyberpunk on all Ultra with Path Tracing at 1440P on a 7800 XT can literally get 100fps on average on its own, and shoots up to 200fps which AFMR.

So FSR3 is only good for less than 6XXX series cards, or nVidia users who hate nVidia's stance on FG.
Last edited by (TTV)OnBrandRP; Dec 21, 2023 @ 11:52pm
lonkalsim Dec 22, 2023 @ 1:13pm 
waiting for 2.2 to play FSR3 with rx590 :c
DeVeers Dec 23, 2023 @ 3:40am 
Originally posted by lonkalsim:
waiting for 2.2 to play FSR3 with rx590 :c

Dunno what's taking cdpr so long to add native support
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