Why don't I have the HDR10+ option?

[JohnnyPC-2013]

My Samsung TV QN800A is HDR10+ compatible, but I can't find the option in the game.
The only options I see in the menu are HDR PQ and HDR scRGB.

HDR is enabled on Windows 11, game mode is activated on the TV, and I have an Asus 3090 ROG Strix with up-to-date drivers.

Any ideas?

[Napoleonic S]

Originally posted by JohnnyPC-2013:

My Samsung TV QN800A is HDR10+ compatible, but I can't find the option in the game.
The only options I see in the menu are HDR PQ and HDR scRGB.

HDR is enabled on Windows 11, game mode is activated on the TV, and I have an Asus 3090 ROG Strix with up-to-date drivers.

Any ideas?

I have a Samsung monitor and on here I need to turn on HDR 10 gaming mode on the monitor... So you need to make sure that option is turned on for your tv... Perhaps if the tv is too old it doesn't have that mode.

[MrSoul]

Shoddy hdmi cable?

If TV is compatible with that type of HDR should show up in menu as Sector highlighted, if not maybe issue with windows properly detecting what hdmi you have. My first thing try would be just swapping out the hdmi beyond that double check got all the windows updates, know was at least one for HDR round time starfield came out.

[JohnnyPC-2013]

I also reinstalled the Nvidia drivers from scratch, and still, the option is not available.
Windows 11 is also up to date.

It's not an issue with my certified Belkin HDMI 2.1 cable either (I've already noticed the difference with lower-quality cables).

I've browsed through forums, and I'm not the only one who doesn't see the option, even though we have the capability for HDR10+.

[JohnnyPC-2013]

Originally posted by Sector 5:

HDR10+ is in settings under VIDEO not graphics....

Sure, this YouTuber has the option I'm looking for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxY0STzphiI&t=6s

[13xforever]

Enabling Frame Generation removes scRGB option, so it might also remove HDR10+

[JohnnyPC-2013]

Originally posted by 13xforever:

Enabling Frame Generation removes scRGB option, so it might also remove HDR10+

I have a 3090, so I don't have access to Nvidia's Frame Generation (looking forward to FSR 3, thanks AMD).

Watch the video I shared; the YouTuber can activate both HDR10+ and Frame Generation.

[Napoleonic S]

Originally posted by JohnnyPC-2013:

Originally posted by 13xforever:

Enabling Frame Generation removes scRGB option, so it might also remove HDR10+

I have a 3090, so I don't have access to Nvidia's Frame Generation (looking forward to FSR 3, thanks AMD).

Watch the video I shared; the YouTuber can activate both HDR10+ and Frame Generation.

Have you turned on the hdr10+ gaming mode on your display before playing the game?

[Illrigger]

So a minor necro here:

HDR10+ Gaming and HDR10+ are not the same thing.

The OP's TV (and all Samsung and some TCL TVs from the last few years) is HDR10+ capable, yes, but HDR10+ Gaming is a new feature added to higher-end Samsung TVs in the 2023 model year.

It's a difference in the way color profiles are applied. Some (very simplified) background on HDR color profiles:

HDR10 (the original and most common HDR standard) uses one color profile, set by the media or application across the entire time you play or use it. It's a single static profile that is determined by either a key in the beginning of the video or by the application settings.

Dolby Vision and HDR10+ are also static profiles, but instead of using one profile, they use multiple ones. These can be set as often as each frame of video, or as seldom as when a scene in a movie starts or level loads in a game, but they are still pre-determined and do not change once called.

Dolby Vision Gaming and HDR10+ Gaming are dynamic profiles, generated on the fly for each frame generated. They aren't as well designed as pre-determined profiles, but they allow for much more flexibility for games. They aren't broadly supported yet; the XBox Series S/X has supported DVG for a while now, and as far as I know only CP2077 has HDR10+G support.

[Napoleonic S]

Originally posted by Illrigger:

So a minor necro here:

HDR10+ Gaming and HDR10+ are not the same thing.

The OP's TV (and all Samsung and some TCL TVs from the last few years) is HDR10+ capable, yes, but HDR10+ Gaming is a new feature added to higher-end Samsung TVs in the 2023 model year.

It's a difference in the way color profiles are applied. Some (very simplified) background on HDR color profiles:

HDR10 (the original and most common HDR standard) uses one color profile, set by the media or application across the entire time you play or use it. It's a single static profile that is determined by either a key in the beginning of the video or by the application settings.

Dolby Vision and HDR10+ are also static profiles, but instead of using one profile, they use multiple ones. These can be set as often as each frame of video, or as seldom as when a scene in a movie starts or level loads in a game, but they are still pre-determined and do not change once called.

Dolby Vision Gaming and HDR10+ Gaming are dynamic profiles, generated on the fly for each frame generated. They aren't as well designed as pre-determined profiles, but they allow for much more flexibility for games. They aren't broadly supported yet; the XBox Series S/X has supported DVG for a while now, and as far as I know only CP2077 has HDR10+G support.

I found the standard is irrelevant in practical use...