Phantom Liberty vs Vanilla

[Bullett00th]

Considering getting the vanilla game given the discount, but I want to understand its relation to Phantom Liberty.

Is Phantom Liberty fixing certain issues that are still present in the vanilla game? Will I have a lesser experience if I don't get PL from the get-go?

And if I complete the main game and then buy PL, will it be a seamless transition or is PL a separate experience with a new character? In other words, am I better off starting a new game with both vanilla and expansion bought?

Appreciated

[Crimsomrider]

Phantom Liberty is a seamless expansion which by every meaning of the word expands the in-game content significantly.

The plot of it usually starts halfway through the game, but depending on which main questlines you're following first it may even be late game.

As for would you have a lesser experience for not having it, well...

In the base game the Pacifica district had practically zero content when compared to the rest. So the expansion basically brings much needed content to the district and puts Pacifica back on the map as it brings life to a walled-off area of it which did not even exist prior to 2.0 and now it feels like a district just like any other, perhaps even better than the vanilla districts ^^

So I'd say it is very much worth having because of how seamless and great CDPR's expansions are.

[Bullett00th]

Appreciated. I'll get the main game then and then get the expansion on a bigger discount and start both

[ItsNaughtyDOG]

Honestly, the ultimate edition is probably the best deal right now, but if you're hesitant. I would do the base game. I might be biased here because i have over 500 hours in the game, and absolutely love it, but Phantom Liberty is very, very good. It adds a lot of new activities to the game, new loot and weapons, and a whole new part of the world to explore, which might be my favorite zone in the game. So, if you haven't made your purchase yet, I would watch some videos on Phantom Liberty to see if it would be something you are interested in.

[Bullett00th]

Originally posted by ItsNaughtyDOG:

Honestly, the ultimate edition is probably the best deal right now, but if you're hesitant. I would do the base game. I might be biased here because i have over 500 hours in the game, and absolutely love it, but Phantom Liberty is very, very good. It adds a lot of new activities to the game, new loot and weapons, and a whole new part of the world to explore, which might be my favorite zone in the game. So, if you haven't made your purchase yet, I would watch some videos on Phantom Liberty to see if it would be something you are interested in.

I definitely AM interested in Phantom Liberty, I'm just hesitant about whether I should dive into the game with it enabled from the get-go or is it ok if I do the base game and then buy and play Phantom Liberty

[Simbolic]

The expansions is different then others it's not really mean't to be played after playing through all of the original base game. It's also not like those expansions that continue your game after beating it. It coordinates a bit with the base game content and characters as well feeling more like uncut content then additional content.

[Zebedee]

Aye, Phantom Liberty works as an additional area to Night City and the main storyline works like a major branch off the main story of the base game which wraps up before base game's story finishes. As the first reply to thread correctly says, it's not something you'll open up straight away anyway - it's hours into the game on a normal playthrough.

[cszolee79]

Buy both. PL adds stuff to base game like different endings, new cars, gigs, new weapons, new cyberware, tier 5++ etc that are really useful. Plus a very good quest line that is definitely worth playing and may be the best of CDPR's storytelling.
And Idris Elba :)

[catch22atplay]

The best price now is getting the ultimate edition. Sale may not be when you need it. It's pretty seamless or transparent. I've only just got the 1st FL quest as i'm 1/2 way thru the main quests. Wish i had a few more upgrades. These dudes really soaking up the bullets. And that 1st FL quest "Dog eat Dog" is hella long with tons of action. But so far best quest in the game imo. So well worth the price. And now i have access to the Relic system. Which tbh is pretty OP. So some things i will not be selecting or else i'd have to increase difficulty which i guess is ok.

Phantom Liberty well worth the price imo

[Lorem Ipsum]

Since phantom liberty is relatively new it may be awhile before it's on sale again. I bought both during the recent sale, and I'm glad I did. Dogtown is an interesting area with lots of new things to do, you can unlock the relic ability, there are airdrops to score new loot quite often, and in them you can get my favorite gun in the game, the taigan, a revolver that makes enemies explode.

[Bullett00th]

Originally posted by cszolee79:

Buy both. PL adds stuff to base game like different endings, new cars, gigs, new weapons, new cyberware, tier 5++ etc that are really useful. Plus a very good quest line that is definitely worth playing and may be the best of CDPR's storytelling.
And Idris Elba :)

I can only afford to buy the base game atm, so PL's relation to base game defines whether I'll play the base game after buying or after PL is on a bigger sale later on

[Tokenn]

Originally posted by Bullett00th:

I can only afford to buy the base game atm, so PL's relation to base game defines whether I'll play the base game after buying or after PL is on a bigger sale later on

You will miss out on nothing by just playing the base game. It's very replayable (IMO) and starting a new game with a different lifepath, different V character, different attributes will only add to your enjoyment. It takes a fair amount of playing just to _learn_ the game and its mechanics, and all the possibilities it contains...a full playthrough will set you up for the wonder that is Phantom Liberty.

[justfaded]

Originally posted by Bullett00th:

Originally posted by cszolee79:

Buy both. PL adds stuff to base game like different endings, new cars, gigs, new weapons, new cyberware, tier 5++ etc that are really useful. Plus a very good quest line that is definitely worth playing and may be the best of CDPR's storytelling.
And Idris Elba :)

I can only afford to buy the base game atm, so PL's relation to base game defines whether I'll play the base game after buying or after PL is on a bigger sale later on

Imo you can safely get it later. However the expansion raises the level cap to 60 and 2.0 seems to have slowed down exp farming from random spawns so most of your exp comes from gigs and quests. Meaning it might be harder to reach level 60 if you get the expansion too late.

[ItsNaughtyDOG]

Originally posted by Tokenn:

Originally posted by Bullett00th:

I can only afford to buy the base game atm, so PL's relation to base game defines whether I'll play the base game after buying or after PL is on a bigger sale later on

You will miss out on nothing by just playing the base game. It's very replayable (IMO) and starting a new game with a different lifepath, different V character, different attributes will only add to your enjoyment. It takes a fair amount of playing just to _learn_ the game and its mechanics, and all the possibilities it contains...a full playthrough will set you up for the wonder that is Phantom Liberty.

I 100 percent second this.