After 3 years, Cyberpunk is an ''epic'' game or just ''better'' than before?

[Try again loser]

So, i remember in 2020 this game was basically a meme and had really bad reviews
After 3 years the game has like 600.000 reviews with ''very positive''

Today Cyberpunk is what should have been in 2020, like an epic game like Witcher 3, or just better than the mess released in 2020?

[Zero McDol]

It will never be the demo. If that's what you're looking for, then don't bother. It is however, going to be better than before, once 2.1 releases. Well, mostly better than before.

edit:
Overall, this game will be in the top 10 of my favorite RPG's to play once 2.1 releases. It was already high on my list, but this update will definitely tip the scales.

[Zoid13]

i love the game. its up there in my all time faves.

[RÊYTH]

This is my favorite game [despite bugs, and odd things] since the "The Elder Scrolls" serieses [also buggy with odd stuff.]

There are other games near the top of my list, but CP-2077 just has that "it" factor for me.

So, is that "EPIC"? I dunno. Is it even valid to ask?

[Zebedee]

It depends on what you thought it would be in 2020, and the very online narrative about the game was always slightly at odds with the PC version and how it was received. However, if you're a PS4 player then you might not have been able to play the game at launch, and you most definitely can't play it in its current form now either, so not much change there...

[Tokenn]

With the Phantom Liberty expansion, I would call it epic. Dwelling on the past is useless.

[av3]

Witcher III was massively hated after release too, but nowadays it's one of the best games.
I think it's always mostly about the time. For me C2077 is definitely epic, not just better.

[almagnus1]

It's worth a play IMO

[⎝⧹Za Furan⧸⎠]

Epic game.
The best redemption arc of videogame's history (no it isn't No Man's Sky, despite the updates that game is still a dull procedural mess).

[loppantorkel]

It's an amazing game, although tainted by the launch which plenty of people never will get around.
Technically it may be more impressive than Witcher 3, but for its time Witcher 3 was probably better, or more enjoyable. Tough to compare though.

[Arasine]

Its much better now of course, but its more like GTA + Borderlands than the Witcher games.
Not enough interactivity to warrant a simulation or RPG.. in your home the only interactions are looking in the mirror or watching the looped TV, or checking generic spam emails on the computer for example. The veneer is quite thick, but scrape at it and you see the illusion. This is just a pew pew game with cars.

[PanPan]

Just better and more content, the big difference will be because you have a better GPU...

[mutantspicy]

AFAIC this is the second best game of the year and perhaps one of most emotionally compelling stories in any game period, that said it will never top The Witcher III.

[TH3R4BB!T]

To much expectations and ambition in 2020, led to an unfinished game with lots of left out. Of course people turned their backs to it then. It is now more to the promised game, still missing a lot, and still not give that 'epic' feeling. The reveal was epic, Witcher 3 made me having no doubt buying Cyberpunk in pre-order. Sadly, it was unplayable, now in 2023 (the year Johnny blew up the tower), CDPR blew up the game, rebuild it, and gave something better. Not good, not epic, better. But I still love the old perks, and game play, and it was solid at 1.6. Let's see what 2.1 adds, it sounded like a mini-overhaul on lots of parts.

The story is still good, nothing changed in the years, so that is good. I still have to play the DLC, it looks like others enjoyed it a lot.

[Grimmx]

Just finished the game for the first time and i really enjoyed it.
I got to lvl 45 with a shotgun/LMG build and was quite OP at second hardest setting at the end. (hard?)
Didnt use any special stuff exept just upgrade now and then.
Did most side mission storylines as well, and liked most of them.
The Tarrot card and killing cyber psychos ended up beeing just filler/xp quests wich was a little dissapointing, because i thought it was some deeper meaning behind both questlines, it wasnt.

All in all a really good RPG with great graphics.
Highly recommended.

Ill buy the addon when its at 50%+ sale for sure. (because im cheap)


EDIT:
I think its better than Witcher 3 because you have more build options.
In W3 i feel dex/roll monkey is the only viable fun option.
I have yet to finish W3 because i found combat lacking/easy.
Just my 2 cents.

[Peter Stark]

When it released, I was a bit sour regarding technicalities, but having 2080 I could play it with eye-candy and without most egregious tech difficulties. I still poured some 80hrs to it in Dec 2020.

Release version 1.06:
+The city was awesome.
+Story had some really high beats and characters+location+actions just oozed atmosphere
But..
-cars were horrible to control
-skill tree was forgetabble
-there couple of op strats - hide with silenced pisto
-bugs were everywhere killing the atmosphere and sometimes making it pain to play
-Story has some lows and I could not dial into keanu, sorry Johnny mood/vibe. It got better to the end, but yeah we had issues.

In all, it was something to remember, it impressed at places, it failed at others.
Truth was, you could feel it can be special, but they just ran out of time to do some editing in story to sync tone, to polish bugs etc.
Memorable but self-defeated.

Now when Morrowind came, it was borderline unplayable... oblivion, Skyrim with reverse flying dragons, hehe. Bugs in Outer Worlds, Witcher 3 v1... etc. So there was some hope.


2.0 + Phantom Liberty
- Phantom Liberty expansion is very good, thick with meaning. Mind you I am after credit roll but before main events in V's story, where under some circumstances things can go different. Jury is still out there, not sure what will happen.
- Again, expansion is very very good. Not sure if it is that I escaped from Starfield into Phantom Liberty and everything in PL oozes characterization and emotion.
- Cars are now fun.
- Skill tree is actually usable and feeds well into action
- Items are much readable for me now and cyberware has such a direct impact.
- Skill and Items being more readable feeds into very well combinable playstyles, I like.
- Encountered very little bugs. it is a bit more polished graphically.


By me 2.0 Phantom Liberty is definitely GOTY material, mainly because they tread shades of cyberpunk, thriller motives with more determination.