Nvidia Driver Version

[Zid]

does this game forces you to install a certain version of Nvidia driver? or it just lets you play as is? i dont want to update my graphics card just for one game, thanks in advance.

p.d currently on 528.02 nvidia driver

[Draconifors]

I played using drivers from 2022 until another game wanted me to update them earlier this month.

[TH3R4BB!T]

Why not update drivers? And in every update there are features that are also add to the game, it could cause crashes or graphical 'errors' if you are not updating

[papalazarou]

I always update to the latest drivers including dlss. Can’t remember the last time I had an issue. But what I do notice is that performance and stability seems to improve .

[SiEgE]

Originally posted by TH3 SU!C!D4L R4BB!T:

Why not update drivers? And in every update there are features that are also add to the game, it could cause crashes or graphical 'errors' if you are not updating

Some gpus sh*t the bed when you actually update the drivers, especially older ones that are on the brink of losing support from the gpu maker.
Older gpus are notorious of breaking, crashing, losing performance, or even stopping working whatsoever after certain features are added to the gpu driver.

My old ass gpu had BSOD-level issues because of Phong shaders after certain version of drivers. Nvidia didn't even care to patch it. The only 2 choices I had - not to update my drivers, or hack out the Phong shaders out of the games I've played.

Originally posted by papalazarou:

I always update to the latest drivers including dlss. Can’t remember the last time I had an issue. But what I do notice is that performance and stability seems to improve .

Except when it doesn't. Also, the update that included telemetry gave Nvidia gpus a severe performance damage, which, as you can guess, was never "fixed", because the only way to fix it would be to remove the said telemetry.. so no, not every update would bring you better performance. Sometimes, it'll take it away, forever.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by SiEgE:

Except when it doesn't. Also, the update that included telemetry gave Nvidia gpus a severe performance damage, which, as you can guess, was never "fixed", because the only way to fix it would be to remove the said telemetry.. so no, not every update would bring you better performance. Sometimes, it'll take it away, forever.

You describe edge cases. 99.9% of the time it's most beneficial to maintain updated drivers.

[SiEgE]

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

Originally posted by SiEgE:

Except when it doesn't. Also, the update that included telemetry gave Nvidia gpus a severe performance damage, which, as you can guess, was never "fixed", because the only way to fix it would be to remove the said telemetry.. so no, not every update would bring you better performance. Sometimes, it'll take it away, forever.

You describe edge cases. 99.9% of the time it's most beneficial to maintain updated drivers.

Nope. Almost every old card user continuously reports performance degradation. Not all of them, but a fair share of them. Mainly because newer features are often "emulated" on older cards, and such "emulation" comes at cost.
It mostly boils down to difference in architecture, some local bit size discrepancies and all that voodoo bs, but eventually leads to odd behaviour from old hardware.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by SiEgE:

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

You describe edge cases. 99.9% of the time it's most beneficial to maintain updated drivers.

Nope. Almost every old card user continuously reports performance degradation. Not all of them, but a fair share of them. Mainly because newer features are often "emulated" on older cards, and such "emulation" comes at cost.
It mostly boils down to difference in architecture, some local bit size discrepancies and all that voodoo bs, but eventually leads to odd behaviour from old hardware.

What you describe is called "obsolescence" and is the natural death of technology.

Buy a PC more than once every 10 years and this isn't an issue.

[SiEgE]

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

Originally posted by SiEgE:

Nope. Almost every old card user continuously reports performance degradation. Not all of them, but a fair share of them. Mainly because newer features are often "emulated" on older cards, and such "emulation" comes at cost.
It mostly boils down to difference in architecture, some local bit size discrepancies and all that voodoo bs, but eventually leads to odd behaviour from old hardware.

What you describe is called "obsolescence" and is the natural death of technology.

Buy a PC more than once every 10 years and this isn't an issue.

You're changing the subject.
papalazarou and TH3 SU!C!D4L R4BB!T said, roughly, "there is no reason not to update drivers. Updating drivers is always about improving performance and stability". To which I've answered with "that is not always the case, and there are reasons to keep an older version of a driver".

[TH3R4BB!T]

Okay, so in short, it does not force you, you may take the risk of a game crashing because the GPU does not support the features that is used by the game. Yes, a game can also lock you out, because you are using old software. Upgrading hardware and software is normal in the world, if you want to play newer games, or an upgraded version of the game. Steam does, in some cases, support downgrading of games, and you then can play a version that supports your driver

[Verios44]

Im no Nvidia user, im team red. Radeon Rx 6750XT. Basically a 3070 equivilant in all but dlss/rtx.

Im on latest driver 23.9.2 and noticed a slight fps gain after last update.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by SiEgE:

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

What you describe is called "obsolescence" and is the natural death of technology.

Buy a PC more than once every 10 years and this isn't an issue.

You're changing the subject.
papalazarou and TH3 SU!C!D4L R4BB!T said, roughly, "there is no reason not to update drivers. Updating drivers is always about improving performance and stability". To which I've answered with "that is not always the case, and there are reasons to keep an older version of a driver".

It is also "not always the case" that a newer drug has less side effects for everyone, but your doctor is still going to steer you towards newer medicine even if there's a slight chance that in your particular case the results could be worse. Because the statistics say that the overwhelming odds are a better outcome with newer medicine.

The statistics say there are overwhelming odds (to the tune of 99.9%) that the results of maintaining driver updates are better than letting them slip behind regardless of the age of the card or the PC or any other factor.

It is simply bad advice to encourage people to use outdated drivers. It could, rarely, be a solution to a problem, but is much more likely to create problems.

These days, since Win10, most people don't even realize their PC is auto-updating their graphics drivers anyway.

[TorMazila]

"There are lie, big lie and statistics"
"Statistics say" your mileage may vary and you should always be prepared to rollback. Perhaps, reading some reviews/benchmarks may be helpful.

General rule is you're better staying with older versions if the hardware is old and "get the bleeding edge" if you've got something released recently.