I missed the netrunner build pre 2.0

[ChaosFred]

Back then, could have like Cyberpsychosis quickhack running with less than 5 RAM costs, spreads to one other enemy and have contagion follow up which spreads to like 4 or 5 enemies around, with sure chance.

So where's this build now gone?? Nerfed hard?

[Mei]

I think Netrunning is a lot better now than it was back on 1.63. That said I do miss the launch version where it was just super powerful and fun to use.

[Ronald_Raygun!]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Badmanticore:

Netrunning is still extremely strong lol.

I started a completely NG with this release and am close to level 20, yes. I've yet to find a good ranged precision weapon (which is sad). I've still found netrunning to be by far my best skill. Yes, from 1.X you can't just resolve late game NCPD quests in two quick hacks, but is that a bad thing?

[Hidden Gunman]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Badmanticore:

Netrunning is still extremely strong lol.

Cyber witch...very powerful.

[Entoarox]

A common gameplay style - stealthrunning, has been nerfed heavily, not being doable until you get to tier 3 cyberdeck & quickhacks, which is quite obviously, meant to be about halfway through the game's progression.

Is it then any surprise that people who enjoyed that kind of gameplay the most are sad that CDPR completely erased the early-game stealthrunner in their rework?

Quite frankly, I dislike that netrunning has been made to "work like in the anime" at the detriment to gameplay styles that do not fit that expectation.

And as to people who think netrunning is OP, quite frankly, it is no more OP then any other weapon you spend your effort on, by the end-game, any skill tree can make you "OP" with the weapon('s) in question.

[Wedge]

Go play through with -70% damage scale melee then do a -70% damage scale on the netrunner I assure you netrunning is leagues easier. If it was even easier then it is now I would say the nerf was justified.

[Hidden Gunman]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Entoarox:

A common gameplay style - stealthrunning, has been nerfed heavily, not being doable until you get to tier 3 cyberdeck & quickhacks, which is quite obviously, meant to be about halfway through the game's progression.

Is it then any surprise that people who enjoyed that kind of gameplay the most are sad that CDPR completely erased the early-game stealthrunner in their rework?

Quite frankly, I dislike that netrunning has been made to "work like in the anime" at the detriment to gameplay styles that do not fit that expectation.

And as to people who think netrunning is OP, quite frankly, it is no more OP then any other weapon you spend your effort on, by the end-game, any skill tree can make you "OP" with the weapon('s) in question.

Around the level 40's player is simply OP full stop.

Even with the body attributes of a sickly nerd my v can still go melee and win with pretty much any non-quest named opponents using top tier gorilla arms, at level 50+.

[ArcticWolf]

I gave up the game since 2.0. I wish I didn't waste money on the expansion

[Omnicide]

The only increase in challenge I see here is arguably in leveling up, and only if you are deadset on a hacker only build, not supplementing it with stealth takedowns and gunplay.

15 int for overclock is all you need to spam ultimate hacks, I can shut off 5 or 6 goons even if I don't try to discount my hacks at all and just take the hit to health. I would have been all for a nerf to netrunning but that is not what this is. It's just the illusion of a more complex system.

Contagion is way more busted than before, the explosion is way too strong for what it is, you turn everyone into a grenade with the click of a button and all you have to do is light it. Bolt shots work absurdly well for this since you don't have to aim past the first target and the burn is guaranteed.

If anything this was a massive buff to hybrids such that it makes the old short circ on crit mechanic look tame.

CDPR gave you a bite of the same exact baby food, but this time they made airplane noises and it blew your mind. Too easily impressed if you ask me.

[deadshot.dairy]

skill issue

[Wedge]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Ronald_Raygun!:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Badmanticore:

Netrunning is still extremely strong lol.

I started a completely NG with this release and am close to level 20, yes. I've yet to find a good ranged precision weapon (which is sad). I've still found netrunning to be by far my best skill. Yes, from 1.X you can't just resolve late game NCPD quests in two quick hacks, but is that a bad thing?

Snag Fenrir, Divided we Stand and Shingen as soon as your out of Watson. They're all easily accessible and very strong for nets. Fen is borderline broken shoot people with that and their brains turn off a lot of the times lmao.

[LordOfWarcraft]

maybe these builds will help you https://cyberpunk2077.wiki.fextralife.com/Builds

[ChaosFred]

imo after few more hours playing:
Netrunner still nerfed hard for mobs or when cleaning up a room because you now have to setup more quickhacks than before or waiting your overclock cooldown. Especially with the lost of guaranteed spread on most quickhacks (No more ultimate QH spread on tetratonic decks duh... )

But on the other side, feels buffed slightly againts single target because now there is no cooldown for quickhacks and less dependent on those "buff on takedown/kill" perks.

I agree that seems now hybrid build is more promoted. Time to pick up Skippy again, I guess?

Luckily there is mods which could fix that, albeit feels off not doing it naturally.

[Ananym]

Strength is irrelevent, the game has no difficulty anyway
But point-click wipe everything is not remotely interesting, when this absolutely should have been the forefront mechanic of the game

[Omnicide]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Pseudonym:

Strength is irrelevent, the game has no difficulty anyway
But point-click wipe everything is not remotely interesting, when this absolutely should have been the forefront mechanic of the game

Dude preach it. I can't believe they left access points as essentially treasure chests with a different lockpicking minigame.

Physically breaching a network should have been a key mechanic, giving you a reason to stealth into a location and hang out for a bit securing your advantages before you unload digital death on everyone.

Basically you'd gate ultimate hacks behind fully breaching a network, and enemy netrunners would actually be dangerous if you didn't bother to gain that advantage first. You could add perks to be able to hack access points through line of sight or w/e but it should still be grounded in the world instead of just making the game essentially turn based right off the bat.