Cyberware Substat reroll?

[Wereriche]

Wondering if this something that we can do?

I'm trying to pull either Headshot DMG or CRIT DMG bonus on substats. Is there a way to do this?

[TH3R4BB!T]

What you mean? I know there is a perk that let you choose between three upgrades, when you upgrade a cyberware, but it is still random what you get as stats. Sometimes the starts even lower from previous stats

[Crimsomrider]

Yes, by investing in the Technical perks intended for cyberware stat modifiers and upgrades.

Any time you upgrade a cyberware piece, the offered stat modifiers will change. If you're lucky enough you'll get one that has Headshot DMG and I believe CRIT DMG is only above EPIC rarity.

Also stat modifiers are shared between all pieces of the same tier when it comes to selecting them, so you can actually put Headshot DMG on all cyberware eventually by rerolling stuff.

That's how I got 60% Quickhack DMG total across all my cyberware just by rerolling stuff and putting Quickhack DMG on all pieces.

[Wereriche]

Say I buy a Tier 5 Cyberware then upgrade to +1 and didnt get the stat I want... Do I just reload a save?

Or do I waste eddies and T5 comps to get the stats I want?

[Crimsomrider]

Stat modifiers are sort of pre-rolled in advance by a dozen, so you'll not be getting different ones when you reload a save.

The way I manipulated my stat modifier rolls was to never sell any low tier cyberware. That way I could get through bad roles by upgrading low tier ones until I got good rolls for my actual cyberware.

If you're at T5 though, then the only way is to keep wasting T5 resources and rebuying the cyberware piece I suppose. Which is precisely why I did it my way early on, so I don't have to waste resources. The whole system is honestly terrible and counter-intuitive.

[Wereriche]

Cool. Whelp, Im stuck at wasting T5 for rerolls lol

Good thing airdrops n carboosting exists

[Wereriche]

Just to clarify... if you get the stat you want on 5+, it does not increase when upgrading to 5++, right?

[Crimsomrider]

I don't know honestly because upgrading is quite bugged so some stats stay exactly the same, some go up, some because of the bug go down.

So I can't definitively answer that unfortunately. I stopped worrying about min-maxing stat values because of this, so as long as it has the stat I want for my playstyle I just slap it onto cyberware and forget about it ^^

[Jandi]

On the first upgrade 5+ I never pick the stats I want, I use it as a filler T5 upgrade. On the final T5++ upgrade that cost 200 T5 components I usually just pick the 1 out of 3 stats modifiers that gives me the most points in stats. EXCEPT carrying capacity, picking that is a waste since there is tons of shards you can acquire from air drops.

First pick is always the same with the base stats, RNG is on the 2nd and 3rd upgrade. I guess if you are "mid maxing" you can quick save for your desired stat results... Also pay attention to the stat modifier that offer you just additive stats compared to percentage stat buffs.

Personally noticed there are some stat modifiers from the upgrade that I didn't see a lot in game and it was reloading speed. Went melee build but already felt too powerful so paired those stats with the T5 vest in wardrobe that offered +8% reload speed cause reloading is a pain sometimes for iconics.

[Jandi]

Originally posted by Wereriche:

Just to clarify... if you get the stat you want on 5+, it does not increase when upgrading to 5++, right?

Nope, it does not boost the current T5+ stat modifier you are going to upgrade for T5++. Also you can always preview what stats are getting a boost or not by pressing E, not holding E.

[Wereriche]

Cool. That proves less costly in my expensive bid to rerolling for crit dmg

[Sigrikka]

I am really glad I read these posts. I couldn't make heads or tails of what was going on with the cyberware upgrades - nothing was intuitive or made sense... why would a piece of cyberware in my brain allow me to carry more items...?

Now that I know its all rng, I'll stop caring and edit my save file.