BUG: T5++ cyberware upgrade inferior to T5+ ?

[warlock]

For many cyberware equipment items, T5++ stats (max level) are worse than T5+ stats.
For majority of them, additional stats ( 3 random stats at the bottom ) are worse for T5++, and for many of them even their major stats (like armor) are worse at T5++.

[Cat]

From what I remember this is a display bug, it doesn't take into account previous upgrades in some cases and only displays the base value, you can test it by saving before upgrading and then checking the finished result (by comparing stats) instead of what it shows you.

[charly4711]

Yes, try a quicksave before upgrading.
When you leave the ripperdoc you get an autosave. IIRC originally the cyberware seemed weaker, but once I reloaded the autosave from AFTER the upgrade, the game recalculated and things seemed ok.

[Detective Costeau]

I *think* what's happening is that if you have the Tech perks that increase your bonuses from cyberware, the effects of those aren't shown in the upgrade prieview (but do apply after upgrading).
I saw several upgrades that looked like downgrades, but were actually better once I did them, anyway.
Still something I hope they fix in 2.02, but at least the actual upgrade doesn't seem to be broken (for me) just the preview display.

[Vahal]

Originally posted by Detective Costeau:

I *think* what's happening is that if you have the Tech perks that increase your bonuses from cyberware, the effects of those aren't shown in the upgrade prieview (but do apply after upgrading).
I saw several upgrades that looked like downgrades, but were actually better once I did them, anyway.
Still something I hope they fix in 2.02, but at least the actual upgrade doesn't seem to be broken (for me) just the preview display.

Sadly it doesn't work like this for me. This is a real downgrade. My balistic corpocessor 2+ has better secondary stats than a 4+ one... And if I upgrade it to +3 I pass from 10.1 on stealth damages to 5.2 (for example).
And this issue plague many implants...

I tried to replace skill and stat points, looked at the stat after implant being placed... Nothing.

Frankly, with the guns disappearing after being drop by dead npcs, the stupid broken guns mechanic, the destroyed craft mechanic, I start to be close to upset by this 2.0...