Spoilers! Your thoughts on Songbird?

[Jedster]

After finishing almost all ending variations of the PL expansion, I am kinda torn on the cheracter of Songbird.On one hand she was forced and blackmailed into FIA and blackwall shait. On the other, she knowingly and willingly lied to everyone involved with no intention of helping V or anyone else besides herself.

What is your take on this and which PL ending is your head cannon?

[Vault Traveler]

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[Zoid13]

they all lying manipulative scum :P
reed in a government dog yes man that gets the job given done no matter what.
songbird tragic compulsive manipulator with trust issues. her own goal is the priority.

my head cannon. v's character would imo send her to the moon!

[Mander]

She gave us the chance to consider the value of our own survival. And its cost.
She is a killer, a liar, a despicable person… but so is our V. And both are desperate, by design or accident.
What price is too much for survival?
Sending Songbird to the Moon, for me, is the only ending where V can still face the looking glass and say to themselves: surviving is not enough. I want to be worthy of living. I want to do, for once, something that is beyond myself.
Because no one can save me, and my most trusted friends and allies are too weak to make a difference without dying themselves… so, I will help someone who is just like me. I must.
Because I understand all too well their desperation. And in their shoes, I would have done what they did (if not I did it already).
And fck N-USA and Arasaka both, if they stand in my way.

Helping someone who is just like V, give the grim reaper the middle finger… what better victory is there?

[wickerworks]

Songbird is as similar to V as V is to Johnny. It made so much more sense to me that V would help her instead of helping the NUSA gov't. As Johnny and many characters put it, the gov't is no different from the corps that fund it.

Also, Alex gets to live. Giving the coin to Alex felt so right in a movie ending sort of way.

Reed in the other ending is miserable. I think dying so Songbird can live is, deep down, what he would have wanted but it goes against his principles. Heck, he was unusually slow in shooting V in the end. It's almost like he hesitated.

Lastly, though this is really just my wishful thinking, if you go for The Sun ending, V goes on an outer space heist on the Crystal Palace. With So Mi on the moon and likely okay (she sent a souvenir after all), who's to say V won't be working with her on this heist? She's still one of the best netrunners alive, even without using the Blackwall.

In my head canon, So Mi will help V on the Crystal Palace mission as V tries to find a way to prolong her own life by working with Mr. Blue. Oh and in return, you'll need to help So Mi escape from the people experimenting on her on the moon.

[Mander]

Originally posted by wickerworks:

Songbird is as similar to V as V is to Johnny. It made so much more sense to me that V would help her instead of helping the NUSA gov't. As Johnny and many characters put it, the gov't is no different from the corps that fund it.

Also, Alex gets to live. Giving the coin to Alex felt so right in a movie ending sort of way.

Reed in the other ending is miserable. I think dying so Songbird can live is, deep down, what he would have wanted but it goes against his principles. Heck, he was unusually slow in shooting V in the end. It's almost like he hesitated.

Lastly, though this is really just my wishful thinking, if you go for The Sun ending, V goes on an outer space heist on the Crystal Palace. With So Mi on the moon and likely okay (she sent a souvenir after all), who's to say V won't be working with her on this heist? She's still one of the best netrunners alive, even without using the Blackwall.

In my head canon, So Mi will help V on the Crystal Palace mission as V tries to find a way to prolong her own life by working with Mr. Blue. Oh and in return, you'll need to help So Mi escape from the people experimenting on her on the moon.

Good headcanon, similar to mine: with V cured, they'll need the help of one of the best netrunner alive to face what is to come. And what is to come, will probably come from the other side of the Blackwall.
Which poses an… interesting interrogative: what IF, Blue Eye and other AIs are preparing, from the Moon, a “third” challenger, ready to take action to prevent Netwatch humanity OR Evil! Ais to win over the other? So Mi doesn’t need to be a captive in this scenario. She could help willingly.

Maybe in Cyberpunk 2079, we’ll be a member of a party of legends (V, So Mi, chromed out borgs like Shaitan), tasked with the challenging objective of keeping the frail Status Quo, reducing the power of both governments, megacorps and Blackwall Ais alike.

[DocBravo]

I chose her ending as my first time in PL. I was PISSED.
I let her have her "dream" but on the next play, I'm going to have a guide and F over any NPC to get the best money and drops.
She'll never see me coming.

[Nostromo]

Songbird is a lying, murdering, selfish ♥♥♥♥♥. My kind of girl. Because of obstacles, because she was made like this. Used and thrown away as a tool, same like V. And I enjoyed protecting her and killing every person standing on her way, it was epic. And though, I've seen every ending, sending her to the Moon is my own cannon. I kinda fell in love with her character, PL story is so cool, and sad.

[Coffee Addict]

my thoughts on songbird is simple, she is a corpo rat and like all corpo rats i wish her a very painful death

Originally posted by Jedster:

which PL ending is your head cannon?

dont fear the reaper, johnny and V showing gonks like david how true legends are born

[subjenna]

Gave in to Reed at the very end because I liked him and didn't want to kill him. So Mi got what she deserved, but she stayed alive and in the hands of her father figure.

[Skelevra]

Originally posted by wickerworks:

Songbird is as similar to V as V is to Johnny. It made so much more sense to me that V would help her instead of helping the NUSA gov't. As Johnny and many characters put it, the gov't is no different from the corps that fund it.

Also, Alex gets to live. Giving the coin to Alex felt so right in a movie ending sort of way.

Reed in the other ending is miserable. I think dying so Songbird can live is, deep down, what he would have wanted but it goes against his principles. Heck, he was unusually slow in shooting V in the end. It's almost like he hesitated.

Lastly, though this is really just my wishful thinking, if you go for The Sun ending, V goes on an outer space heist on the Crystal Palace. With So Mi on the moon and likely okay (she sent a souvenir after all), who's to say V won't be working with her on this heist? She's still one of the best netrunners alive, even without using the Blackwall.

In my head canon, So Mi will help V on the Crystal Palace mission as V tries to find a way to prolong her own life by working with Mr. Blue. Oh and in return, you'll need to help So Mi escape from the people experimenting on her on the moon.

I agree.

sending her to the moon is my canon ending as well, primarly because she can contact V during the Crystal Palace gig and finally help him for real this time to find a cure. And is also the perfect intro mission for Cyberpunk 2 if you think about it =D )