We cannot upgrade weapons in the crafting panel?

[GurumeKun]

I am playing phantom liberty.
I cannot upgrade any of my weapons or clothes ?!

[vile]

Only Iconics can be upgraded.

[Nooneyouknow]

Upgrading is for iconics.

[adema066]

Originally posted by GurumeKun:

I am playing phantom liberty.
I cannot upgrade any of my weapons or clothes ?!

They basically made iconics only mean something now for whatever reason.

[Lyciana]

Originally posted by adema066:

Originally posted by GurumeKun:

I am playing phantom liberty.
I cannot upgrade any of my weapons or clothes ?!

They basically made iconics only mean something now for whatever reason.

Cause it would be too expensive of mats if you could upgrade everything, you need 125.000 of the white mats to make 200 legendary mats! And iconics are also more valueable to upgrade, cause they are scaling better than non-iconics.

[adema066]

Originally posted by Lyciana:

Originally posted by adema066:

They basically made iconics only mean something now for whatever reason.

Cause it would be too expensive of mats if you could upgrade everything, you need 125.000 of the white mats to make 200 legendary mats! And iconics are also more valueable to upgrade, cause they are scaling better than non-iconics.

Yeah, but my point was that the game now limits you to only really playing with iconics for end game, when pre 2.0, you could use any type of gun in any capacity. That doesn't seem like an improvement IMO.

[Zoid13]

Originally posted by adema066:

Originally posted by GurumeKun:

I am playing phantom liberty.
I cannot upgrade any of my weapons or clothes ?!

They basically made iconics only mean something now for whatever reason.

nah. multiple BIS weapons are ++ non iconics
katanas for example. a ++ katana with severance and cyclone is better than any of the iconic katanas.
a ++ knife with 200% headshot damage and 2 mod slots is the BIS knife
ect ect

the hard part is finding a ++ of a weapon with max empty mod slots for you to use.

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as for OP since 2.0 upgrading is only for iconic weapons but the iconics in general no longer have mod slots, they have their unique ability instead.
base weapons can still have mod slots but cant be upgraded and in a lot of cases CAN be the BIS weapons.

[adema066]

Originally posted by Zoid13:

Originally posted by adema066:

They basically made iconics only mean something now for whatever reason.

nah. multiple BIS weapons are ++ non iconics
katanas for example. a ++ katana with severance and cyclone is better than any of the iconic katanas.
a ++ knife with 200% headshot damage and 2 mod slots is the BIS knife
ect ect

the hard part is finding a ++ of a weapon with max empty mod slots for you to use.

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as for OP since 2.0 upgrading is only for iconic weapons but the iconics in general no longer have mod slots, they have their unique ability instead.
base weapons can still have mod slots but cant be upgraded and in a lot of cases CAN be the BIS weapons.

I'm max level with over 70 hours 2.0+ and almost NEVER find ++ weapons, so that doesn't really solve anything. You're still being pushed to use a smaller pool of weapons and the others get sidelined, thus limiting choices/options.

[Zoid13]

and ive got 200+ hours in PL. i find ++ weapons nonstop they drop like candy. when im just running around doing random stuff i get 10+ in about 20 mins of playing.
however its very very hard to find the one you are after with both max mod slots and having them be empty.


my katana
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3049541963

takes out all of the maxtac guys on Vhard in seconds during sandy lol

[adema066]

Originally posted by Zoid13:

and ive got 200+ hours in PL. i find ++ weapons nonstop they drop like candy. when im just running around doing random stuff i get 10+ in about 20 mins of playing.
however its very very hard to find the one you are after with both max mod slots and having them be empty.


my katana
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3049541963

Okay.. therefore proving my point still.. you can search endlessly and not find anything better than an iconic in the way you want it to be.. limiting.. IMO

I've literally been stuck with a + Punknife because I can't find a ++ one and even if I did, there is a small chance it would actually have the stats I want or an open slot and the iconic ones suck and already have stats I can't change.

[Zoid13]

which is the way it should be. you should work for the BIS items no?
id rather earn the best in slot item then just have it handed to me in a box i can loot.

the chimera core iconic mods make it worth looking for the right item for it :)

[adema066]

Originally posted by Zoid13:

which is the way it should be. you should work for the BIS items no?
id rather earn the best in slot item then just have it handed to me in a box i can loot.

the chimera core iconic mods make it worth looking for the right item for it :)

I'd rather have tons of loot that I can pick and choose to upgrade down to any weapon/combination of slotted mods without finding stuff that's already terrible, but to each their own.. I liked having tons more options pre 2.0

[Zoid13]

Originally posted by adema066:

They basically made iconics only mean something now for whatever reason.

Originally posted by adema066:

I've literally been stuck with a + Punknife because I can't find a ++ one and even if I did, there is a small chance it would actually have the stats I want or an open slot and the iconic ones suck and already have stats I can't change.

so...
you're stating that now only iconic have meaning.
while at the same time
saying that your non iconic that isn't even maxed is better than the trash iconic knives?

so you are arguing against your own statement and agreeing with me.
got it.

also "punk knives" (and others) only roll with 150%, normal "knife" roll with 200% headshot
and they can have 2 mod slots.

[adema066]

Originally posted by Zoid13:

Originally posted by adema066:

They basically made iconics only mean something now for whatever reason.

Originally posted by adema066:

I've literally been stuck with a + Punknife because I can't find a ++ one and even if I did, there is a small chance it would actually have the stats I want or an open slot and the iconic ones suck and already have stats I can't change.

so...
you're stating that now only iconic have meaning.
while at the same time
saying that your non iconic that isn't even maxed is better than the trash iconic knives?

so you are arguing against your own statement and agreeing with me.
got it.

also "punk knives" only roll with 150%, normal "knife" roll with 200% headshot
and they can have 2 mod slots.

I'm literally using a Punknife + because there ISN'T a better iconic to use.. not by choice.. I'm limited until I find better because the iconics have stats that are no good to me. I would use an iconic if it had the stats I wanted and it would be better than my +, so you didn't prove anything.

Also, you telling me what a "normal" knife has versus what I want is irrelevant because I should be able to play the game in the way I want.

[Zoid13]

Originally posted by adema066:

Originally posted by Zoid13:

so...
you're stating that now only iconic have meaning.
while at the same time
saying that your non iconic that isn't even maxed is better than the trash iconic knives?

so you are arguing against your own statement and agreeing with me.
got it.

also "punk knives" only roll with 150%, normal "knife" roll with 200% headshot
and they can have 2 mod slots.

I'm literally using a Punknife + because there ISN'T a better iconic to use.. not by choice.. I'm limited until I find better because the iconics have stats that are no good to me. I would use an iconic if it had the stats I wanted and it would be better than my +, so you didn't prove anything.

maybe you don't know what a contradiction is. perhaps you should re-read your initial statement about only iconics having value and that normal items are meaningless before spouting more contradictory nonsense.

im aware your non iconic punk knife is better. thats the whole point... because you said that normal items are worthless while clearly stating that your normal item is better than the iconic lol

[adema066]

Originally posted by Zoid13:

Originally posted by adema066:

I'm literally using a Punknife + because there ISN'T a better iconic to use.. not by choice.. I'm limited until I find better because the iconics have stats that are no good to me. I would use an iconic if it had the stats I wanted and it would be better than my +, so you didn't prove anything.

maybe you don't know what a contradiction is. perhaps you should re-read your initial statement about only iconics having value and that normal items are meaningless before spouting more contradictory nonsense.

im aware your non iconic punk knife is better. thats the whole point... because you said that normal items are worthless lol

It's better for ME, it's not better than an iconic. I am not using an iconic simply because the slots are used and have stats I don't want, but they are INHERENTLY better. No contradictions have been made and I stand by what I've been saying.