Opinion: all builds boil down to “cyber ninja”

[The Alchemist]

Just my humble opinion and hoping I’m wrong..

I was really excited for the perk update but alas it seems build diversity is still a bit lacking

Cool is somewhat useless without intelligence as stealth is too reliant on netrunning
Body and reflexes are OP
Tech is only good for a secondary stat (there are also way less perks here overall when compared to other trees)
Intelligence can be pumped, but again is strongest when paired with body and/or reflexes

Thus: every YouTube build guide title “Hyper Aggressive Cyber Ninja/Samurai Build”

I was really hoping for a true techie or spy build, but looks like we’re all back to sprinting around with katanas and using contagion on cooldown

[Kizuna Dragon]

yea I went tech and cool for a pistol build... i feel.. lackluster

[5ean5ean]

Well youre wrong.

Any revolver can 1 shot everything on very hard with Nerves of Tungsten Steel. With Doom Doom I get 1.5k headshots without stealth bonuses. And it will get even crazier with the relic tree and Vulnerability analytics.

[The Alchemist]

Originally posted by Kizuna Dragon:

yea I went tech and cool for a pistol build... i feel.. lackluster

I made the same exact mistake

I’m forced into netrunning to disable camera

No more revolver silencer so early game stealth kills are so inconsistent even with good position planning and good aim

[The Alchemist]

Originally posted by 5ean5ean:

Well youre wrong.

Any revolver can 1 shot everything on very hard with Nerves of Tungsten Steel.

Nerves of Tungsten Steel is an endgame perk

Also we can’t silence revolvers anymore so useless for stealth

Not sure how this makes me “wrong”

[5ean5ean]

Originally posted by Swampo:

Originally posted by 5ean5ean:

Well youre wrong.

Any revolver can 1 shot everything on very hard with Nerves of Tungsten Steel.

Nerves of Tungsten Steel is an endgame perk

Also we can’t silence revolvers anymore so useless for stealth

Not sure how this makes me “wrong”

Endgame or not you said all cool builds need int and stealth. Im telling you youre wrong. If revolvers had silencers they would be even more broken.

Get a revolver, stack crit damage and stamina, aim for the head. Profit.

[LeftIsBest-James]

My playstyle:
(default)QUIET: sneaky-snappy, jedi-mindtrick on camera
LOUD: remote-cam, cyberpsychosis/contagion/overheat chaos
BACKUP: silenced-scoped-NUE

I carry a pslam1116 and sniper just to fill slots and a bat for cyberpsycho missions.
- I've not had to buy/craft any ammo.
- I've used more ammo in set-scenes (border-smuggling/takemura-bikes) than actual mission.
I only go in LOUD if it's late at night and I need to sleep soon, and don't have time to toy with my food.

[The Alchemist]

Originally posted by 5ean5ean:

Originally posted by Swampo:

Nerves of Tungsten Steel is an endgame perk

Also we can’t silence revolvers anymore so useless for stealth

Not sure how this makes me “wrong”

Endgame or not you said all builds need int and stealth. Im telling you youre wrong.

You can’t objectively say that cool tree wasn’t designed to synergise with intelligence given the abundance of “covert” hacks in the game

Having 2 perks and a specific weapon which isn’t even silence and pretending you have a legit stealth build is copium at best dog

[Blackfrost]

Originally posted by Swampo:

Cool is somewhat useless without intelligence as stealth is too reliant on netrunning

???

[DaylightDemon]

Originally posted by Swampo:

Originally posted by 5ean5ean:

Well youre wrong.

Any revolver can 1 shot everything on very hard with Nerves of Tungsten Steel.

Nerves of Tungsten Steel is an endgame perk

Also we can’t silence revolvers anymore so useless for stealth

Not sure how this makes me “wrong”

since when is level 25 considered endgame?

[The Seventh Son]

Netrunner ninja is just the most "unique" build you can do for Cyberpunk. Not a lot of games with a system like netrunning. We see a lot of netrunning builds because every Youtuber wants to capitalize on it being fun.

However, Netrunners aren't the end allb e all. There's other cyberware you can put in the OS slot, and the new cyberware system really allows you to make a tanky character, if that's your goal.

Throwing knives are also a lot more viable and open up a sort of "commando" build where you use throwing knife for stealth, then swap to something heavier once combat starts up.

The new relic tree is going to add even more depending on the weapon.

There's a lot more than I've mentioned too. Stuff like Throwing enemies at other enemies, making grenades stronger, etc, etc.

Cyber ninja is flashy and will always be a cool concept to make a build out of, doesn't mean it's the only thing viable.

[The Alchemist]

Originally posted by Blackfrost:

Originally posted by Swampo:

Cool is somewhat useless without intelligence as stealth is too reliant on netrunning

???

Disabling camera, resetting optics, etc

Stealth without hacks is tedious and boring

[5ean5ean]

Originally posted by Swampo:

Originally posted by 5ean5ean:

Endgame or not you said all builds need int and stealth. Im telling you youre wrong.

You can’t objectively say that cool tree wasn’t designed to synergise with intelligence given the abundance of “covert” hacks in the game

Having 2 perks and a specific weapon which isn’t even silence and pretending you have a legit stealth build is copium at best dog

Im sorry. What rule says you "HAVE TO BE STEALTH" in the Cool tree. Last time I checked you get a CRIT DAMAGE for investing in cool...not stealth bonuses.

So Cool gives crit damage, One skill gives 100% crit chance for headshots. Revolvers get bonus crit damage. Thats sounds like a great synergy to me. Stealth is just an option. Stop acting like Youtubers are an authority for anything.

[The Alchemist]

Originally posted by DaylightDemon:

Originally posted by Swampo:

Nerves of Tungsten Steel is an endgame perk

Also we can’t silence revolvers anymore so useless for stealth

Not sure how this makes me “wrong”

since when is level 25 considered endgame?

Maybe not endgame but definitely not early-mid

Play styles should be viable at any level (within reason of course)

As of now, stealthing at lower levels with the cool tree is still tedious and janky

[Echo]

let me guess, you didn't even try playing?

[The Alchemist]

Originally posted by Palanki:

let me guess, you didn't even try playing?

Nice Judy icon