Clean Run, no cyberware

[['w']]

Would be nice if we could choose to stay pure, without any cyberware in the system.

[Metadigital]

I think the loss of bodily autonomy is one of the points of the genre, though.

[['w']]

Originally posted by Metadigital:

I think the loss of bodily autonomy is one of the points of the genre, though.

In Shadowrun you can choose to play as a mage for example, who needs her/his essence for spells.

At least at pen and paper go for more bioware, than cyberware, no idea if pen and paper cyberpunk also features bioware.

[CzechKronner]

What's stopping you.

[adema066]

Originally posted by CzechKronner:

What's stopping you.

Limitations in the game?

[Drake]

Originally posted by ZzZz:

Originally posted by Metadigital:

I think the loss of bodily autonomy is one of the points of the genre, though.

In Shadowrun you can choose to play as a mage for example, who needs her/his essence for spells.

At least at pen and paper go for more bioware, than cyberware, no idea if pen and paper cyberpunk also features bioware.

Shadowrun is cyberpunk fantasy, not just pure cyberpunk. There is no magic in CP. There is really no bioware either.

Originally posted by CzechKronner:

What's stopping you.

You're never not clean, you start with already cyberware installed (the link, an eye implant and a chip slot). Then one of the first main objective is to upgrade your eye and get a hand cyberware.

[['w']]

Originally posted by Drake:

Originally posted by ZzZz:

In Shadowrun you can choose to play as a mage for example, who needs her/his essence for spells.

At least at pen and paper go for more bioware, than cyberware, no idea if pen and paper cyberpunk also features bioware.

Shadowrun is cyberpunk fantasy, not just pure cyberpunk. There is no magic in CP. There is really no bioware either.

Originally posted by CzechKronner:

What's stopping you.

You're never not clean, you start with already cyberware installed (the link, an eye implant and a chip slot). Then one of the first main objective is to upgrade your eye and get a hand cyberware.

ah okay, didn't know that there isn't even Bioware.

[Xype]

Originally posted by ZzZz:

Originally posted by Metadigital:

I think the loss of bodily autonomy is one of the points of the genre, though.

In Shadowrun you can choose to play as a mage for example, who needs her/his essence for spells.

At least at pen and paper go for more bioware, than cyberware, no idea if pen and paper cyberpunk also features bioware.

Shadowrun is not cyberpunk though, cyberpunk is based on a pen and paper game from the 80's. I understand the confusion for those of you who think this is an original IP by CDPR but it is not, they needed to stick to the games concept, of which when you create your character cyber implants are part of the creation process.

Shadowrun was only inspired by cyberpunk it isn't true to cyberpunk in any way and never tried to be. In the cyberpunk world magic isn't a thing, but in shadowrun magic works.

[Kenway]

Originally posted by ZzZz:

Would be nice if we could choose to stay pure, without any cyberware in the system.

im pretty sure there might be a mod on nexusmod for that.

[['w']]

Originally posted by Xype:

Originally posted by ZzZz:

In Shadowrun you can choose to play as a mage for example, who needs her/his essence for spells.

At least at pen and paper go for more bioware, than cyberware, no idea if pen and paper cyberpunk also features bioware.

Shadowrun is not cyberpunk though, cyberpunk is based on a pen and paper game from the 80's. I understand the confusion for those of you who think this is an original IP by CDPR but it is not, they needed to stick to the games concept, of which when you create your character cyber implants are part of the creation process.

I know that shadowrun is not the same as cyberpunk ofc, that those are two different approaches to a similar theme, no awakening in cyberpunk, no orcs, trolls and so further I know that.

[Xype]

Originally posted by ZzZz:

Originally posted by Xype:

Shadowrun is not cyberpunk though, cyberpunk is based on a pen and paper game from the 80's. I understand the confusion for those of you who think this is an original IP by CDPR but it is not, they needed to stick to the games concept, of which when you create your character cyber implants are part of the creation process.

I know that shadowrun is not the same as cyberpunk ofc, that those are two different approaches to a similar theme, no awakening in cyberpunk, no orcs, trolls and so further I know that.

The fact is cdpr messed up with the priest guy, there is no such thing, your very identity is tied to your personal link, every living human in the cyberpunk world has at minimum the personal link.

[['w']]

personal link? got to read into that one.

Edit: okay "smartlink"

[Metadigital]

Originally posted by Kenway:

im pretty sure there might be a mod on nexusmod for that.

You still have to jack in to terminals throughout the story and you need a place to put chips into your neck.

So, there's really no way around the fact that you need cybernetics to exist in this setting.

The real world is like this as well. Lots of stuff we take for granted as normal that's actually something we've been forced into.

[['w']]

Originally posted by Metadigital:

Originally posted by Kenway:

im pretty sure there might be a mod on nexusmod for that.

You still have to jack in to terminals throughout the story and you need a place to put chips into your neck.

So, there's really no way around the fact that you need cybernetics to exist in this setting.

The real world is like this as well. Lots of stuff we take for granted as normal that's actually something we've been forced into.

I've no handy, no car, but ofc a bankaccount, internet, a flat... I know ofc.

[king_of_jamaica]

Originally posted by CzechKronner:

What's stopping you.

Armor is now dictated by the cyberware you have installed apparently. So in order to not get completely blasted by every enemy you'll need to at the very least install armor cyberware.

I personally did a "Clean V" playthrough my first time through the game, and now won't be able to do that for Phantom Liberty.

Instead of forcing everyone into the cyberware fantasy, they should have made a way for both camps to be happy.

[Metadigital]

Originally posted by ZzZz:

I've no handy, no car, but ofc a bankaccount, internet, a flat... I know ofc.

Meanwhile, in the US, I am forced to have a car to function.

We're all born into a particular political, economic, and technological situation that we didn't choose and that we can't change (except collectively I suppose with a lot of work and violence).

Cyberpunk is the genre that explores what happens when technology (and technocrats) have near complete control over our lives. There is some basic level of adherence that's needed for survival, and the rest is up to you.

Would be interesting to try a run that minimizes cyberware as much as possible.