Cyberpunk 2077

Cyberpunk 2077

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Vakula Oct 10, 2023 @ 9:56am
How do you guys feel about Vs companions?
I personally find that I dont really enjoy talking to, or spending time with them. Everyone, except for Johny, dont really care about you. They dont try to help you out with your condition, they dont help you on missions, and mostly just want to use you for their own needs. When you talk, they just talk about themselves and take no interest in you.

I get it, you are a mercenary, working for money and they have jobs for you, but it doesn't make me want to get to know River or Judy or Panam when they just seem to use you.

Contrasting this with Mass Effect companions (I know, different game, different setup), I couldnt wait to talk to them in between missions. I guess I just felt a deeper bond between them and Shep. I never once felt that way about the companions in CP2077.

I got to the part where Judy was leaving Night City. It was this big emotional moment, and honestly I just didnt care. I didnt feel like I was losing a friend, just an occasional employer. And that sucks.
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Vakula Oct 30, 2023 @ 11:08am 
Originally posted by EricHVela:
First off, Rogue and Panam go out of their way to help V by going with. Panam does it a few times. Sure. V helps Panam and helps Johnny with Rogue, but in turn, V receives help (much to the detriment of both every time). However, Panam is a forced companion to do those quests for V. Rogue may be optional, but V is risking a game over by refusing her.

Still, it would be nice to have Judy, River, and Kerry take an active interest in V's situation. Judy just wants revenge for her former lover. River is just a little ball of personal drama. Kerry's just riding Johnny's coattails all over again. Only Panam and Rogue show any ounce of caring about V specifically (and Rogue sharing that interest with Johnny, making her motives a little vague).
Fair point about Panam, but Rogue isnt even a companion. You meet her once, she tells you to go help Panam, you see her again briefly if you do Johny's quest, and have no other interactions with her until the end.
Vakula Oct 30, 2023 @ 11:11am 
Originally posted by Egon:
Would really like to see the formation of a crew similar to the one in the Edgerunners anime. Maybe for the next game. Companion interactions in this game are too thin once your done with their respective quests.
Exactly. This is one of the reasons Edgerunners succeeded IMO. People saying "oh capture the spirit of the table top, oh lack of good friends who help each other, poor writing is a feature" are missing the point. Thats literal cope, and there are examples in the base game of people going out of their way for their friends, most of whom do way less than V does for River/ whiny baby Judy.
Last edited by Vakula; Oct 30, 2023 @ 11:13am
Pharis Gough Oct 30, 2023 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by EricHVela:
First off, Rogue and Panam go out of their way to help V by going with. Panam does it a few times. Sure. V helps Panam and helps Johnny with Rogue, but in turn, V receives help (much to the detriment of both every time). However, Panam is a forced companion to do those quests for V. Rogue may be optional, but V is risking a game over by refusing her.

Still, it would be nice to have Judy, River, and Kerry take an active interest in V's situation. Judy just wants revenge for her former lover. River is just a little ball of personal drama. Kerry's just riding Johnny's coattails all over again. Only Panam and Rogue show any ounce of caring about V specifically (and Rogue sharing that interest with Johnny, making her motives a little vague).

To add to it, Panam does extend her hand to help V with his condition, whether it be helping V to find people to help with his condition or gladly helping to attack Arisaka with you.
Bishop-Six Oct 30, 2023 @ 11:23am 
I would imagine for Judy as the "best BD editor in NC" with lots of nice Tech after you got friends with her that she at least want to investigate your chip and try to figure something out.

Panam on the other hand asks how you are and how she could help.
Vakula Oct 30, 2023 @ 11:27am 
Originally posted by Bishop-Six:
I would imagine for Judy as the "best BD editor in NC" with lots of nice Tech after you got friends with her that she at least want to investigate your chip and try to figure something out.

Panam on the other hand asks how you are and how she could help.
Yeah I really dont understand the ammount of simping with Judy. She is whiny, childish, has simplistic views of the world, doesnt think her actions through, and just seems really selfish and judgemental. Evelyn this and Evelyn that.

Another thing - why the hell do people care about Evelyn? We meet her once, talk for 3 minutes and then she dissapears, we see her in a bad state, and then shes dead. Some players are hell bent on getting justice for Evelyn. Dude, you dont know her, or care about her. She certainly didnt know or care about you. Neither does Judy, going by her actions. ♥♥♥♥ the both of them. I was so unmotivated to help either...
marshmallow justice Oct 30, 2023 @ 11:41am 
Johnny, Vic, and Jackie. The only people that ever cared about V without wanting anything in return.
Zerker Oct 30, 2023 @ 11:49am 
Nomad for life. Pan Am is my jam. Open road and family, live or free or die. You wage slaves have gotten to accustomed to your corpo chains.
Vakula Oct 30, 2023 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by Zerker:
Nomad for life. Pan Am is my jam. Open road and family, live or free or die. You wage slaves have gotten to accustomed to your corpo chains.
Personally didnt jive with Panams personality, but yeah I cant argue that she isnt the best companion for V. She actually cares about him, wants to help out, checks in regularly. Julie on the other hand does nothing to help and just leaves Night City when you have potentially weeks to live without offering to help once.
Izzy Wit Da Uzi Oct 30, 2023 @ 12:00pm 
I liked all of them except for Judy. Panam and River actually seem to care about V(especially Panam). Kerry is cool but I don't think he knows how serious V's condition really is because we don't see what Johnny told him.
Zero McDol Oct 30, 2023 @ 12:08pm 
I like Panam; that's about it.
valium Oct 30, 2023 @ 12:15pm 
You are a solo, I think CDPR did a good enough job giving you "companions" without forcing people on you. You interact with them as much or as little as you want.
Zero McDol Oct 30, 2023 @ 12:20pm 
Originally posted by valium:
You are a solo, I think CDPR did a good enough job giving you "companions" without forcing people on you. You interact with them as much or as little as you want.
Aside from Silverhand and the Relic right? Who are definitely forced heh, but yea.


edit:
And also no. You don't really get companions in this game, unless you use a mod. They are simply story companions, who are entirely dependent on the story to be relevant to V; once their story ends, so does the ability for them to tag along.
Last edited by Zero McDol; Oct 30, 2023 @ 12:23pm
Vakula Oct 30, 2023 @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by valium:
You are a solo, I think CDPR did a good enough job giving you "companions" without forcing people on you. You interact with them as much or as little as you want.
I dont think having interactions outside of "help me with my problems" is forcing companions on you. I dont think having companions reach out and try to help you at times and actually show they care is forcing companions on you. You interact with them to do their missions/ busy work, and thats it. You cant interact with them as much as you want, especially in a way thats meaningful. Yes, you can call them on the phone and replay 3 voice lines. No one in their right mind would call that "interacting."
doves_descent Oct 30, 2023 @ 12:35pm 
I've never felt that way towards Judy, Panam and others like I do Regina, Dino, Wakako (the fixers) because teyh FIxers feel more like an employer to me, Delamain, NCPD scanner, etc...

I truly felt like I was giving them a helping hand of support rather than the other way around.
angelsenvy228 Oct 30, 2023 @ 1:32pm 
Yeah IDK what game you played but Panam and the aldecaldos/or rogue literally ride and die for you at the end when you need help? Although Panam needs anger management classes so badly that she will fly off the handle and cut you off for minor reasons, so it's actually almost out of character for her to help you so much if you choose her ending. But I have known lots of people in real life who act exactly the same way, will die for you until one minor irritation and they completely cut you off xD

I think they went that way with several of the characters, instead of making a likable fictional character they make "realistic" people with attitudes and motivations and hot takes and the end result is no one likes them and they are often off-putting.
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Date Posted: Oct 10, 2023 @ 9:56am
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