Doing all the missions available before meeting up with Jackie is funny

[CadeOfRoots]

Jackie, just got done shooting up maelstromers with V around a day ago. and within...48 hours, V comes back with new weapons, a ton of new cyberware, and around 200,000 eddies, half the after life knows their name already (Street Cred 32), and on top of that as soon as the two of them walk into the afterlife. Some random guy named tiny mike hollars over at V and they have a drink before V goes back to jackie.

Honestly, really wish this had an actual effect on the story cause its funny as hell that i'm still working with Dex after probably having enough eddies to fund and do the entire mission by myself. and on top of that if dex did try to off me chances are I could just tank his lackey's hit and immdietly rip dex's arm off.

I get why it isn't in game but come on. its genuinely funny as hell doing all the stuff before meeting with jackie.

[Soul]

I used to do that.... now I just grind all skills to level 15 for extra 5 perk points.... and scrap and sell everything I pick up so that I can manage a tier 3 cyberdeck before going to meet up with Jackie for the bot... farm area around where you meet Stout... can do a loop where NPC's respawn....

then after the heist I go to pacifica and farm there all skills to level 35 for an extra 5 perk points each...

by then im pretty much over level 20 and the rewards and such are much higher as you level up.... so I hold off on doing NCPD and Gigs till they get more valuable.... think at level 20 the gigs in watson give 1k experience...

my latest game I went a little more crazy and kinda did all that plus managed to get myself a tier 5 cyberdeck.... was level 26 by time I started doing side missions...

doing it that way its like... before when I completed all NCPD and Gigs in watson i'd be around or close to level 20.... doing way I do now im in the mid 30's by time I clear watson of NCPD and gigs...

[CadeOfRoots]

Originally posted by Soul:

I used to do that.... now I just grind all skills to level 15 for extra 5 perk points.... and scrap and sell everything I pick up so that I can manage a tier 3 cyberdeck before going to meet up with Jackie for the bot... farm area around where you meet Stout... can do a loop where NPC's respawn....

then after the heist I go to pacifica and farm there all skills to level 35 for an extra 5 perk points each...

by then im pretty much over level 20 and the rewards and such are much higher as you level up.... so I hold off on doing NCPD and Gigs till they get more valuable.... think at level 20 the gigs in watson give 1k experience...

my latest game I went a little more crazy and kinda did all that plus managed to get myself a tier 5 cyberdeck.... was level 26 by time I started doing side missions...

doing it that way its like... before when I completed all NCPD and Gigs in watson i'd be around or close to level 20.... doing way I do now im in the mid 30's by time I clear watson of NCPD and gigs...

I wonder if they ever even thought of any players doing that tbh. Just grinding the hell outta the game before it actually opens up

[Soul]

Originally posted by BloomingTreeRoots:

Originally posted by Soul:

I used to do that.... now I just grind all skills to level 15 for extra 5 perk points.... and scrap and sell everything I pick up so that I can manage a tier 3 cyberdeck before going to meet up with Jackie for the bot... farm area around where you meet Stout... can do a loop where NPC's respawn....

then after the heist I go to pacifica and farm there all skills to level 35 for an extra 5 perk points each...

by then im pretty much over level 20 and the rewards and such are much higher as you level up.... so I hold off on doing NCPD and Gigs till they get more valuable.... think at level 20 the gigs in watson give 1k experience...

my latest game I went a little more crazy and kinda did all that plus managed to get myself a tier 5 cyberdeck.... was level 26 by time I started doing side missions...

doing it that way its like... before when I completed all NCPD and Gigs in watson i'd be around or close to level 20.... doing way I do now im in the mid 30's by time I clear watson of NCPD and gigs...

I wonder if they ever even thought of any players doing that tbh. Just grinding the hell outta the game before it actually opens up

probably.... I mean not much different than clearing all missions before the prologue.... except in the case of skills its a good way to see how all the different styles are like.... I kinda like it.... I mean you get more of a feel of what type of gameplay suits you moreso... plus while im leveling skills im picking up loot to break down and am able to focus on my cyberdeck since thats what I aim for... otherwise i'd never touch melee and such without the perks tied to em...

story wise I think it can make sense.... I mean not the whole looping part where enemies respawn really... but just grinding skills instead of NCPD and gigs.... you already got a job to do with Dex lined up and working with another fixer while you working with another one that is supposed to be bigger deal.... doing a little cardio and "training" after watching the BD and knowing how big the target is and dealing with crazy Maelstrom gang... seems to make more sense than going out of your way around doing other jobs....

[Okihara Jones]

This is exactly how I played it the first time I ever played through (version 1.61)... and it's the only way I play now, on every run and every experimental build. I do every side mission I can before Jackie and I rescue the girl from the shivs. By the time we get to the Dex and T-bug heist, I am super-powered AF against all foes at that level (usually approximately level 28 - 30). Big-time fun cutting through them baddies like a hot berry switch through pork butter.

[Soul]

Originally posted by Okihara Jones:

This is exactly how I played it the first time I ever played through (version 1.61)... and it's the only way I play now, on every run and every experimental build. I do every side mission I can before Jackie and I rescue the girl from the shivs. By the time we get to the Dex and T-bug heist, I am super-powered AF against all foes at that level (usually approximately level 28 - 30). Big-time fun cutting through them baddies like a hot berry switch through pork butter.

yeah... with the new level scaling though i think its worth saving em for when your higher level to be honest.... I mean I tried it both ways when 2.0 first dropped... doing all side missions like I did normally before meeting malestrom and calling Stout.... all NCPD and 23 gigs from Regina certainly does give decent XP.... but its xp based off of low level and gear and money is low level.... as well as access points for quickhacks..... you'd be stocking up on low level stuff... tier 1's and tier 2's....

but with level scaling and taking the missions later on they just give WAY more.... im about level 28 now doing NCPD first before gigs and they give so much more in terms of rarity drops, access points....

plus the early levels are the easiest to level... grinding skills alone to level 15 can net you close to 10.... if you just did up to the client first at least.... allowing you to be level 6 by time that finishes... get practically 4 levels while grinding skills and get 5 extra perk points.... gigs at that low level I think I was seeing it pop off at like 299 or 399 xp for completion.... compared to after hitting at least level 20 those same gigs were worth 1000 xp per gig... which means your getting almost triple the xp value saving em up for later on... with Regina having 23 gigs 1000xp each.... thats a lot of xp.... 23,000 actually.... compared to if your doing em for lets say 299 each... which would be 6,877 xp before level 20.... that means you'd be missing out on 16,123 experience doing them early...

[Kingsleaze]

Originally posted by BloomingTreeRoots:

Originally posted by Soul:

I used to do that.... now I just grind all skills to level 15 for extra 5 perk points.... and scrap and sell everything I pick up so that I can manage a tier 3 cyberdeck before going to meet up with Jackie for the bot... farm area around where you meet Stout... can do a loop where NPC's respawn....

then after the heist I go to pacifica and farm there all skills to level 35 for an extra 5 perk points each...

by then im pretty much over level 20 and the rewards and such are much higher as you level up.... so I hold off on doing NCPD and Gigs till they get more valuable.... think at level 20 the gigs in watson give 1k experience...

my latest game I went a little more crazy and kinda did all that plus managed to get myself a tier 5 cyberdeck.... was level 26 by time I started doing side missions...

doing it that way its like... before when I completed all NCPD and Gigs in watson i'd be around or close to level 20.... doing way I do now im in the mid 30's by time I clear watson of NCPD and gigs...

I wonder if they ever even thought of any players doing that tbh. Just grinding the hell outta the game before it actually opens up

Yeah, a lot of people do it.

[Okihara Jones]

Originally posted by Soul:

Originally posted by Okihara Jones:

This is exactly how I played it the first time I ever played through (version 1.61)... and it's the only way I play now, on every run and every experimental build. I do every side mission I can before Jackie and I rescue the girl from the shivs. By the time we get to the Dex and T-bug heist, I am super-powered AF against all foes at that level (usually approximately level 28 - 30). Big-time fun cutting through them baddies like a hot berry switch through pork butter.

yeah... with the new level scaling though i think its worth saving em for when your higher level to be honest.... I mean I tried it both ways when 2.0 first dropped... doing all side missions like I did normally before meeting malestrom and calling Stout.... all NCPD and 23 gigs from Regina certainly does give decent XP.... but its xp based off of low level and gear and money is low level.... as well as access points for quickhacks..... you'd be stocking up on low level stuff... tier 1's and tier 2's....

but with level scaling and taking the missions later on they just give WAY more.... im about level 28 now doing NCPD first before gigs and they give so much more in terms of rarity drops, access points....

plus the early levels are the easiest to level... grinding skills alone to level 15 can net you close to 10.... if you just did up to the client first at least.... allowing you to be level 6 by time that finishes... get practically 4 levels while grinding skills and get 5 extra perk points.... gigs at that low level I think I was seeing it pop off at like 299 or 399 xp for completion.... compared to after hitting at least level 20 those same gigs were worth 1000 xp per gig... which means your getting almost triple the xp value saving em up for later on... with Regina having 23 gigs 1000xp each.... thats a lot of xp.... 23,000 actually.... compared to if your doing em for lets say 299 each... which would be 6,877 xp before level 20.... that means you'd be missing out on 16,123 experience doing them early...

Currently at level 59 Netrunner, I am pleased to report the worries about level-scaling are highly exaggerated.

(or at the very leastwise, somewhat ill-informed)