When should I start Phantom Liberty?

[Koro]

I made a new save and started from the beginning. When is a good time in the story to start Phantom Liberty? Have you guys picked when to start based on your level? Where you are in the story? I'm struggling to work out when I should actually 'start' this

[Punchmeat]

PL can be tougher than the base game. You can technically start it anytime after Konpeki I believe and if you do the jump start youll be lvl 15 and have automatically started the first quest. I like to do it like around lvl 25 as its fairly lengthy and a good break from the main story

[Sad Peepo, very sad]

the DLC should always scale to your level, so you can start it as early or as late as you want. It should always 'play the same'

[markymint]

It becomes available after Transmission quest in Pacifica (the one where you meet Alt) and you are likely at an OK level for it by that point, but it will be worth gathering up your best weapons and some cyberware for your journey into Dogtown. There are some boss encounters in PL that may prove a challenge on higher difficulty and I have wandered into the wrong building or two and been completely annihalated myself, but that was also lack of preparation (and a non-cyberware build at the time, thinking I could pistol whip everyone...). But PL does not ask a "high level" of you, really. Ultimately, PL is accessible to probably any level come its due point (Transmission quest). They're not throwing you into the deep end, unless say, you're on highest difficulty. Enjoy!

[Zebedee]

Having done it a couple of times, I'm liking starting it as soon as possible and then treating it like all the other major side arcs once you're able to move between Night City proper and Dog Town. So doing little bits on the main story before picking up on another story strand, and side missions and car theft as I move between. There's little bits of referencing going on which I'm enjoying catching - little stuff but it pleases me)

One thing which is worth pointing out but Dog Town really does double down on the idea of having a narrower build with its skill checks so if you are building more broadly initially then you may get more options by leaving it til you've maxed out two or even three attributes or whatever.

[Dark]

Originally posted by Zebedee:

Having done it a couple of times, I'm liking starting it as soon as possible and then treating it like all the other major side arcs once you're able to move between Night City proper and Dog Town. So doing little bits on the main story before picking up on another story strand, and side missions and car theft as I move between. There's little bits of referencing going on which I'm enjoying catching - little stuff but it pleases me)

One thing which is worth pointing out but Dog Town really does double down on the idea of having a narrower build with its skill checks so if you are building more broadly initially then you may get more options by leaving it til you've maxed out two or even three attributes or whatever.

This is what I did and feels the best way to do it. By the time you can unlock it it fits into the rest of the story. If you haven't finished the original story though there are a few things and characters you might not pick up on but its not a big issue. The game enemies now level to you so there isn't anything to tough to overcome.

[Irrer on Tour]

!minor Spoilers ahead!
you mean the quest were you work for the voodoo boys get betrayed by them and met alt at the blackwall?

[captclaw]

Originally posted by Irrer on Tour:

!minor Spoilers ahead!
you mean the quest were you work for the voodoo boys get betrayed by them and met alt at the blackwall?

Yes, the quest line is M'ap Tann Pelen -> I Walk The Line -> Never Fade Away -> Transmission.

After all those you will get a call..

[darkosis]

Okay, you should only start PL after completing Panaam's quest, Sandra Korsett's side gig, all cyberpsycho gigs, Lizzie Wizzy quest, The Sinnerman quest, Nix's quest and if you want Chippin in quest(Rogue's quest) and Riverward's quest.


Why am I mentioning these quests? Because there couple of gigs in Dogtown that require these quests to be done to utilize those characters. Another reason, depending on your choice for the main mission you will be asked to find a netrunner for that you need some quests to be completed to make calls to them.

So all in all, it's better if you complete base game until you reach the final mission which is "meet Hanako at Embers" and do couple of side gigs/quests of side chatacters and then proceed to dogtown. It's a better experience imo.

[Suomipoika11]

Techincally, you can start the campaign ASAP, to unlock forst Relic tree perks. With new scaling, it should be all around fair .
With that in mind, completing DLC early gives some bonus dialogue in main story, and doing some Base game stuff first gives bonus dialogue during DLC missions.
But just don't "Balls to the Wall" sidequest without completing Panam or Wards questline if you want a truly happy ending....

[darkosis]

Originally posted by Suomipoika11:

Techincally, you can start the campaign ASAP, to unlock forst Relic tree perks. With new scaling, it should be all around fair .
With that in mind, completing DLC early gives some bonus dialogue in main story, and doing some Base game stuff first gives bonus dialogue during DLC missions.
But just don't "Balls to the Wall" sidequest without completing Panam or Wards questline if you want a truly happy ending....

What bonus dialogues are you talking about if I finish DLC first?

[Suomipoika11]

Originally posted by Madao:

Originally posted by Suomipoika11:

Techincally, you can start the campaign ASAP, to unlock forst Relic tree perks. With new scaling, it should be all around fair .
With that in mind, completing DLC early gives some bonus dialogue in main story, and doing some Base game stuff first gives bonus dialogue during DLC missions.
But just don't "Balls to the Wall" sidequest without completing Panam or Wards questline if you want a truly happy ending....

What bonus dialogues are you talking about if I finish DLC first?

Well , depending of your ending, you get bonus ones with Rogue and with Hellman. Before the main quest tied to them both.

[MadMinstrel]

Originally posted by TorqueoZ?:

I made a new save and started from the beginning. When is a good time in the story to start Phantom Liberty? Have you guys picked when to start based on your level? Where you are in the story? I'm struggling to work out when I should actually 'start' this

Whenever you like. The earliest you can start it is after the voodoo boys storyline. But no matter where you start it, it will be fine.

[darkosis]

Originally posted by Suomipoika11:

Originally posted by Madao:

What bonus dialogues are you talking about if I finish DLC first?

Well , depending of your ending, you get bonus ones with Rogue and with Hellman. Before the main quest tied to them both.

I'll try it my next playthrough.. would be interesting to see the new dialgoues..

[Suomipoika11]

Originally posted by Madao:

Originally posted by Suomipoika11:

Well , depending of your ending, you get bonus ones with Rogue and with Hellman. Before the main quest tied to them both.

I'll try it my next playthrough.. would be interesting to see the new dialgoues..

Plus in Nomad ending, "she" has few words to say, especially you got the new cyberdeck or the SMG....

[ImHelping]

If you want a gameplay reason for greed rather than "DLC so hard honest!... But if you beat it at level 20 actually it was easy".

The later you get in, the higher grade the DLC specific iconic weapons drop at, saving you piles of crafting material grinding if you are playing normally instead of circling the map like a buzzard at high levels procrastinating.

Unless you only want to upgrade one or two of them because you only use weapons the internet told you are OP, in which case 200 or so orange coupons for ++ isn't a repeat expense making you go "What the ♥♥♥♥ I had 5k of these a second ago"