OS for SMG?

[Noodles]

So I'm confused. Berserk is melee only now. Sandy is mostly melee - but can work with some single shot weapons since reloading is speeded up. What the heck are you supposed to use if you like SMGs, ARs, etc? I'm so not a netrunner. Aside from the occasional ping, I have no use for a deck.

Is there any OS that's evern worth installing for a run-and-gun kind of SMG build? Slipping, sliding, dodging all over with the Fenrir is fun but... the OS selection confuses the heck out of me.

[Forblaze]

Slowed time is still useful to give you more time to aim.

Otherwise there's an OS that just gives cyberware capacity.

[vile]

Sandy works great with SMGs. I don't even have any perks for them and I can still wipe out whole crews. Admittedly I've got the best one in the game, but still.

[Noodles]

Yea I tried a sandy and it was awful. Felt like replacing my epic gun with an astmatic child trying to fire peas from a blow pipe. Not so much ratatat as flup...flup...flup... I lost patience in seconds. ;)

Compressor it is then I guess. Just seems to darn boring.

[adobo]

You can still use debuff quickhacks like cripple movement and cyber malfunction. Use sonic shock and a silencer to quietly gun down isolated enemies.

[TVMAN]

I've never felt the need to use anything other than a sandy + the Widow Maker or Guts. I can wipe an entire crew before they can even draw weapons.

[Mosey]

Go back to the Cyberdoc every few levels to see what's now available. Sounds like you saw the first few trash options and tossed half the games mechanics out the window with them.

EDIT:

Forgot to even ask, what kind of SMG and AR are you talking about? A smart gun versus a tech weapon, as an example, can matter.

[Noodles]

Power weapons. If I was using smart weapons, points in intelligence would make sense, to both buff the smart guns and to make a deck useful. If I was using tech weapons - I'd keep the deck to ping and shoot through walls. I been using agility-tech for now to get loads of armor, mobility and pew pew.

And well no, I played this game quite a lot. Finished it with melee, as a netrunner, as a heavy weapons solo, as a stealth pistoleer... I kind of know a bit of what's available. It's just agility based gun-builds that never seem to make any sense to me. Can't find an OS that feels worthwhile - even less so after 2.0 when the Berserker has become melee only.

- Berserker is useless for guns.
- Deck is very, very "meh" unless you go into netrunning properly. Also, using a deck disrupts the fast paced play style by completely freezing the game everytime you scan and upload a hack.
- Sandy is really geared to melee and weird guns like the comrades hammer - not small caliber bullet hoses. Again, it disrupts the fast play in a way that it doesn't do for melee weapons, and really doesn't provide much besides more time to aim.

Maybe I'm the weird one. Just feels to me that there's not really a great OS for plain gun-toting maniacs.

[Noodles]

Ok, problem solved! TL/DR: Tetratronic Rippler.

The new 2.0 perks is a barrel of laughs. Investing in agility and tech gives me tons of mobility and heaps of armor. There's grenades and bullets flying all over the place. I'm starting to realise I don't need to rely on an OS at all any more. It's just a bonus.

I always used to see the OS as THE core piece of cyberware - and for a melee build or a netrunner it very much is, but... in 2.0 it's not the case at all for run-and-gun builds. I decided to postpone my OS selection and found I was doing more than fine ignoring it.

So what to do then? Well, I didn't actually pick up Phantom Liberty yet, so I can't find a cyber compressor; it would have been a neat choice. I decided to give a deck another try, and was actually pleasantly surprised. I expected it to be good for nothing but pings, but with 2.0, scaling enemies, and some cheapo quickhacks, it's got enough RAM to chuck some hacks around.

Final verdict: Tetratronic Rippler. It's got a neat bonus in 2.0; load a non-combat hack on an enemy and you get a damage bonus with weapons! Tough enemy? Cripple his movement, shut down his optics, and blast away. This works.