cyberpunk sequel?

[The Big Red 1]

i have been hearing "rumors" about cyberpunk getting a sequel (project Orion) and it makes me wonder where is it going to take place (not night city that's for sure)? will it be released before witcher 4? i would prefer they release cyberpunk's sequel BEFORE they release witcher 4 (to me the witcher franchise is pretty much "said and done". no need to risk getting stale). they owe us that much since we are only getting one expansion for the current game instead of the two or more like we were promised originally (read that in several newspaper articles somewhere before cp2077's release).

[VhagarTheLastOne]

Origineel geplaatst door Zebedee:

We'll probably get some clues about the setting when Pondsmith updates the background to 2077 with CDPR. Wouldn't expect that to come any time soon though, and he's already said it'll be after he's done the timeline himself to 2060 first. We're years away from a release of anything so meh. If Cyberpunk 2 is out this side of 2030 then they'll have done well as development will be in its very, very early stages and announced primarily to recruit for CDPR's expansion into trying to make two AAA games at the same time.

CDPR is growing fast, prior Cyberpunk their staff was at 400, now nearing 1k. With 1k staff you can make two game at the same time. Witcher 3 was made by 300 staff or so, and it was great.

[Bahamut_A6M5]

Origineel geplaatst door Cyberpunker:

Origineel geplaatst door Bahamut_A6M5:

And, for the record, Dubai doesn't even exist in the CPverse. The Middle East was turned into a radioactive sand desert in 1997 after a barrage of nukes in the area.

That sucks, I think Dubai is exotic. They better not go with EU, USA or Asia. Come on.

How about El Salvador, they are building BitCoin City there. Maybe its ready when Cyberpunk 2 is ready?

Don't go expecting thinks like that. The CPverse timeline diverges from ours, leading to completely different historical events. Central and South America are basically economically depressed areas after the DEA ruined their alternate income source, drugs, with bioagents specifically designed to destroy those crops. War, violence, crimes, factions opposing each other, corrupt governments... and a lot of hate towards USA. Oh, don't forget ecoterrorism in the Amazonas rain forest (or whatever it's left of it).

Again, Night City is a place with nearly 4 million souls. There's ample room for more stories to develop there, so there's no real reason to discard it and go looking for other places. And, workwise, CDPR has already invested a lot of time and effort into developing NC assets; common sense would dictate to maximize the most of it.

[七宗]

i wouldn't be surprised if they returned to NC with a different story sometime later after the events of 2077 or even a prequel.

they already have a solid city foundation that can be fleshed out in a lot of different ways.

[Zebedee]

Origineel geplaatst door Cyberpunker:

CDPR is growing fast, prior Cyberpunk their staff was at 400, now nearing 1k. With 1k staff you can make two game at the same time. Witcher 3 was made by 300 staff or so, and it was great.

That's right. And the core team moving to Boston to make Cyberpunk haven't done so yet. If you're familiar with TW3's development (and TW and TW2...) then you'll understand why 'but they did it with 300 staff...' just isn't viable any more for them with Cyberpunk's release. Bioware discovered the same*. CDPR seem to be aiming more at emulating Rockstar's size and ability to cope with the demands of making AAA games, one of the reasons for shifting to UE was to be able to recruit and outsource more easily.

* random source from top of google: https://www.eurogamer.net/ex-bioware-producer-gives-insight-into-bioware-magic

[Facewound]

Origineel geplaatst door Cyberpunker:

Origineel geplaatst door Bahamut_A6M5:

And, for the record, Dubai doesn't even exist in the CPverse. The Middle East was turned into a radioactive sand desert in 1997 after a barrage of nukes in the area.

That sucks, I think Dubai is exotic. They better not go with EU, USA or Asia. Come on.

How about El Salvador, they are building BitCoin City there. Maybe its ready when Cyberpunk 2 is ready?

Dubai is the lamest place on planet Earth lol, literally IRL Crystal Palace

[tickl3m3vil]

If the next cyberpunk is in NC, I would much rather they focus on overhauling the rpg, ai and gameplay mechanics then create whole new locations. These action/rpg games have been exhausted with the same format for many years now. There needs to be more innovation especially with the next games being developped with UE5.

[P1nkLem0n4d3]

The Witcher 4 is probably going to come out first. It's going to be a very long time before the next Cyberpunk game.

As for where it would take place, I mean, I hope for a change of scenery, or at least, not just a carbon copy paste of the same city, but honestly if they just remixed the same city or something, or maybe have the city designed differently based on the time period, or just base the game in a different part of the city that we haven't seen, or another city within the same universe, I feel like that is perfectly fine.

But yeah, there really needs to be just, more added content, and a better release for the next title.

[Tokenn]

The Cyberpunk sequel is called Orion Project and it's only in its very earliest stages of planning. I hope we see it within 5 years...I doubt we'll get any news about it for at least a couple of years from now, maybe longer. Heh...I wouldn't be surprised if we saw an actual theatrical movie set in the CP77 universe first [no, there are no plans, that's not a rumour...just something I think is a possibility, given the success of Edgerunners].

[Silvarsson]

Origineel geplaatst door tickl3m3vil:

If the next cyberpunk is in NC, I would much rather they focus on overhauling the rpg, ai and gameplay mechanics then create whole new locations. These action/rpg games have been exhausted with the same format for many years now. There needs to be more innovation especially with the next games being developped with UE5.

They'd better not overhaul again a keanu reeve's like main character, and let the player be the main character of their stories.

[skOsH♥]

Origineel geplaatst door The Big Red 1:

i have been hearing "rumors" about cyberpunk getting a sequel (project Orion) and it makes me wonder where is it going to take place (not night city that's for sure)? will it be released before witcher 4? i would prefer they release cyberpunk's sequel BEFORE they release witcher 4 (to me the witcher franchise is pretty much "said and done". no need to risk getting stale). they owe us that much since we are only getting one expansion for the current game instead of the two or more like we were promised originally (read that in several newspaper articles somewhere before cp2077's release).

They're working on both, giving the Witcher 4 slightly more focus, since it will likely be a launch title for the next gen of consoles as well as PC. Cyberpunk sequel will likely come after a couple years, around holiday season, if I had to guess.

The best part, is both of them being built in Unreal Engine 5.1+. If they've got a good team, making a large immersive world doesn't take long. It's populating it and generating the actual game content that will take the majority of the time.

If I had to guess, I would say that they're nearly, if not, completely done with the Witcher 4 map/world. At least overworld terrain. Easy to generate in UE5. Now comes the actual game content. So I would guess 2025 for Witcher 4, and 2027 for Cyberpunk sequel (or a prequel who knows?)

Phantom Liberty will let us know what the next Cyberpunk game will be.

[Zebedee]

Would be amazed if they planned to release 3 Witcher games between 2025 and 2031 with Cyberpunk development still taking up the bulk of dev time with Phantom Liberty in production.

My guess would be 2027 or 2028, which would mean another Witcher game in 2030/31, and the third installment three years after that. Would mean Cyberpunk 2 sometime around 2029/30 (there's a callback to the original PnP...).

[VhagarTheLastOne]

Origineel geplaatst door Zebedee:

Would be amazed if they planned to release 3 Witcher games between 2025 and 2031 with Cyberpunk development still taking up the bulk of dev time with Phantom Liberty in production.

My guess would be 2027 or 2028, which would mean another Witcher game in 2030/31, and the third installment three years after that. Would mean Cyberpunk 2 sometime around 2029/30 (there's a callback to the original PnP...).

If they manage to grow to 1k, Cyberpunk and Wticher migth both happen in 5-7 year. Definitely not 10+ year. 1k is solid number, it gets the ♥♥♥♥ done.

Sucks to see there 350 staff workin on Expansion, how many spin-off they could've made? 2-3? Theres so much cool stuff in Cyberpunk, what we visit only once or twice, spin-off sounds so much better.

[Zebedee]

Origineel geplaatst door Cyberpunker:

If they manage to grow to 1k, Cyberpunk and Wticher migth both happen in 5-7 year. Definitely not 10+ year. 1k is solid number, it gets the ♥♥♥♥ done.

My guess for first Twitcher being 2027/8 would be ~6 years in development. Same for Cyberpunk in 29/30. New Twitcher series was already at 150 devs late last year, Cyberpunk not so much and also needing the new studio to be up running to move to the point of having hundreds working on it. Obviously not even pretending to account for delays etc. if anyone from the future is tempted to necro.

edit: once the decision to move to UE and do two titles at once, obvious implications were obvious, no? Hopefully a nice send off for this game and leaving us wanting the second game.

[Lucus]

Origineel geplaatst door Bahamut_A6M5:

Crystal Palace is a no go. It's an orbital stronghold for the ESA, basically a haven for the richest people. Not only the ESA controls exhaustively the access, gear and ciberware on the guests, space habitats don't allow for all the guns you see in NC. Crystal Palace would basically be a hand-to-hand combat scenario, with tasers, flechettes and bolts as the best options for ranged combat; if CDPR could come with a convincing story on how the oppresive control of the ESA in the habitat has been lessened, so it could come to be a place for violent gigs.

well personally the way the prologue could be handed in a sequel is using some of the endings in cyberpunk as lifepaths, so maybe we could see some early missions at other locations based on the chosen life path.

[Bahamut_A6M5]

Origineel geplaatst door Lucus:

Origineel geplaatst door Bahamut_A6M5:

Crystal Palace is a no go. It's an orbital stronghold for the ESA, basically a haven for the richest people. Not only the ESA controls exhaustively the access, gear and ciberware on the guests, space habitats don't allow for all the guns you see in NC. Crystal Palace would basically be a hand-to-hand combat scenario, with tasers, flechettes and bolts as the best options for ranged combat; if CDPR could come with a convincing story on how the oppresive control of the ESA in the habitat has been lessened, so it could come to be a place for violent gigs.

well personally the way the prologue could be handed in a sequel is using some of the endings in cyberpunk as lifepaths, so maybe we could see some early missions at other locations based on the chosen life path.

Lifepaths are character's past life, a way to show their upbringing, how their family was, what education they got, etc. They probably are the worst way to attempt anything like that. And still, it would have to deal with the fact the EU is extremely wary of the (N)USA in the CPverse. In the past, the Four (FBI, DEA, CIA, NSA) tried to sabotage the agreements between Gorbachov's Soviet Union and the European Union (which would eventually lead to the EU-New USSR alliance); later, in 1994, the Four attempted to weaken the eurodollar before the dollar by manipulating the global stock exchange, leading ultimately to the Collapse. In later years, the USAF will attack soviet orbital interests and even an attempt on overtaking the Crystal Palace, leading to wars and even extra-orbital bombardments against the USA using the mass drivers on the Moon.

CPverse history isn't exactly helping on ESA authorities warmly welcoming a (N)USA citizen into the Crystal Palace and not carefully watching every step she makes in the habitat.