Cyberpunk 2077

Cyberpunk 2077

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envirovore Apr 10, 2023 @ 7:11am
Digital Foundry's RT Overdrive preview
https://youtu.be/I-ORt8313Og

I look forward to Alex's in depth analysis later.
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Shrek Apr 8, 2023 @ 9:18pm 
When is the Path tracing coming out?
Just a simple question
Crimsomrider Apr 8, 2023 @ 10:40pm 
On the 11th, two days from now.
kostfit83kg Apr 9, 2023 @ 10:13am 
Originally posted by Crimsomrider:
On the 11th, two days from now.
It actually is not "coming out," as it is only a technology preview. Consider this as a beta test for the settings of sort. Do not expect it to be in its ultimately playable form. Just wait for Tuesday, when everyone is crying on the forums!
Shrek Apr 9, 2023 @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by kostfit83kg:
Originally posted by Crimsomrider:
On the 11th, two days from now.
It actually is not "coming out," as it is only a technology preview. Consider this as a beta test for the settings of sort. Do not expect it to be in its ultimately playable form. Just wait for Tuesday, when everyone is crying on the forums!
Haha sounds good, I heard on the video its a preview but I am still very interested in trying it out.
popsicle Apr 9, 2023 @ 10:26am 
Why get excited? No card in the market can handle this today.
Crimsomrider Apr 9, 2023 @ 10:29am 
Personally I don't have any expectations since I won't be using it any time soon, but the OP asked when is the update so I answered ^^

Naturally it may be in its early form, however I'm sure it'll get better as time goes by since it's a graphical feature to future-proof the title that most likely might also be featured in the sequel from the get-go if it gets improved a lot by then.
envirovore Apr 9, 2023 @ 10:47am 
Originally posted by Crimsomrider:
Personally I don't have any expectations since I won't be using it any time soon, but the OP asked when is the update so I answered ^^

Naturally it may be in its early form, however I'm sure it'll get better as time goes by since it's a graphical feature to future-proof the title that most likely might also be featured in the sequel from the get-go if it gets improved a lot by then.

It'll be updated/improved/optimized a bit over time according to the interviews with CDPR and NV in the PCWorld video with Gordon, but yes indeed it is very much just a tech demo.

Edit: reply wasn't aimed just at you but worked well for a set up about it being a work in progress thing, just an in general comment really.
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Kai Apr 9, 2023 @ 10:49am 
Originally posted by popsicle:
Why get excited? No card in the market can handle this today.
And you'll need to pay for Enterprise server GPUs to even run it, this is what Nvidia wants, to pull consumers into the Enterprise market, not being dragged down to the budget market with how APUs and integrated graphics are scaling up this generation.
Shrek Apr 9, 2023 @ 10:58am 
Have faith guys. Not only is path tracing coming out, but the AI frame generation and DLSS 3.0.
Even if we can't run path tracing our performances will get a buff with our current graphics.
envirovore Apr 9, 2023 @ 11:12am 
Originally posted by Shrek:
Have faith guys. Not only is path tracing coming out, but the AI frame generation and DLSS 3.0.
Even if we can't run path tracing our performances will get a buff with our current graphics.

DLSS Frame Generation has been in game since Feb 1 this year.
Årk Grip Apr 9, 2023 @ 3:01pm 
Originally posted by Kai:
Originally posted by popsicle:
Why get excited? No card in the market can handle this today.
And you'll need to pay for Enterprise server GPUs to even run it, this is what Nvidia wants, to pull consumers into the Enterprise market, not being dragged down to the budget market with how APUs and integrated graphics are scaling up this generation.
So wrong that it's not even funny...
Årk Grip Apr 9, 2023 @ 3:02pm 
Originally posted by popsicle:
Why get excited? No card in the market can handle this today.
Yes the 4090 clearly can....
envirovore Apr 9, 2023 @ 7:41pm 
Originally posted by Chrisso:
Originally posted by Årk Grip:
Yes the 4090 clearly can....
With 17 FPS, how exciting!

Seriosly, if CDPR would just spend a little of that time they spend on shilling for nVidia Wahling Ltd. on actual game content we could have a 2nd DLC already. NOBODY needs Path tracing in Cyberpunk Right now, add it in a few years on an Enhanced version like the The Witcher 3's when more people can actually make any use of it and everyone would be happy. Instead they're just wasting time on being nVidia's marketing department right now.

nVidia approached CDPR about adding it as 2077 would be a good use case to demo the tech in, given the mass amounts of light sources and reflective surfaces, and have been working directly with a few devs at CDPR to implement it.
The whole CDPR team isnt involved in this, just a few people, and it's certainly not enough to be draining resources from other projects.

This is the same old tired argument that was made when T&L became a standard nearly 20 years ago and that was super demanding on the very few GPUs at the time that could run it. You like parallax mapping on textures though, right? Having them look like they have proper depth? Having them more than one flat colored polygon? You can thank T&L for that, even though everyone complained about it at the time because it was of limited hardware support and computationally heavy.
Advancements in rendering have to start somewhere, and someone has to show case it.
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Chrisso Apr 9, 2023 @ 7:51pm 
Originally posted by envirovore:
nVidia approached CDPR about adding it as 2077 would be a good use case to demo the tech in, given the mass amounts of light sources and reflective surfaces, and have been working directly with the few devs at CDPR to implement it.
The whole CDPR team isnt involved in this, just a few people, and it's certainly not enough to be draining resources from other projects.


Yeah, I was obviously exaggerating, but have to say as a (currently) AMD user, even without any fanboyism, I got quite p*ssed at CDPR over time, since they're doing all this NV promo stuff while completely seeming to forget other platforms even exist. It took an eternity to even get FSR2 implemented as a goodwill gesture, while at the same time announcing DLSS3 before anyone knew it existed for the few precious 4090 uers... no wonder they totally f*ed up the console versions since those are also based on that exotic chip they apparently never heard of. Witcher 3 now is completely the same, just another NV marketing thing that is completely unplayable on AMD cards, and no, that's not because AMD sucks, other companies can do it too.
I'm in no way against tech demos, advancements, and I'm also excited about the future of ray/pathtracing, even as an AMD user, because this stuff will be normal on any GPU in a few generations.

At this time however, I'm completely losing my sh*t when they announce yet another "we did this cool NV thing on your $1500 and up GPUs!", it's so annoying when at the same time they appear to can't even give basic tech support to the rest of us.
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envirovore Apr 9, 2023 @ 8:08pm 
Originally posted by Chrisso:
Originally posted by envirovore:
nVidia approached CDPR about adding it as 2077 would be a good use case to demo the tech in, given the mass amounts of light sources and reflective surfaces, and have been working directly with the few devs at CDPR to implement it.
The whole CDPR team isnt involved in this, just a few people, and it's certainly not enough to be draining resources from other projects.


Yeah, I was obviously exaggerating, but have to say as a (currently) AMD user, even without any fanboyism, I got quite p*ssed at CDPR over time, since they're doing all this NV promo stuff while completely seeming to forget other platforms even exist. It took an eternity to even get FSR2 implemented as a goodwill gesture, while at the same time announcing DLSS3 before anyone knew it existed for the few precious 4090 uers... no wonder they totally f*ed up the console versions since those are also based on that exotic chip they apparently never heard of. Witcher 3 now is completely the same, just another NV marketing thing that is completely unplayable on AMD cards, and no, that's not because AMD sucks, other companies can do it too. At this time, I'm completely losing my sh*t when they announce yet another "we did this cool NV thing!", it's so annoying...

Oh, I can totally understand that.
I know it doesn't do anything to alleviate the frustration of it, but at least the titles NV do sponsor also include FSR of some variety for AMD users.
AMD did drop the ball a bit on not focusing more on including better dedicated hardware support for RT acceleration...which in the 6000 series was to save cost, say that they support it, and offer cards a lower MSRP. Why they didn't work on improving that with the 7000 series... especially when charging premium prices for them...I'd actually consider one of their GPUs for my next upgrade if they did, NV are sketchy as hell with their practices.

This all said, I'm not anti AMD, have used nothing but their CPUs since K6 when I finally bought my own first pc.

Going back to that T&L example, at the time I had bought a GF MX420 maybe 3 months before T&L rolled out...which wasn't supported on the mx420. I spent about 3 weeks emailing back and forth with Monolith tech support to have them help figure out some sort of hack to get Tron 2.0 to work on that GPU (as it was one of the first titles to use T&L).
Getting HL2 to run on it was another nightmare of continual troubleshooting and .ini editing.

Not quite the same situation, but I feel your struggle here.

Edit: I too can't wait for our path traced future of games. It's exciting tech for sure.
And while I'm going to give this update a try, I doubt there will be any way I'll manage to find any sort of playable setting with my 3080.
It'll be a "switch it on for photo mode" thing, if even that, at best I'm sure.
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