Anyone concerned about the new system requirements...?

[vonbleak]

Hi guys,

So im pumped for the new update and expansion and i cant wait for all the new features and such, but im a little concerned over the new system requirements...

Currently i have a 9900k with 32 gig ddr4 ram and a 10 gig 3080 - Atm i can run on Ultra settings with RT and get around an average of 80fps @1080p which is great (using DLSS 2.0 on quality), but im guessing im going to loose alot of fps once the patch/expansion hits...

Obviously i can just lower the settings and turn off RT - But one of the things i love about CP2077 is just how amazing it looks with everything turned up...

Im contemplating waiting until i build my new PC (13900k 32gig ddr5 with a 4080ti (if its out of course)) before i jump back in, but that wont be for at least another 6 months or so lol...

Is anyone else worried about how their PC will perform and/or are planning on upgrading their PC's before jumping in...?

[JACKSin]

Probably not. They're not testing the older hardware or attempting to get the game to run off an HDD. You probably won't see any drop with that hardware. Not much of one.

[Grobut]

Very.

I'm on an I7-6700K (4ghz), which is just one step up from the I7-6700 (3.4ghz) that is the new minimum, sooo yeah... i'm a bit worried.

[Sovereign]

I find the new CPU requirements kinda eyebrow raising. The “recommended” went from a i7-4790 to a i7-12700?

I have a i7-8700k, a very solid processor when it was new, and really don’t want to go through the massive hassle of replacing it just to play at 1440p with high settings.

[Zebedee]

I'm just waiting on previews tbh, some of the specs given are curious to say the least. Upgrading to SSD, even a cheap one, would make sense for anyone who hasn't yet. I know I'll be upgrading to 32gb ram anyway, because I've been lazy enough about it. Rest of my system, meh. I played the base game @1440p with a 1080, made the play through with a 3080ti a year later a nice change up. Perfectly content to to come back to the game with a better system as I get it.

[Blitz4]

test on GeForce Now before committing. You get something like a 5600x, 4080 and 32GB ram.

[Blitz4]

Originally posted by Sovereign:

I find the new CPU requirements kinda eyebrow raising. The “recommended” went from a i7-4790 to a i7-12700?

I have a i7-8700k, a very solid processor when it was new, and really don’t want to go through the massive hassle of replacing it just to play at 1440p with high settings.

what happened? i still show it's i7-4790.

any clue what fps and settings they're using for this "recommend" build?

[Sovereign]

Originally posted by Blitz4:

Originally posted by Sovereign:

I find the new CPU requirements kinda eyebrow raising. The “recommended” went from a i7-4790 to a i7-12700?

I have a i7-8700k, a very solid processor when it was new, and really don’t want to go through the massive hassle of replacing it just to play at 1440p with high settings.

what happened? i still show it's i7-4790.

any clue what fps and settings they're using for this "recommend" build?

Go to Phantom Liberty's store page to see the new system requirements.

According to CDPR the new "recommended" is for 1080p 60fps on high settings, no RT:
https://assets-prd.ignimgs.com/2023/06/12/cyber-1686581561632.jpg

[Blitz4]

Originally posted by Sovereign:

Originally posted by Blitz4:

what happened? i still show it's i7-4790.

any clue what fps and settings they're using for this "recommend" build?

Go to Phantom Liberty's store page to see the new system requirements.

According to CDPR the new "recommended" is for 1080p 60fps on high settings, no RT:
https://assets-prd.ignimgs.com/2023/06/12/cyber-1686581561632.jpg

Thanks!

That made me smile seeing more than 16GB for a game. Finally!

I have a Popular LG 1080p @ 240 monitor, looking at a 4k monitor. Right now isn't it stated that Overdrive is stupid to use, that it's just pointless and won't give you better visuals for the sacrafice in performance?

The pic is really telling. It even lists settings to use :) We need to get that pic for current day cp2077 to answer the question.
Where did it come from? Where did you get it?


That pic creates so many questions and answers.

• Why isn't that pic in the store page for cp2077 or the dlc??
  
• The DLC is going to increase system requirements? I can't think of a DLC that did that. Like it'll have different requirements for the DLC vs the base game. So if I uncheck install DLC, does that mean I go back to the requirements of the base game?
  
• By not including the pic in the store you'll have people expecting their 1060 (via cp2077) or their 2060 (via the DLC) will work in RT.
  
  Right now I have a 2080 and can tell you it's borderline RT capable and shelved the game until I could turn it on. Thus the GFN mention earlier. People might've done the same. This DLC will probably cause most who shelved the game since release, it just seems proper to include that image in the store page as you want CDPR to be trusted by everyone again. They have some awesome other projects coming up too (w1,w4).
  
• We finally have a publisher telling us exactly what Minimum and Recommended means!
  
  They call it "Expected FPS", whatever that means, and Min as 30fps and Rec'd as 60fps.
  
  They don't call it "Minimum FPS", "Average FPS", "Median FPS", or any other scientific measurement. I believe that distinction is part of the issues I come across in forums for other games where people are slightly above or at the recommended specs and are having tons of issues. Heck it took me this long after release to comfortably play it cause I couldn't for the life of me hit 60fps w/ RT with a system well above the recommended.
  
  (They need to include that pic in the store!!)
  
• And finally about the CPU's in question.
  
  Phantom Liberty released: Sep 2023
  

  +---------------+----------+-------+---------+----------+----------+
  | cpu           | release  | cores | threads | speed    | max      |
  +---------------+----------+-------+---------+----------+----------+
  | i7-6700       | Jul 2015 | 4     | 8       | 3.4 GHz  | 4.0 GHz  |
  | i7-12700      | Jan 2022 | 8     | 20      | 2.1 GHz  | 4.9 GHz  |
  | i9-12900      | Jan 2022 | 8     | 16      | 2.40 GHz | 5.10 GHz |
  | i7-9700       | Apr 2019 | 8     | 8       | 3.0 GHz  | 4.7 GHz  |
  | Ryzen 5 1600  | Apr 2017 | 6     | 12      | 3.20 GHz | 3.6 GHz  |
  | Ryzen 7 7800x | Apr 2023 | 8     | 16      | 4.2 GHz  | 5.0 GHz  |
  | Ryzen 9 7900x | Sep 2022 | 12    | 24      | 4.7 GHz  | 5.6 GHz  |
  | Ryzen 5 5600  | Apr 2022 | 6     | 12      | 3.5 GHz  | 4.4 GHz  |
  +---------------+----------+-------+---------+----------+----------+
  

  
  Cyberpunk 2077 released: Dec 2020
  

  +---------------------+----------+-------+---------+---------+---------+
  | cpu                 | release  | cores | threads | speed   | max     |
  +---------------------+----------+-------+---------+---------+---------+
  | Intel Core i5-3570K | Apr 2012 | 4     | 4       | 3.8 GHz | 3.8 GHz |
  | Intel Core i7-4790  | May 2014 | 4     | 8       | 3.6 GHz | 4.0 GHz |
  | AMD FX-8310         | Sep 2014 | 8     | 8       | 3.4 GHz | 4.3 GHz |
  | AMD Ryzen 3 3200G   | Jul 2019 | 4     | 4       | 3.6 GHz | 4.0 GHz |
  +---------------------+----------+-------+---------+---------+---------+
  

I want to point out the biggest game last year. Elden Ring. Here's it's specs:

Minimum:
INTEL CORE I5-8400 or AMD RYZEN 3 3300X
NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1060 3 GB or AMD RADEON RX 580 4 GB
12 GB RAM

Recommended:
INTEL CORE I7-8700K or AMD RYZEN 5 3600X
NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1070 8 GB or AMD RADEON RX VEGA 56 8 GB
16 GB RAM

At release we questioned why. Then concluded since it's a Playstation 5 to PC port as are all From games, the Rec'd specs are almost identical to a PC that would perform closest to the PS5. What people were stuck on was how close the two cpu's were between the min & rec'd. Also, that was a 4-year old Intel and 2-year old AMD cpu at release and AMD fans felt it was unfair. If your Rec'd is a 2-year old cpu, you're going to exclude many people from hitting 60fps, I imagine most people understand that.


EDIT: wanted to clarify one question:
"So if I uncheck install DLC, does that mean I go back to the requirements of the base game?"

I can't imagine the answer is yes.
If the answer is no, on Steam at least, you can't prevent Steam from updating or pick the version of the game to use. That means that those that originally bought a game could get a mandatory update that prevents them from playing? There's no way that the cpu is going to be more demanding.. like I said there's just so many questions and this don't make sense as it was asked in the op and as this pic presents.

[Sovereign]

Originally posted by Blitz4:

The DLC is going to increase system requirements? I can't think of a DLC that did that. Like it'll have different requirements for the DLC vs the base game. So if I uncheck install DLC, does that mean I go back to the requirements of the base game?

No the 2.0 mega-patch is increasing the system requirements, not the DLC. So the store page will have to be updated when the patch comes out. The Patch is a free update that doesn't require the DLC but the DLC requires the patch, hence why it's store page already has the updated requirements by default.

[Zebedee]

Originally posted by Blitz4:

I can't imagine the answer is yes.
If the answer is no, on Steam at least, you can't prevent Steam from updating or pick the version of the game to use. That means that those that originally bought a game could get a mandatory update that prevents them from playing? There's no way that the cpu is going to be more demanding.. like I said there's just so many questions and this don't make sense as it was asked in the op and as this pic presents.

My bet would be on them using the beta branch functionality to allow people to play a 'classic' version of the game without the update. But they've not said yet so far as I know.

[TwinChops]

A bit yes, just because the game does runs rather sub-optimal to begin with. But who knows maybe its a miracle patch wich gives us also a better optimized game.

[Gamefever]

Cyberpunk 2077,
Phantom Liberty https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/news/48271/update-to-pc-system-requirements

So there is a website with official statement included with the specs expected for you to have.

It explains everything.

IT should be pinned to any serious discussion about the topic.

Now I am going to offer some of my thoughts about this.

HDD, a type of storage device that uses stacked records imagine a stack of disks and a long needle on the end of a pencil reads those disks. If you have seen a record player you know exactly what this looks like. Well that technology stopped being a real thing back in 1985.
So guys, SSD drives use electrons to transmit data but still use SATA ports.
However we can use NVME drives!
NVME drives are not using SATA ports, they use PCLE ports....DATA transmission is now about 30 times faster than what SATA allows.
On 5th generation of NVME current year.

But for some reason people seriously play modern games on HDD drives....
Man I get that there are pre-builds that build this sort of trash in but HDD was not meant to be a gaming drive after around like the 90's dude.

Also the idea that all graphics settings should work flawlessly on a machine that meets min spec is just dumbfounding to me, enough to laugh and cry. Just no, that has never ever worked.

This idea that the dev's should own every possible computer combination to test the game is crazy. How many PC's going back 10+ years should they own? When people can seriously show up using an HDD as primary game drive what else in their machine is super old and crusty?

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So, am I concerned about the system requirements?

Nope, my PC build exceeds all suggested specs.

Only concern is can I find enough interest in actually playing the game through with the new additional content.

[JACKSin]

It's usually 1080 on high at 60fps for recommended.

[ΛΞL™⚡]

I believe that most of the existing hardware that was capable of running the game at a frame rate of 30+ in medium or high settings before should still work. The updated requirements are likely focused on the hardware that has been tested and will receive support in the future. Unless you have hardware that is like over 8 years old and could barely meet the minimum requirements when the game was first released, there is no need to be overly concerned i think.

[JACKSin]

My Dad Elon bought me a 6090 through his connections at Nvidia and I get like 1000 fps and everything goes crazy with the Havok. They don't support that one either. I have to use a Tesla battery to power the machine.