Why do people compare Cyberpunk to The Witcher 3?

[Feurthan]

They're both completely different games. I decided to Google Search what people thought of Cyberpunk 2077 just to see people's opinions on the game, and some people compared it to The Witcher 3. Numerous people have. It just grinds my gears. I'm not a fan of The Witcher 3 myself, but I do love me some Cyberpunk 2077.

[fauxpas]

Made by the same people, allegedly had a bad launch, and supposedly follows the same story format.

No idea if the second and third things are true, but that's what I've heard people claim.

[Sovereign]

It's made by the same team, so of course people are comparing them. Witcher 3 being critically acclaimed is a big reason why there was so much attention and hype for this game in the first place.

[easy_going]

1. Level of production quality has dropped. Witcher 3 had controversial launch but one year and two expansions later it became a solid game. 3 years and zero expansions later Cyberpunk is playable at best.
2. Most if not everyone who preordered the game back in 2018/2019 did so due to "made by creators of The Witcher 3"
3. CDPR learned their lesson after The Witcher 2 (look up TW2 pre-launch and post-launch controversies), and made a huge leap in quality with The Witcher 3. Cyberpunk 2077 is a huge step back to somewhere in-between TW2 and TW3.

[Grimaldus]

Maybe because CDPR promised that CP2077 would be xx amount larger than
TW3+DLC's , but in the end , ended up being WAAAY shorter than TW3..
I played TW3+DLCs all 3 campaigns + tons of sidequests, but in the end of the
game (still ton's of sidequests) , my character still wasn't close enough max lvl
and there were still plenty of monsters i wasn't even close enough to be able to kill.

CP2077 was extremely short. I got to max lvl max streetcred in almost a day playing
and that was pretty much the end.

That's why , imo , CP2077 was a huge disappointment for me.

[orcaa]

Originally posted by easy_going:

1. Level of production quality has dropped. Witcher 3 had controversial launch but one year and two expansions later it became a solid game. 3 years and zero expansions later Cyberpunk is playable at best.
2. Most if not everyone who preordered the game back in 2018/2019 did so due to "made by creators of The Witcher 3"
3. CDPR learned their lesson after The Witcher 2 (look up TW2 pre-launch and post-launch controversies), and made a huge leap in quality with The Witcher 3. Cyberpunk 2077 is a huge step back to somewhere in-between TW2 and TW3.

On point number 1.
Just a FYI.......Cyperpunk 2077 was released dec.10 ( i think ) 2020. Since we are a few months short of december ( currently in july ) your statement of 3 years is inaccurate unless the PL expansion fails to launch by december.

On point number 3.
It is your " opinion" that Cyberpunk 2077 is a huge leap down in quality from The Witcher # 3. That is your opinion only. Other people may not agree with that and then this would be a debate.


Lets try and keep our facts straight shall we. Opinion is one thing and a fact is another.

[Zero McDol]

They have similar mechanics and concepts. Basically, if you played Cyberpunk 2077 first and then went back and played The Witcher 3, you'd likely notice similarities.

Just my two cents.

[Zebedee]

Because the structure and approach to the open world is identical. The starting idea to how to do Cyberpunk's game world was 'what if we made Night City like we made Novigrad, no loading screens and all, but supersized?'. (NB: the update changes may alter Cyberpunk's open world, some changes have already been made as the design philosophy shifted post-release.)

You have a central narrative (strong elements of detective stories) with side stories branching off it, and between those side stories one travels through a world which has the primary purpose of providing a setting. On release, Cyberpunk even copied TW3's use of trash loot as the surrogate for interaction with the environment, it also has the 'before/after' of clearing certain areas of 'evil' although TW3 also had a cut scene to make it clear what had happened.

Can go on and on. But it's the same concept of how to build a narrative ARPG at heart. Or was at release. They have already altered some things (eg junk loot largely removed and what is there guides through story moments rather than encourages being a goblin during them), and the update will make further changes. We wait to see how much of a shift in experience they can create.

Fwiw, Miles Tost has talked a great deal about the shared DNA in his live streams over the past few years. It's hardly surprising when so many of the lead devs on Cyberpunk were drawing direct inspiration from their work on TW3. I personally think the narrative structure of Cyberpunk was a huge improvement on TW3's, although done primarily to encourage more players to reach an ending, but it's an evolution on from TW3 rather than something entirely new.

[TwinChops]

Originally posted by fauxpas:

Made by the same people, allegedly had a bad launch, and supposedly follows the same story format.

No idea if the second and third things are true, but that's what I've heard people claim.

Oh my and what a terible launch it had lol About as bad as Cyberpunk on old gen consoles (cant say the same for PC on my end).
But i cant say anything about the Story format because after playing the first two witcher games i was ... bored i think is the right for that, and never played it really far.

[Zero McDol]

Originally posted by dazza0511:

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

They have similar mechanics and concepts. Basically, if you played Cyberpunk 2077 first and then went back and played The Witcher 3, you'd likely notice similarities.

Just my two cents.

Both games have naked girls. YEP.

Haha tru that :D

[VhagarTheLastOne]

Witcher 3 was masterpiece, Cyberpunk wasnt, CDPR is going backwards imho. Im still hopeful they get it right for Cyberpunk 2 though, hard to imagine Cyberpunk 2 is gonna be worse than Cyberpunk 1.

[Darkus56]

For me, I wanted and expected as much content as W3 had for CP2077. I like CP2077, but the lack of content when compared to W3 is really weird imo. Also within 1 year, W3 managed to release both Hearts of Stone and Blood&Wine along with a bunch of DLC content like quests, clothing etc. I know CP2077 is doing downloadable DLC as well but the thing is, why does it feel like W3 was more faster at releasing dlc with patches and more bug free when compared to Cyberpunk 2077. It's been 2 and a half years and Phantom Liberty's expansion isn't out, not to mention it's probably the only major expansion.

I mean Cyberpunk 2077 was cancelled in 2012 (I could be wrong but I remember there being talk about the project being scrapped only until after W3 made a big hit), so I'll assume they started working on it in 2016 after W3 B&W came out. So when you think about it Cyberpunk 2077 still had more time to be worked on then Witcher 3 (because Witcher 3's production started right after they finished Witcher 2) and still somehow managed to be bugged and have alot of cut content at launch. I know there were alot of threats made against CDPR for not releasing Cyberpunk yet from people who preordered the game super early, which is really stupid.

One last thing. Cyberpunk 2077 is very short in terms of variations of missions. Witcher 3 I still haven't found all the details and in each playthrough I find something new that I didn't know or discovered before. As for CP2077, It's very easy to know what you missed or didn't discover.

Again I like CP2077 despite the bugs it had and still enjoyed it, but I have to say Witcher 3 is superior in terms of content offered.

[Zebedee]

From what we think we know, the original plan for Cyberpunk was going to be the same as for TW3. TW3 was knocked into shape post-release and the expansions could just be added on. But... Cyberpunk required the game engine to be refactored not only to fix the release problems but also to have a stable base on which to add an expansion. It also meant having to work to a stable end point for older hardware before withdrawing support so 10 year old consoles and GPUs weren't dictating what was possible to change/add.

[fauxpas]

Besides, let's be brutally honest for a moment ... Cyberpunk is about being pretty first and everything else second.

[Ihateeverybody]

Cyberpunk isn't a world I can live in (neither was Witcher 3). Its more like a Friends house who only invites you over to help them move furnature. Same with most bioware games (Dragon Age, Mass Effect)

I want worlds I can live in. Skyrim has proven the best. Daggerfall was Great. Fallout 4 was OK. Fallout 76 (THE WORLD) was better.

Ultima 7 pt 2 Serpent Isles (Just that one DLC to the past) was what started that feeling in me.

[Titan Awaken]

Originally posted by fauxpas:

Besides, let's be brutally honest for a moment ... Cyberpunk is about being pretty first and everything else second.

No.

But if you really wanted to make a generalization like that, then I guess you could say: “CDPR have always put story first and everything else second.”