Cyberpunk or Detroit: Become Human?

[Faiza, Star Made Knight]

One of my favorite things about Cyberpunk 2077 is how realistic the facial expressions and convincing the voice acting is (not V). I read that all of the facial expressions were matched/lip synced to the voices with AI, but I can't recall where I read that so it may not be true.

Anyway, arguably character models, especially faces, look so much better in Detroit: Being Human, but something about the dialogue and the facial expressions don't match up (for humans and androids) the way they do in Cyberpunk, and I feel like it takes away from the poignancy. I have some other gripes with the controls, but I really feel like the Cyberpunk team did a better job at making characters feel real.

Curious if anyone else played both games and feel the same way?

[felmari]

i have both. they are very different games.

how i would classify detroit is a new spin and age in the genre of adventure games. you also take on many roles each one correlating to the larger story arc. it is a very interesting way of story telling.

i felt the expressions and emotional responses was pretty good but it has been a while since i played detroit so a good comparision is not fresh.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Both games have characters that are motion captured from real people.
To be honest I have actually seen better motion capture then both of these in Life is Strange; True Colors. It`s the small subtle movements and body language reacting to the conversation tone that makes it extra realistic there, Plus they got good voice actors as well, especially main character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo95r8yTbyI

[Faiza, Star Made Knight]

Originally posted by felmari:

i have both. they are very different games.

how i would classify detroit is a new spin and age in the genre of adventure games. you also take on many roles each one correlating to the larger story arc. it is a very interesting way of story telling.

i felt the expressions and emotional responses was pretty good but it has been a while since i played detroit so a good comparision is not fresh.

Well, yes they are different games - but the character animations are similar, which is what I was comparing. If you do decide to boot up Detroit I'd be interested in hearing what you think of comparing, like, Alice's (from Detroit) expressions with Judy's (from Cyberpunk).

Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:

Both games have characters that are motion captured from real people.
To be honest I have actually seen better motion capture then both of these in Life is Strange; True Colors. It`s the small subtle movements and body language reacting to the conversation tone that makes it extra realistic there, Plus they got good voice actors as well, especially main character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo95r8yTbyI

I've tried to play Life is Strange so many times and I always end up losing interest in the same place. I don't recall being wowed by the animations in the 1st one, but the video you linked is definitely an improvement on what I remember. I still prefer Cyberpunk's style, but your video is still much better than Detroit.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Originally posted by Faiza, Star Made Knight:

I've tried to play Life is Strange so many times and I always end up losing interest in the same place. I don't recall being wowed by the animations in the 1st one, but the video you linked is definitely an improvement on what I remember. I still prefer Cyberpunk's style, but your video is still much better than Detroit.

First one was released 7 years ago and remaster didn`t improve it much, kinda made it even worse and I still prefer original.
True Colors was released last year and you can see the difference in tech.

[Mehrshad]

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[Taki kolega]

Lips always sync to what a character says, so for every language there is a different animation. It was showcased on CP2077 YT channel before the release. And indeed it works. I haven't heard of any other game that did it, and it really does feel convincing. Not sure if this is the best RPG but In my opinion the characters, their acting and animations are the most alive of all RPGs ever. Nothing comes close.
I too played Detroit, even twice, and never felt the connection to the characters as i feel it in CP2077. Not even close

[felmari]

many iterations have different origins. english has a premium of being a default language. try some iterations that have voice overs where the oeiginal is not of your original language.

[Faiza, Star Made Knight]

Originally posted by TechSpecialist:

Here...
https://youtu.be/uFIxiz0jwRE

Ah, so what I read was true! This is precisely what I meant.

Originally posted by Taki kolega:

Lips always sync to what a character says, so for every language there is a different animation. It was showcased on CP2077 YT channel before the release. And indeed it works. I haven't heard of any other game that did it, and it really does feel convincing. Not sure if this is the best RPG but In my opinion the characters, their acting and animations are the most alive of all RPGs ever. Nothing comes close.
I too played Detroit, even twice, and never felt the connection to the characters as i feel it in CP2077. Not even close

That's so sad, because I feel like Detroit is set up so that you will feel that connection, but it just doesn't spark. I want to finish it because I want to see the story endings, but I kind of wish CD Project Red had developed it instead lol

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Detroit: Become Human was originally launched for PS4 at 2019 and later ported to PC so it`s understandably not as advanced tech as Cyberpunk.

[stingray87]

The engine is in the intro. (Jali)
https://www.dgp.toronto.edu/~karan/jali/

[5ean5ean]

Cyberpunk aninations are........decent. it gets the job done. But there is a another league which I feel Playsation has mastered.

Ragnarok, Horizon, Death Stranding, Ghost Of Tsushima, Last of Us, Spiderman, etc.... Thats the mountain top.

What makes Cyberpunk special is the detail of the open world, I wouldnt even try to compair facial animations to other games...thats not thier thing.